Pope Benedict XVI resigns

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Anyone else wondering if we're hearing the full story on this?

First time a Pope stepped down in 598 years, and he also happens to be one of those most liberal Popes ever. I wonder of the College of Cardinals are forcing/pressuring him to resign.

Thoughts?

 

[redandguilty]

Liberal? "God's Rottweiler"? Unless you are strictly talking about economics, in which case, most of the hierarchy is liberal.

I don't think there's a secret motive here. He didn't want the job in the first place.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I think the next Pope should have a beard.

Specifically, I think the next Pope should have beautiful flowing locks and a beard during the winter (grey is OK; most Papal age fuckers are pretty old and grey, like me) and then shave his face-and his head, for that matter-during the summer.

And somewhere between in the spring in the fall.

As far as "God's Rotweiller's" I don't know; I think more like German Shepherds, like the kind of dogs I was walking when I was out and met that actor who plays Dinozzo.

 

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Liberal? "God's Rottweiler"? Unless you are strictly talking about economics, in which case, most of the hierarchy is liberal.

I don't think there's a secret motive here. He didn't want the job in the first place.

Sorry, for some reason typing that up my mind did the old "switch-a-roo" on me, I meant conservative. Specifically how many thought he was leading Catholics back into the dark ages, and away from modernization.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/11/opinion/stanley-pope-resigns/index.html?hpt=hp_c1



"Progressives felt that he was promoting a form of religion that belonged to a different century, that his firm belief in traditional moral theology threatened to distance the church from the people it was supposed to serve."

I dunno how I ended up typing liberal, maybe the politics board just has me trained to do it.

 

[Michchamp]

they should go with a cool, hip, young priest... like one who plays guitar and drives a Jeep Wrangler... and doesn't molest little kids. And wasn't a Nazi. And doesn't look like the Emperor in Star Wars.

Personally, this wouldn't make me believe in the tenets of their religion again, go to church, or stop mocking the church as an anachronistic foolish opiate of the masses, but it would be better than before, at least. Or probably not.

 

[Michchamp]

they should go with a cool, hip, young priest... like one who plays guitar and drives a Jeep Wrangler... and doesn't molest little kids. And wasn't a Nazi. And doesn't look like the Emperor in Star Wars.

Personally, this wouldn't make me believe in the tenets of their religion again, go to church, or stop mocking the church as an anachronistic foolish opiate of the masses, but it would be better than before, at least. Or probably not.

 

[Michchamp]

oops. wrong pope.

 

[Michchamp]

 

[redandguilty]

they should go with a cool, hip, young priest... like one who plays guitar and drives a Jeep Wrangler... and doesn't molest little kids. And wasn't a Nazi. And doesn't look like the Emperor in Star Wars.

Personally, this wouldn't make me believe in the tenets of their religion again, go to church, or stop mocking the church as an anachronistic foolish opiate of the masses, but it would be better than before, at least. Or probably not.

The youngest guy with much of a shot (according to paddy power) is the 64-year old from Ghana. They're also giving 666/1 odds on Richard Dawkins.

 

[redandguilty]

Sorry, for some reason typing that up my mind did the old "switch-a-roo" on me, I meant conservative. Specifically how many thought he was leading Catholics back into the dark ages, and away from modernization.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/11/opinion/stanley-pope-resigns/index.html?hpt=hp_c1



"Progressives felt that he was promoting a form of religion that belonged to a different century, that his firm belief in traditional moral theology threatened to distance the church from the people it was supposed to serve."

I dunno how I ended up typing liberal, maybe the politics board just has me trained to do it.

Ah. Makes more sense. I still don't think there's any funny business behind the scenes, pushing him to resign. I think that mostly because he appointed just over half the cardinals, so he should have plenty of support.

 

[tinselwolverine]

The youngest guy with much of a shot (according to paddy power) is the 64-year old from Ghana. They're also giving 666/1 odds on Richard Dawkins.

In The God Delusion, Dawkins contends that a supernatural creator almost certainly does not exist and that belief in a personal god qualifies as a delusion, which he defines as a persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence.

About 6 years ago I started shopping out a screenplay I wrote that I titled My Personal Mexican Virgin.

It was about an old curmudgeon fucker who befriended a teenage girl of Hispanic descent living in his neighborhood. He watches over her as she grows up, and in the end he dies.

I even pictured Clint Eastwood as the lead character.

What are ya gonna do, right?

 

[redandguilty]

Marc Ouellet - 68, Canada, 3:1 odds, JPII appointment, said being pope "would be a nightmare", thinks people interpreted Vatican II too liberally

Peter Turkson - 64, Ghana, 7:2 odds, JPII appointment, I've seen some flipping out/conspiracy theory over a proposal he advocated to reform global banking, I can't figure out if he's relatively conservative or liberal though

Angelo Scola - 71, Italy, 4:1 odds, JPII appointment, probably conservative - in the leaked document thing that happened in 2011, one letter urged Pope Benedict to pick Scola to head some conservative group instead of 2 centrist/liberal candidates.

Tarcisio Bertone - 78, Italy, 6:1 odds, JPII appointment... controversy with this one, including some Secret of Fatima stuff that Tinsel could use to make his Pollyanna story look like a Dan Brown story on the surface.

Francis Arinze - 80, Nigeria, 6:1 odds, JPII appointment. Youngest Bishop in the world in 1965. Adviser to JPII. Produced over 1,700 TV shows going through JPII's writings. Also conservative.

 

[redandguilty]

In The God Delusion, Dawkins contends that a supernatural creator almost certainly does not exist and that belief in a personal god qualifies as a delusion, which he defines as a persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence.

About 6 years ago I started shopping out a screenplay I wrote that I titled My Personal Mexican Virgin.

It was about an old curmudgeon fucker who befriended a teenage girl of Hispanic descent living in his neighborhood. He watches over her as she grows up, and in the end he dies.

I even pictured Clint Eastwood as the lead character.

What are ya gonna do, right?

Wow. You were on to something there. Great flick.

 

[tinselwolverine]

It was when I was working in Public Relations at the Los Angeles Daily News with Roy Campanella's daughter (NAME DROP ALERT). A friend/co-workier started talking to me about the Virgin of Guadalupe, how that icon was not only the Holy Mother of God (assuming Chriistianity here for just a minute) but also a specifically iconic figure to Mexican people - their own personal Virgin.

I didn't wanna argue with her, but a thought flashed through my mind "No-Mexicans do NOT have their own personal Virgin..."

But I looked it up on the internet (because everything on the internet is true, just like I'm a French model - bon jour) and as it turns, the Virgin of Guadalupe also embodies some Aztec or Mayan Goddess, in addition to being the Virgin Mother of God.

So that's how I came up with the title.

Now, the story I wrote-well, it's just Pollyanna, or Pinochio, or the re-telling of how the curmudgeoney oldster's heart melts for the spunky youngster-just like Gran Torino was.

 

[zyxt9]

not sure why, but when i saw that i instantly thought of the character Rene Bellog from Raiders of the Lost Ark

 

[tinselwolverine]

not sure why, but when i saw that i instantly thought of the character Rene Bellog from Raiders of the Lost Ark

Yeah, Raiders of the Lost Ark, that was another concept of mine somebody ripped off.

 

[Michchamp]

Marc Ouellet - 68, Canada, 3:1 odds, JPII appointment, said being pope "would be a nightmare", thinks people interpreted Vatican II too liberally

Peter Turkson - 64, Ghana, 7:2 odds, JPII appointment, I've seen some flipping out/conspiracy theory over a proposal he advocated to reform global banking, I can't figure out if he's relatively conservative or liberal though

Angelo Scola - 71, Italy, 4:1 odds, JPII appointment, probably conservative - in the leaked document thing that happened in 2011, one letter urged Pope Benedict to pick Scola to head some conservative group instead of 2 centrist/liberal candidates.

Tarcisio Bertone - 78, Italy, 6:1 odds, JPII appointment... controversy with this one, including some Secret of Fatima stuff that Tinsel could use to make his Pollyanna story look like a Dan Brown story on the surface.

given who is voting... guessing it will be the younger Italian guy, without any goofy conspiracy/prophecy stuff on his resume.

any chance they'll accidentally nominate a guy named Peter, fulfilling biblical prophecy and bringing about the apocalypse and second coming of christ?

 

[redandguilty]

given who is voting... guessing it will be the younger Italian guy, without any goofy conspiracy/prophecy stuff on his resume.

any chance they'll accidentally nominate a guy named Peter, fulfilling biblical prophecy and bringing about the apocalypse and second coming of christ?

Yeah. A 7:2 chance for Peter Turkson. There's also a longshot Peter from Hungary.


Wait. Are we talking about the chance they'll name a Peter or the chance they'll trigger the apocalypse?

Double wait...or are we talking about the chances the nomination will be made "accidentally"?

 

[Michchamp]

I didn't notice the Turkson guy was named Peter. damn, that would be crazy.

I was talking about the chance they'll name peter, triggering the apocalypse. it would definitely happen, right?

Looks like the College of Cardinals is currently only 17% italian, so I guess they can't completely just carry the day.

Remember that episode of The Simpson's when Moe picks a designated driver from the group by seeing who draws the rotten pickled egg from the jar, and says it's the same way they choose the pope? great episode (spoiler alert: Barney draws the rotten egg)

 

[tinselwolverine]

Yeah. A 7:2 chance for Peter Turkson. There's also a longshot Peter from Hungary.


Wait. Are we talking about the chance they'll name a Peter or the chance they'll trigger the apocalypse?

What about Pete Rose?

He can't get into the baseball Hall of Fame; but that doesn't mean he's banned from being the Pope.