What does Improper Gun Ownership look like?

[zyxt9]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/01/us/kentucky-accidential-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

The gun was given to the 5 year old for his birthday.

5 year old

And why is a gun manufacturer producing models for kids?

I'm not suggesting you have to be old enough to drive in order to own a gun, but I don't think that is unreasonable.

5 year olds might get a BB gun (though I don't think those should be given to kids under 8, maybe even 10), but not a .22. Then there is the fact the ammunition was either already loaded in the gun or within very easy reach of the kid.

Shooting and death were ruled "accidental". Sorry, we need to create a new category for these deaths. Maybe "unnecessary", or "negligant". Oh wait, that's right, "negligance" is already an option. When will the police start charging the parents with "negligant homicide" in situations like this? The boy should be taken into Child Protective Services due to Child Endangerment, IMHO.

Preventing 5 year old kids from owning guns is NOT a violation of their Constitutional Rights anymore than not allowing someone to smoke cigarettes until 18 or drink until 21 is a violation. Those ages are in place for the safety of not only the individual, but society in general. Guns manufacturers have no business creating guns designed for children. Toy guns, sure, I don't have an issue with that. BB guns, yeah, you can shoot an eye out and those are sad stories in their own right, but it is difficult to justify removal of BB guns. There is zero reason for children to have actual guns.

Of course these types of changes will never happen due to the NRA and the Gun Lobby having too much hold in Congress. I get that is the reality at the moment, but there will come a time when the vast majority of US Citizens demand a change to protect the children. These shootings are not the result of a Mental Disability, they are the result of Parents doing the wrong thing.

The saddest part is the kid didn't shoot and kill the mother, IMHO.

 

[byco42]

Had I seen a gun at the age of 5 I'd have peed my pants.

 

[Michchamp]

Improper gun ownership looks like a lot of things, not just this.

arming most adults with lethal weapons capable of killing several from a distance is crazy enough... now in the case of kids, that's beyond negligence. That's reckless at best, knowingly enabling murder at the worst. Hell, a lot of adults can't control their temper... putting more guns in arm's reach just means more shootings. With juvenile ownership, your average toddler's temper tantrum, or high school brawl is going to be a hell of a lot worse.

But hey, you reap what you sow... a certain large subset of people have in the past 20 years argued til the cows come home against anyone who proposes additional restrictions on the ownership and sales of firearms. These people created a monster in the NRA years ago, and from the latest Senate vote, it's clearly unstoppable now. just get used to it. when bullets fly through your house cause the local bored teenagers think it'll be fun, or the kid's birthday party ends in a shooting because little Billy ate someone else's ice cream cone, hopefully you'll know who to blame.

 

[Monster]

i got a rifle at 11.

5 is way too young and these parents can only blame themselves.

Love what the uncle said. "This is something you can't prepur fer". Uhhh, yeah...you could prepare for it. DON'T GIVE A 5 YEAR OLD A GUN AND LET HIM/HER HAVE ACCESS TO IT AT ALL TIMES! SUPERVISE YOUR KID! BETTER YET, WAIT TIL THE KID IS OLD ENOUGH TO TIE HIS OWN SHOES BEFORE GIVING A RIFLE!

 

[Michchamp]

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Love what the uncle said. "This is something you can't prepur fer". Uhhh, yeah...you could prepare for it. DON'T GIVE A 5 YEAR OLD A GUN AND LET HIM/HER HAVE ACCESS TO IT AT ALL TIMES! SUPERVISE YOUR KID! BETTER YET, WAIT TIL THE KID IS OLD ENOUGH TO TIE HIS OWN SHOES BEFORE GIVING A RIFLE!

"Mama always said, 'stupid is as stupid does.'"

 

[Michchamp]

here's another pic of Improper Gun Ownership:

 

[byco42]

here's another pic of Improper Gun Ownership:

Who has she shot on purpose or by accident?

 

[Thumb]

"It was God's will. It was her time to go, I guess," she told WLEX. "I just know she's in heaven right now and I know she's in good hands with the Lord."

Idiots like this make me glad in an Atheist.

Her five year old son shoots and kills her two year old daughter because she's a stupid cunt who lets a child play with a deadly weapon, and she writes it off as gods will?

What a convenient scapegoat.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Its not the guns, as usually its the stupid parents. I got tonka truck when I was five and this kid gets a gun..

 

[Mitchrapp]

"It was God's will. It was her time to go, I guess," she told WLEX. "I just know she's in heaven right now and I know she's in good hands with the Lord."

Idiots like this make me glad in an Atheist.

Her five year old son shoots and kills her two year old daughter because she's a stupid cunt who lets a child play with a deadly weapon, and she writes it off as gods will?

What a convenient scapegoat.

Nothing to do with God, its all about the Parent. She'll get hers in the end..

 

[Monster]

"It was God's will. It was her time to go, I guess," she told WLEX. "I just know she's in heaven right now and I know she's in good hands with the Lord."

Idiots like this make me glad in an Atheist.

Her five year old son shoots and kills her two year old daughter because she's a stupid cunt who lets a child play with a deadly weapon, and she writes it off as gods will?

What a convenient scapegoat.

Agreed 100%.

 

[Mitchrapp]

You Atheist all stick together. Instead of realizing this is one fucked up Christian (I can't even call her that), you attack God.

 

[Michchamp]

Who has she shot on purpose or by accident?

well, unless you're shooting, (not sighting, or posing for a picture) you're supposed to keep your finger off the trigger.

you should also have an IQ higher than 6.

 

[Thumb]

You Atheist all stick together. Instead of realizing this is one fucked up Christian (I can't even call her that), you attack God.

Where did I or anyone attack god Mitch?

I said she was an idiot who laid the blame off on god, making him her scapegoat.

Wear a hat out in that sun, buddy.

 

[Monster]

You Atheist all stick together. Instead of realizing this is one fucked up Christian (I can't even call her that), you attack God.

Who attacked God? What we're saying is these people say this was god's will for the girl to die. We're saying it's the parents' stupidity that caused it.

 

[byco42]

Apparently Thumb and Monster need their daily affirmation that God is a non-existent entity, and this woman's misguided justification for her son's death might be good for a week of them.

 

[Monster]

Apparently Thumb and Monster need their daily affirmation that God is a non-existent entity, and this woman's misguided justification for her son's death might be good for a week of them.

Again, we didn't say anything about God not existing. We both spoke about using God as the reason her daughter is dead. Using God as a scapegoat for problems YOU cause is wrong.

 

[byco42]

Again, we didn't say anything about God not existing. We both spoke about using God as the reason her daughter is dead. Using God as a scapegoat for problems YOU cause is wrong.

Thumb: "Idiots like this make me glad in an Atheist."

You: "Agreed 100%"

Hence my comment about affirmation.

 

[Monster]

Thumb: "Idiots like this make me glad in an Atheist."

You: "Agreed 100%"

Hence my comment about affirmation.

That comment of his was about the idiocy of believing the girl's death was god's will and using that to protect her own guilt. Whether you believe in God or not, this was not His doing.

 

[Monster]

Oh , and also that since we are atheists, we're not able to use those excuses.