should linehan go?

[kingofdetroit57]

These losses are a result of a bad OL and poor special teams play more than anything else. Stafford hasn't been great the last few games, but he's been far from horrible. Not really sure what else people expect from an offense when we've got Swiss cheese protection and 3rd/4th string RBs as starters.

5 yards per completion?

Yeah, he's been All World. lmfao

When did I say he was All World?

How deep are the WRs gonna get when you've got 2sec to get a pass off? Beyond that, we've got no run game for the defense to respect, so they can sit back and give up short passes all day long while doubling the only guy who can effectively stretch the field.

 

[tonyballs]

These losses are a result of a bad OL and poor special teams play more than anything else. Stafford hasn't been great the last few games, but he's been far from horrible. Not really sure what else people expect from an offense when we've got Swiss cheese protection and 3rd/4th string RBs as starters.

Stafford has played horrific the last 2 games. Open your fn eyes, bud...

 

[Mitchrapp]

Horrific were those Raiders QB's. He was just bad.

 

[mhughes0021]

Mitch[/color]]Horrific were those Raiders QB's. He was just bad.

the problem with that logic ofcourse being that Palmer has been on that team all of 4 days....if stafford is anything like a qb that has been on the team for 4 days then were in big trouble.

 

[Mitchrapp]

He's a 23 year QB that has like 20 games. Are you expecting him to be Peyton Manning?

 

[motown1958]

I will say this. The oline has been horrendous. Stafford hasnt been accurate and receivers have either not been getting open or dropping the ball. The special teams is abysmal. Watching this team this season has been stressful because its obvious they have talent they just arent executing. Its time they get their shit together.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Good teams always don't win right away or have stretches of bad play. That's football, the Chargers have had many bad starts to seasons before they pull it together. Detroit has a good team, I believe that. Just a couple of bad games. I still think most of us are upset because of the way we got to 5-2. If we lost two then won 5 we'd be thrilled.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

These losses are a result of a bad OL and poor special teams play more than anything else. Stafford hasn't been great the last few games, but he's been far from horrible. Not really sure what else people expect from an offense when we've got Swiss cheese protection and 3rd/4th string RBs as starters.

Stafford has played horrific the last 2 games. Open your fn eyes, bud...

He had a 293yd/2td/0int/86.5qbrtg against SF. That's a very solid line and FAR from horrific. Against ATL he went 183yd/1td/0int/75.4qbrtg... not good, but not what I'd call horrific either. He couldn't get much going, but he wasn't costing us the game either. He was actually worse against Dallas IMHO.

Horrific is Tebow in Q1-3 or Palmer in his game.

He's missed passes, played slow in spots he should be hurrying and hurrying in spots he should be playing slow, and generally hasn't looked as sharp as he did in games 1-3 and 5. I'll readily admit that, but if you think he's horrid you need to learn the game. He's not gonna look like Brees/Rodgers/Brady consistently. He's got too few games under his belt to have that be the expectation right now.

 

[lions2011]

Stafford has played horrific the last 2 games. Open your fn eyes, bud...

He had a 293yd/2td/0int/86.5qbrtg against SF. That's a very solid line and FAR from horrific. Against ATL he went 183yd/1td/0int/75.4qbrtg... not good, but not what I'd call horrific either. He couldn't get much going, but he wasn't costing us the game either. He was actually worse against Dallas IMHO.

Horrific is Tebow in Q1-3 or Palmer in his game.

He's missed passes, played slow in spots he should be hurrying and hurrying in spots he should be playing slow, and generally hasn't looked as sharp as he did in games 1-3 and 5. I'll readily admit that, but if you think he's horrid you need to learn the game. He's not gonna look like Brees/Rodgers/Brady consistently. He's got too few games under his belt to have that be the expectation right now.

how is Palmer getting a horrific grade ?? the guy was in town for 3 days...saw the practice field for 2 and got thrown into a game where the Raiders were down big , had to pass and the Chiefs were just rushing the QB.

get your head outta your ass , of course it was a disaster the Raiders had no buisness even playing him.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Granted its not a game where you can make a judgement since it was 3 days and hasn't played since last year. We all know that but it was still a horrible game.

 

[murktastic]

how can u complain with a 95 passer rating and a 4 to 1 interception ratio from matt.. we just need new tackles and a new center and a new right guard haha

 

[mhughes0021]

Mitch[/color]]Good teams always don't win right away or have stretches of bad play. That's football, the Chargers have had many bad starts to seasons before they pull it together. Detroit has a good team, I believe that. Just a couple of bad games. I still think most of us are upset because of the way we got to 5-2. If we lost two then won 5 we'd be thrilled.

I'm disappointed cause those were 2 very beatable teams, we were at home, and we played like crap. "pulling it together" in the second half of the season is going to be awfully difficult with our schedule.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

Mitch[/color]]Granted its not a game where you can make a judgement since it was 3 days and hasn't played since last year. We all know that but it was still a horrible game.

This was my point, Slick. I thought it was ridiculous for them to play Palmer too and expected him to be terrible in those circumstances. I was simply using it as an example of horrific play and how I thought Stafford was far from that.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

This board makes me laugh. People want things to be black and white, but they are rarely that way. Stafford isn't the best or the worst, he's somewhere in between. Yet, if you take a stance like that, you'll get both sides attacking and claiming that you are too positive or negative. It's called being realistic. We're a 5-2 team with a QB who has looked really good and pretty bad at times. It's what I expected, but I'm not gonna tell you it's happened how I expected.

I don't think Stafford or Linehan have single handedly lost or won us anything so far. I don't think either are anywhere close to the top of the list of our problems either. The biggest things I've seen these last two games were the absence of an NFL quality run game, poor special teams play, poor OL play, and schizophrenic QB and DL play.

Those who expected the undefeated streak and the 100+ QB ratings to continue every week aren't being realistic. This is about a 10-6 in my eyes and after a quick start where we won a few we probably shouldn't have, water is finding that level and we've dropped a couple that maybe we shouldn't have.

 

[tonyballs]

Stafford has played horrific the last 2 games. Open your fn eyes, bud...

He had a 293yd/2td/0int/86.5qbrtg against SF. That's a very solid line and FAR from horrific. Against ATL he went 183yd/1td/0int/75.4qbrtg... not good, but not what I'd call horrific either. He couldn't get much going, but he wasn't costing us the game either. He was actually worse against Dallas IMHO.

Horrific is Tebow in Q1-3 or Palmer in his game.

He's missed passes, played slow in spots he should be hurrying and hurrying in spots he should be playing slow, and generally hasn't looked as sharp as he did in games 1-3 and 5. I'll readily admit that, but if you think he's horrid you need to learn the game. He's not gonna look like Brees/Rodgers/Brady consistently. He's got too few games under his belt to have that be the expectation right now.

Learn the game??? Sure, bud!!! He's been terrible the last 2 games. Missing throws big time and not using his feet enough.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

He had a 293yd/2td/0int/86.5qbrtg against SF. That's a very solid line and FAR from horrific. Against ATL he went 183yd/1td/0int/75.4qbrtg... not good, but not what I'd call horrific either. He couldn't get much going, but he wasn't costing us the game either. He was actually worse against Dallas IMHO.

Horrific is Tebow in Q1-3 or Palmer in his game.

He's missed passes, played slow in spots he should be hurrying and hurrying in spots he should be playing slow, and generally hasn't looked as sharp as he did in games 1-3 and 5. I'll readily admit that, but if you think he's horrid you need to learn the game. He's not gonna look like Brees/Rodgers/Brady consistently. He's got too few games under his belt to have that be the expectation right now.

Learn the game??? Sure, bud!!! He's been terrible the last 2 games. Missing throws big time and not using his feet enough.

I'm not disputing that he's looked bad in spots and his performance has regressed from early in the year (it pretty much had to given how well he played in the first few games). To say that a 293yd/2td/0int/86.5qbrtg against SF is a terrible performance is beyond absurd though. That's no different than judging a hitter on a couple at bats. You've got to look at the overall body of work.

The biggest thing about the SF game that pissed me off was the 2min offense at the end of the game. Stafford looked completely unprepared for whatever reason. I'm not sure if that was on him, Linehan or some of each, but it was horseshit.

That aside though, we probably wouldn't have even been in that spot had our special teams play not given up ridiculous returns and shit field position all damn day.

Whatever though... it is what it is. You think he's been trash, others think he's been the second coming of Joe Fuckin' Montana, I think he's somewhere between the two and has shown flashes of both.

 

[themadbomber]

Nobody thinks Stafford is horrific. But his last 2 games, have been. And to levy blame on anybody other than him is just lookin at it through rose colored glasses. Our Oline hasn't been dominant, but Stafford hasn't done them any favors either.

We don't have top 10 Tackles. But I don't think that's a surprise to anybody, least of all Stafford. So having full on knowledge of that fact, you'd think he'd learn how to help them out (Step into the pocket)

The last 2 weeks, he hasn't shown the pocket pressence you look for of an NFL QB.

Nobody is asking him to be Aaron Rodgers, but I want something between Rodgers and Joey Harrington.

 

[bunglesnacks]

I can't stand the way linehan starts games. he's way too conservative. anytime the lions get in a tough down and distance it seems like a screen is his go to play. they wait until the 2nd half to go no huddle. Stafford doesn't have Brady like time in the pocket though so I'm not sure what the gameplan should be.

I have to say keep linehan because culpepper didn't fare to well without him and I'm not ready to see if Stafford is able to adapt to a new system just yet.

 

[thehippo73]

No one fear Morris in the running game. Linen has no choice but to be one dimensional. The opposing team knows this. Our Oline is playing terrible. Best scared teams because of his big play ability.

 

[jde7676]

If we make the stop in the 49ers game, we aren't even having this conversation. With or without a win against ATL. Things feel bad right now and they are. But the world isn't over, the team is exceeding expectations and has potential moving forward to be a good team in the future. If Stafford continues this downward trend the rest of the season then I'll start to panic some.