Raines or Gwynn

[tycobb420]

Brian Kenny did an interesting comparison. I thought Raines stood up quite well to Gwynn even though Tony was first Ballot HOF and Raines is still waiting.

 

[kalinecountry]

Brian Kenny did an interesting comparison. I thought Raines stood up quite well to Gwynn even though Tony was first Ballot HOF and Raines is still waiting.

Brian Kenny is a great baseball mind, and also unbiased to any one player or team. Sure seems that Raines is dealing with what Trammell has to a degree....Tram compared to ozzie's backflips and Ripken, Yount, early on.
Raines second fiddle to Rickey Henderson.

 

[kalinecountry]

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20042447&c_id=mlb
Kenny discusses Raines.

 

[tycobb420]

KalineCountry[/color]]http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20042447&c_id=mlb
Kenny discusses Raines.

Heyman's argument of peak vs. good for a long time is interesting.

 

[tycobb420]

Captain Donut: 3 Rock: 1

 

[thehippo73]

While I would take Gwynn hands down, I think Raines deserves serious HOF consideration. I think he is one of the guys who deserve to be in but may not get in until the veterans committee gets him.

Don Mattingly, Dale Murphy, Alan Trammell and Tim Raines all played just before the steroid era exploded. I think this hurts all their chances with how their numbers look vs the roiders.

 

[hellifino]

both had their positives, what they contributed to their team, at the time.