What does Improper Gun Ownership look like?

[KAWDUP]

Oh , and also that since we are atheists, we're not able to use those excuses.

Well you are, but then we'd probably put you in a nut-house (if we ever find one that is).

 

[zyxt9]

As a spiritual person, I agree with Thumb and Monster on this. Saying it was G-d's Will takes the blame from where it belongs no differently than the cops ruling it an Accident and not charging the mother with Negligent Homicide. G-d allows for Freedom of Choice which means it is not predetermined. It wasn't Will that caused this child to die, but the parent choosing to purchase a gun for a 5 year old, and letting the kid play with a loaded weapon. I can't think of many 5 year olds capable of properly loading a gun, even one designed for kids...which is such a stupid thing to create it boggles the mind. .

 

[Michchamp]

Apparently Thumb and Monster need their daily affirmation that God is a non-existent entity, and this woman's misguided justification for her son's death might be good for a week of them.

1. it was her daughter who died; the son shot her.

2. thank you for not lumping me together with those clowns. Proud to say I only need a bi-monthly affirmation that god is a non-existent entity.

 

[Monster]

1. it was her daughter who died; the son shot her.

2. thank you for not lumping me together with those clowns. Proud to say I only need a bi-monthly affirmation that god is a non-existent entity.

Lol!

 

[KAWDUP]

I wasn't going to get involved in this, but you guys are mis-stating what God's will is and what it does and doesn't do.

Saying it is God's will doesn't take any blame away whatsoever. She is most certainly responsible for it. No one, however, really gets to determine the actual time of demise. You can hasten it - hell, you could even shoot them yourself, but you aren't deciding anything. Now if you said, she doesn't deserve the comfort one might get feeling that God's will is being done by taking her child, I would whole-heartedly agree.

But other than that, I think folks are confusing justice, and judgement, with blame.

 

[byco42]

I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that this woman is deflecting all responsibility and ascribing it to God's will, which is nearly as reckless as handing a five-year-old a firearm to play with.

It's just odd to me that anyone would apply this tragic circumstance to affirm their own well-established, adamant and personal disbelief in God, or need to at all. And that another would second. It's equally curious that anyone would be "glad" to not believe in something. I can only identify and quantify what I believe. What I don't believe is too wide a subject to quantify or even consider.

 

[Monster]

I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that this woman is deflecting all responsibility and ascribing it to God's will, which is nearly as reckless as handing a five-year-old a firearm to play with.

It's just odd to me that anyone would apply this tragic circumstance to affirm their own well-established, adamant and personal disbelief in God, or need to at all. And that another would second. It's equally curious that anyone would be "glad" to not believe in something. I can only identify and quantify what I believe. What I don't believe is too wide a subject to quantify or even consider.

Dude, you're twistingvwhat we're saying. And I do believe in something. I believe in people and in science. I believe in what i can see, touch, taste, hear, and smell. I don't believe in a book that has many stories that are similar or exactly the same as stories from other myths. I choose to live my life with as much love and honesty as possible. I believe I should be good because I choose to be, not because of a threat of eternal damnation or chance of reward. I believe that I can't possibly know if there are gods, but that it's fairly easy to disprove the bible and other religious texts.

 

[byco42]

Dude, you're twistingvwhat we're saying. And I do believe in something. I believe in people and in science. I believe in what i can see, touch, taste, hear, and smell. I don't believe in a book that has many stories that are similar or exactly the same as stories from other myths. I choose to live my life with as much love and honesty as possible. I believe I should be good because I choose to be, not because of a threat of eternal damnation or chance of reward. I believe that I can't possibly know if there are gods, but that it's fairly easy to disprove the bible and other religious texts.

Go in peace.

 

[Monster]

Go in peace.

Muslims, jews, and Hindus say the same to you.

 

[Thumb]

Apparently Thumb and Monster need their daily affirmation that God is a non-existent entity, and this woman's misguided justification for her son's death might be good for a week of them.

I don't need any affirmation at all, but if I did it could be a lot more local than some news story.

I am an Atheist, and and I don't have a single problem with people who believe in god, until they use their god as an excuse or a motivation to do inhumane things. Lets not forget the 9/11 terrorists were doing "god's" work in their eyes.

 

[Michchamp]

Inside the kiddie gun market.

Magazines like ?Junior Shooter? call hunting with firearms ?one of the safest recreational activities in America,? and sees introducing kids to guns early on as a direct investment in future pro-gun voters: ?Each person who is introduced to the shooting sports and has a positive experience is another vote in favor of keeping our American heritage and freedom alive,? Junior Shooter editor-in-chief Andy Fink wrote in the winter 2012 issue.? Adding: ?They may not be old enough to vote now, but they will be in the future.?​

 

[Monster]

Inside the kiddie gun market.

Magazines like ?Junior Shooter? call hunting with firearms ?one of the safest recreational activities in America,? and sees introducing kids to guns early on as a direct investment in future pro-gun voters: ?Each person who is introduced to the shooting sports and has a positive experience is another vote in favor of keeping our American heritage and freedom alive,? Junior Shooter editor-in-chief Andy Fink wrote in the winter 2012 issue.? Adding: ?They may not be old enough to vote now, but they will be in the future.?​

i don't mind introducing kids to guns at an early age, but you better make sure the gun is stored away under lock and key. And you'd better make sure that anytime they are using the gun, you are supervising them.

 

[Diggler Cometh]

i don't mind introducing kids to guns at an early age, but you better make sure the gun is stored away under lock and key. And you'd better make sure that anytime they are using the gun, you are supervising them.

Bingo.

 

[zyxt9]

I also believe it is important for inner city kids as well as counry kids to understand what to do if they find a gun and how to handle one properly. This can be important if they come across a gun somewhere. Yes, it is rare, but knowing what to do can help prevent more tragedies due to adult negligence. Teach them how to point away from anyone and keep fingers off the triggers, call police and wait till they arrive. Now obviously it is best not to touch the gun at all, but many kids are hanging around with other kids, some younger. It is important the older children be taught how to not only keep themselves safe, but those too young to know how to be safe around guns.

 

[lostleader]

Its the parents fault, not God's Will. Giving a 5 year old a youth model .22 is questionable parenting but can be justified with proper parenting. Some families including mine enjoy shooting guns. Target shooting is a fun activity for all to enjoy at a proper age. IMO 5 is very young and my son will not be getting a gun until he is at least 12. However I am sure he will shoot a gun well before then, but only under my direct supervision. He will by no means have access to any firearm until he is capable of handling the responsibility of the firearm. I would say by the age of 15-16 a child is old enough to understand what they have and what it is capable to do. It all goes back to safe gun ownership, anyone who has taken a hunter safety course is taught these things.

I also think all these parents that take there kids out hunting when the children are 7 and 8 years old are crazy. Kids don't understand what they are truly doing and do not understand the whole process of things.

It is a shame that this has happened and I hope the parents learn from the mistake, but that doesn't sound like its happening. My 3 year old hears it all the time what he is to do if he finds a gun, in this house or in any house. He has even been given a few test and always reports it to an adult immediately. Its just a matter of proper parenting and proper gun control. Lock the guns in a safe, store the ammo separately locked up. Simple and effective.

 

[turok]

Who has she shot on purpose or by accident?

I don't think that Pernicious Palin actually owned that rifle, but had been permitted to hold and examine it by whoever did. Just like during her campaign when she was tooling around in a supporter's exotic car.