What's causing running game woes

[Mitchrapp]

Yes. Since Stafford has a proven worse run game, worse drops and worse short fields since 2011. So all of them had better. Every.single.QB.

I saw a video today and they said Pittsburgh has more drops than any team this season.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Stafford is much much better than his career rating. His play is a 100+ rating QB. Many things have dragged that down


QB rating is a team stat for a lot of it. A good QB can be dragged down. A bad QB can also look better than he is aka Dak Prescott. Stafford is a good QB with mediocre ratings due to other factors. this can't be dispute


Every time Stafford gets a whiff of short fields or less drops or healthy weapons, he has a great QB rating

The only career passer over 100 is AR. And he's barely. Plus back in the day a 90 passing rating was considered pretty good but so many QB get that each year.. Tons of QB.

 

[grandy]

I saw a video today and they said Pittsburgh has more drops than any team this season.

Don?t forget about dropped interceptions, even though you?ll never see it talked about here.

 

[LKP]

I saw a video today and they said Pittsburgh has more drops than any team this season.

Run game, health of their weapons, short fields, pass protection. More than one factor. Stafford's support is worst in basically all of them and it's mostly due to injuries to others

 

[Mitchrapp]

Every time Stafford gets a whiff of short fields or less drops or healthy weapons, he has a great QB rating

So he needs Megatron, Herman Moore, Barry Sanders, Antonia Gates, The Dallas OL and the Steelers 1976 defense?

 

[grandy]

So he needs Megatron, Herman Moore, Barry Sanders, Antonia Gates, The Dallas OL and the Steelers 1976 defense?

To put up a consistent 100 rating yes, but then it would define how great Stafford is. You know that ?team stat? would certainly be used to justify an individual?s performance in that scenario.

 

[LKP]

So he needs Megatron, Herman Moore, Barry Sanders, Antonia Gates, The Dallas OL and the Steelers 1976 defense?

Nope just average in most categories. Not the worst in most of them like he has had. And his hand needs to be healthy. 2011, 2016 and 2017 a ridiculous amount of throwing hand injuries. Throw in the ankle injury against the Saints causing 3 picks

 

[tomdalton22]

To put up a consistent 100 rating yes, but then it would define how great Stafford is. You know that ?team stat? would certainly be used to justify an individual?s performance in that scenario.

So Stafford would play to a 110 rating if he didn't have a shitty team around him.

:tup:

 

[LKP]

So Stafford would play to a 110 rating if he didn't have a shitty team around him.

:tup:

If his good team didn't have a ton of injuries along with Stafford injuries. Run game needs some work

 

[grandy]

So Stafford would play to a 110 rating if he didn't have a shitty team around him.

:tup:

Need to create a fictional player known as ?ideal Stafford? (or simply iStafford), who never deals with injuries and everyone around him plays to their potential. Then we can figure out who?s actually being discussed: iStafford, the greatest QB in the league right now or Stafford, the above average QB who just can?t catch a break

Maybe we can make a sitcom out of it

 

[LKP]

Elite Stafford is always on the field. The support changes his rating

 

[LKP]

Need to create a fictional player known as ?ideal Stafford? (or simply iStafford), who never deals with injuries and everyone around him plays to their potential. Then we can figure out who?s actually being discussed: iStafford, the greatest QB in the league right now or Stafford, the above average QB who just can?t catch a break

Maybe we can make a sitcom out of it

I didn't say everyone had to be great. Just not the worst in almost every category due to other starter injuries

Maybe we could keep like 3 linemen healthy on O and D next year. Ansah, Hyder, Ngata, now Washington, Hill too much for the pass rush. Decker 8 games, Lang several and playing hurt, Wagner now, Swanson missed 4 games, Dahl almost all year, Corey Robinson half the year.

Make the lines healthy again

 

[brewer229]

Most YAC in the league benefits Stafford stats.
We are 7th best in average starting field position this year..benefits the Offense
Our defense and special teams have scored more than any other team..benefits offense numbers
Our Defense is top 10 in turnovers caused.
Our Offense is bottom 10 (bad) in turnovers
Offense is 18th in average yards per drive (below average)

Sad thing is without our crappy defense and special teams we are probably sitting here at 3-9 right now, they carried us earlier in the season.


Vikings lost their top 2 QBs, and their #1 RB, they haven't had their starting DT for two years now. Teams deal with injuries.

 

[LKP]

Most YAC in the league benefits Stafford stats.
We are 7th best in average starting field position this year..benefits the Offense
Our defense and special teams have scored more than any other team..benefits offense numbers
Our Defense is top 10 in turnovers caused.
Our Offense is bottom 10 (bad) in turnovers
Offense is 18th in average yards per drive (below average)

Sad thing is without our crappy defense and special teams we are probably sitting here at 3-9 right now, they carried us earlier in the season.


Vikings lost their top 2 QBs, and their #1 RB, they haven't had their starting DT for two years now. Teams deal with injuries.

Stafford has a good rating this year would be great. Great if not for Oline protection and run game problems.

Talking career rating which is why is numbers are only upper 80s. Drops, weapon injuries, Stafford injuries, Oline, run game problems and lack of short fields most years.

Keenum is better than the other two QBs for Minnesota. They got lucky having those QB injuries. Vikings have a very healthy D which carries them.

Imagine the Vikings with Griffen with Ansahs injuries, no Linval Joseph and no Hunter. They would be terrible on D with no pass rush

 

[byco42]

Stafford has a good rating this year would be great. Great if not for Oline protection and run game problems.

Talking career rating which is why is numbers are only upper 80s. Drops, weapon injuries, Stafford injuries, Oline, run game problems and lack of short fields most years.

Keenum is better than the other two QBs for Minnesota. They got lucky having those QB injuries. Vikings have a very healthy D which carries them.

Imagine the Vikings with Griffen with Ansahs injuries, no Linval Joseph and no Hunter. They would be terrible on D with no pass rush

What is your explanation for one playoff win since 1957? Adding up to DECADES of futility? And no apparent difference after Martha fired have the management and hired new?


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[sggatecl]

My one DSF wish is to see how LKP defended Joey Harrington back in the day. I bet, if he was old enough to have internet privileges, that it was glorious.

 

[sggatecl]

What is your explanation for one playoff win since 1957? Adding up to DECADES of futility? And no apparent difference after Martha fired have the management and hired new?


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60 years of bad luck, curses, and the stars not aligning correctly.

 

[LKP]

Harrington was garbage as were all lions qbs prior to Stafford

2011 and beyond it has been injuries and refs

Prior was lack of qb talent

 

[mhughes0021]

Run game... wins nothing
Weapons... wins nothing
2nd in defense... nothing

Needs everything to be successful = Trent dilfer

 

[boogerlovejoy]

My one DSF wish is to see how LKP defended Joey Harrington back in the day. I bet, if he was old enough to have internet privileges, that it was glorious.

Lack of weapons.

Scotty Anderson
Bill Schreader
Az-Zahir Hakim
David "Circus" Kircus
Scotty Vines

And the triumphant trio

Roy Will
C Rodgers
Fatty Mike Williams