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Wasn't 100% on the Hillary Wagon...

Nothing like a group of angry white men cheering an angry, scared man on while he invents a bunch of gates lol.
 
It'll probably be Clinton-Bush

Doesn't that just excite everyone?
 
It'll probably be Clinton-Bush

Doesn't that just excite everyone?

Not at all. But it'd be better than O'Malley-Cruz/Huckubee/Paul. You could write it in stone that the GOP would win and imo those repubs make jeb bush look like nelson mandela.
 
Not at all. But it'd be better than O'Malley-Cruz/Huckubee/Paul. You could write it in stone that the GOP would win and imo those repubs make jeb bush look like nelson mandela.

That primary is going to be entertaining.

They have to pick someone that somehow appeals to both the Republican party and the general population. So many factions will be fighting each other

Religious (Far) Right
Tea Party
Libertarian
Establishment

All of them unelectable except the last group.
 
Not at all. But it'd be better than O'Malley-Cruz/Huckubee/Paul. You could write it in stone that the GOP would win and imo those repubs make jeb bush look like nelson mandela.

Not one of those GOP candidates has a shot* to win the nomination, much less the general.

*Slightly overstated
 
Not one of those GOP candidates has a shot* to win the nomination, much less the general.

*Slightly overstated

And if jeb is somehow out of the race? Anything could happen; a scandal, an illness, a change of heart, etc.
 
Jeb was a decent Gov in FL when I lived there. Even many Gore voters liked Jeb and always thought he shoukd have been the Bush son to run for president instead of Dubya
 
And if jeb is somehow out of the race? Anything could happen; a scandal, an illness, a change of heart, etc.

Walker and Rubio would still be more viable (not to mention Lindsay Graham and Paul Ryan). And any number of other legitimate candidates (especially a couple other Republican governors) would throw their hats in the ring at that point too.
 
It will be interesting to see how fellow Dems attack her during the primaries or if they back off a little, knowing Hilary is likely the nomination anyways and because the level of pure venom and hatred that will be unleashed upon her by the GOP will be relentless.
 
Walker and Rubio would still be more viable (not to mention Lindsay Graham and Paul Ryan). And any number of other legitimate candidates (especially a couple other Republican governors) would throw their hats in the ring at that point too.


Paul Ryan would be a disaster for the GOP. Him being chosen as VP nomination doomed Romney in 2012, he's way to far right. Republicans aren't going to win without a centrist.

Of course, Ryan has also insisted he will not run.
 
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What I'm excited for is all the new conspiracy theories. I mean I can't even count how many times I've seen crazies talking about Obama is the Anti-christ. Well, if Obama leaves office that would probably lead to the next Dem Prez being the new Anti-Christ.

Imagine this...Hillary becomes president. She's already got a dozen or so made up scandals. Add to that the potential of Julian Castro being VP choice (I saw something on one of the news sites about this possibility). His last name is Castro. Obama is easing relations with Cuba and I'm sure Hillary would continue that. How long do you think it'd take racist white conservatives to start the Raul/Fidel connection with Julian Castro? From there, how long would it take them to "realize" that the Obama/Clinton thing was all about changing us into a Communist nation. They've said it about Obama for a while now, that would only further the conspiracy theories.

LOL I want this. So bad.
 
Paul Ryan would be a disaster for the GOP. Him being chosen as VP nomination doomed Romney in 2012, he's way to far right. Republicans aren't going to win without a centrist.

Of course, Ryan has also insisted he will not run.

He's moderated himself somewhat over the last year... his budget plan a year ago for example consolidated most social welfare/housing programs into a single block grant rather than cut many of them outright (it was still a political nonstarter of course). In any case he's still a more viable candidate than Rand and Ted though, which is all I was arguing (and that doesn't mean that one of them can't make noise in Iowa, I should qualify).
 
Im making more money now and pay less in healthcare for my family than i ever have. Thanks for a great 8 years obama.
 
Im making more money now and pay less in healthcare for my family than i ever have. Thanks for a great 8 years obama.

It does feel awkward hearing all of these horror stories when my wife and I haven't been closer to debt free in all of our lives.

The really ironic part is if "Obamacare" existed pre 2010, we would've been out of debt before last year even. Oh well, better late than never.
 
I like that there's republican Facebook posts going around to petition to stop hillary. Coming from the people that introduced the world to palin and bachman. Fucking morons lol....
 
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