The Yale teacher with that Halloween costume email resigned

[Gulo Blue]

Link to story: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/yale-teacher-resigns-over-halloween-costume-controversy/

A while back this video (link) was posted here, where some student are complaining to a professor about how they think college should be a safe space. His wife, also a professor, wrote a letter in response to another letter about Halloween costumes. The 1st letter asked student not to wear racist costumes. This professor wrote a response with something about college being a place where student are free to screw up being a part of the free exchange of ideas in college. Looks like she's had enough. Yale says they'd welcome her back to teach anytime.

I haven't seen a statement explaining exactly why she is resigning in her own words...but this is crazy. It feels like the next generation has a very different set of values from us old farts.

 

[Monster]

Link to story: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/yale-teacher-resigns-over-halloween-costume-controversy/

A while back this video (link) was posted here, where some student are complaining to a professor about how they think college should be a safe space. His wife, also a professor, wrote a letter in response to another letter about Halloween costumes. The 1st letter asked student not to wear racist costumes. This professor wrote a response with something about college being a place where student are free to screw up being a part of the free exchange of ideas in college. Looks like she's had enough. Yale says they'd welcome her back to teach anytime.

I haven't seen a statement explaining exactly why she is resigning in her own words...but this is crazy. It feels like the next generation has a very different set of values from us old farts.

It's the PC movement. The idea that we should be protected from criticism and debate because it might "trigger" us. Fuck that. Grow the fuck up. I don't want this country's future to be in the hand of weak children who can't stand on their own two feet.

Could you imagine what MLK Jr. would say to these kids? A man who was beaten, jailed, and spit on by people who genuinely hated him. They are nothing but spoiled kids who actually believe they are being oppressed.

 

[Monster]

"Safe spaces" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC_S4AOsb2Y

College kids are out of control. This new form of liberalism has to go.

 

[Michchamp]

"Safe spaces" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC_S4AOsb2Y

College kids are out of control. This new form of liberalism has to go.

it's not really a "new form of liberalism."

these recent protests were 100% bullshit, and I'm surprised so many people were willing to accept the claims of harassment at face value, without seeking to corroborate them.

there's a big difference between (allegedly) "feeling unsafe" on college campuses and being a poor black kid gunned down in the street, or clobbered for no reason by racist cops, or railroaded into jailtime and excessive fines by the "criminal justice system." it's a lot easier to protest college administrators than militarized cops just looking for an excuse to blow you away with a rifle while sitting atop a goddamn tank, knowing theyre untouchable.

It seems like these campus brouhahas are dying down, anyway. their most notable success, getting the Mizzou president canned, only happened because everyone else on campus already hated him and wanted him gone. they haven't accomplished anything else beyond getting in the news, because there's really nothing else for them to do. it's impossible to sustain exaggerated outrage for very long. like crying wolf, everyone starts to realize there's no story there and ignores you.

 

[Gulo Blue]

it's not really a "new form of liberalism."

these recent protests were 100% bullshit, and I'm surprised so many people were willing to accept the claims of harassment at face value, without seeking to corroborate them.

there's a big difference between (allegedly) "feeling unsafe" on college campuses and being a poor black kid gunned down in the street, or clobbered for no reason by racist cops, or railroaded into jailtime and excessive fines by the "criminal justice system." it's a lot easier to protest college administrators than militarized cops just looking for an excuse to blow you away with a rifle while sitting atop a goddamn tank, knowing theyre untouchable.

It seems like these campus brouhahas are dying down, anyway. their most notable success, getting the Mizzou president canned, only happened because everyone else on campus already hated him and wanted him gone. they haven't accomplished anything else beyond getting in the news, because there's really nothing else for them to do. it's impossible to sustain exaggerated outrage for very long. like crying wolf, everyone starts to realize there's no story there and ignores you.

Between the Mizzou president and this, I feel like it's on the rise, not the decline.

...but yes, there's something Occupy Wall Street-y about this. "When do we want it?" "NOW!" "What do we want?" "...?"

 

[Monster]

Generation P has followed Generation X.

The P is for Pussy if you didn't know.

 

[Michchamp]

Between the Mizzou president and this, I feel like it's on the rise, not the decline.

...but yes, there's something Occupy Wall Street-y about this. "When do we want it?" "NOW!" "What do we want?" "...?"

i don't understand how they are similar. you are aware of the conduct of the banks, Fed, SEC, and Treasury leading up to, and after the real estate collapse and TARP bailouts, no?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Generation P has followed Generation X.

The P is for Pussy if you didn't know.

I got it.

Technically Millennials followed Gen ex though.

Generation P can be next.

 

[Michchamp]

I got it.

Technically Millennials followed Gen ex though.

Generation P can be next.

kids in my day were TOUGH. we had to ride to school in minivans that didnt have DVD players in them. and our videogames had 8 bit graphics. you had to use your imagination to think of what things REALLY looked like. and we only graduated from college with five figures of student loan debt, not six figures.

 

[Gulo Blue]

i don't understand how they are similar. you are aware of the conduct of the banks, Fed, SEC, and Treasury leading up to, and after the real estate collapse and TARP bailouts, no?

They are similar in that they make a lot of noise, but it is not clear that they have any idea what they want.

Yes, I know there are real financial industry problems, just like racism and sexism are real and significant. And Occupy Wall Street and this Safe Space thing approach these issues with similar clarity of vision.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I got it.

Technically Millennials followed Gen ex though.

Generation P can be next.

Those are the Founders.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Those are the Founders.

Who made MTV the boss of all naming?

I like Monster's name better.

I like generation pussy.

 

[Monster]

Who made MTV the boss of all naming?

I like Monster's name better.

I like generation pussy.

That credit goes to a youtuber called Atheism Is Unstoppable. He rails against the regressive left and calls the current generation of young people Generation P.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Who made MTV the boss of all naming?

I like Monster's name better.

I like generation pussy.

And why would we call young kids founders anyway?

Unless we mean they found a way to skate through life and get what they want by being a bunch of pussies.

 

[Gulo Blue]

And why would we call young kids founders anyway?

Unless we mean they found a way to skate through life and get what they want by being a bunch of pussies.

Unless someone at MTV got a message from someone living in the future. Maybe that name will make perfect sense in 60 years.

In 1920, most people would probably look at kids with their bottled Coca Cola and their moving pictures and say "Greatest Generation, my ass."

 

[Michchamp]

They are similar in that they make a lot of noise, but it is not clear that they have any idea what they want.

Yes, I know there are real financial industry problems, just like racism and sexism are real and significant. And Occupy Wall Street and this Safe Space thing approach these issues with similar clarity of vision.

link.

 

[Gulo Blue]

link.

From your link:

David Graeber, an OWS participant, has also criticized the idea that the movement must have clearly defined demands, arguing that it would be a counterproductive legitimization of the very power structures the movement seeks to challenge.[77] In a similar vein, scholar and activist Judith Butler has challenged the assertion that OWS should make concrete demands: "So what are the demands that all these people are making? Either they say there are no demands and that leaves your critics confused. Or they say that demands for social equality, that demands for economic justice are impossible demands and impossible demands are just not practical. But we disagree. If hope is an impossible demand then we demand the impossible."[78] Regardless, activists favor a new system that fulfills what is perceived as the original promise of democracy to bring power to all the people.[79]

 

[Michchamp]

From your link:

whoa... didn't you just criticize spartanshithead for selective reading..?

Granted, OWS was not an organized political party with a platform, or written compact, but you're being disingenuous if you feel they had no goals.

 

[Gulo Blue]

whoa... didn't you just criticize spartanshithead for selective reading..?

Granted, OWS was not an organized political party with a platform, or written compact, but you're being disingenuous if you feel they had no goals.

Sure. Just too many of them to form a coherent message. There was a list of demands with the Yale group too.