When can we be upset about Ebron?

[LKP]

I was ridiculed for suggesting Detroit outplayed opponents last year but gave games away. Now suddenly we beat the Packers with Rodgers and the Packers somehow gave the game away. No credit to Detroit.

Rewatching the game, there was reasons for the 3 incompletes on 3rd down for Packer punts. Pressure and good coverage, not just Rodgers misfires. And the safety, two sacks to end drives and fumble we made that happen. Detroit not only outplayed Green Bay, they took it to them causing all of GBs problems.

 

[dubbsco]

Hughes, I really wouldn't consider a game that was 12-7 until 10 minutes left to be a "stomping." It was a very strange one.

 

[sggatecl]

Now suddenly we beat the Packers with Rodgers and the Packers somehow gave the game away. No credit to Detroit.

Holy shit. First tony and now you. The vast majority of this board has been giving the defense props. You could count on one hand the number of sour puss posters that aren't giving the Lions props after Sunday and have fingers to spare.

It's like you're fighting against an imaginary entity at this point. Move on.

 

[dubbsco]

Yeah really, it's silly. There is no denial of Detroit playing well whatsoever. But Green Bay absolutely, 100 percent helped Detroit out. And THAT IS OKAY. It's not shameful to tip your cap to the other team and appreciate them doing dumb shit to help.

 

[tomdalton22]

I was ridiculed for suggesting Detroit outplayed opponents last year but gave games away. Now suddenly we beat the Packers with Rodgers and the Packers somehow gave the game away. No credit to Detroit.

Rewatching the game, there was reasons for the 3 incompletes on 3rd down for Packer punts. Pressure and good coverage, not just Rodgers misfires. And the safety, two sacks to end drives and fumble we made that happen. Detroit not only outplayed Green Bay, they took it to them causing all of GBs problems.

First, I don't think a single person here has said that GB outplayed the Lions (of course I didn't go back and read every post). You took it to extremes last year. You would say that the Lions outplayed their opponents "with the exception of the 4 turnovers including the pick 6" That is NOT out playing the opponent! That is self imploding.

 

[mhughes0021]

I was ridiculed for suggesting Detroit outplayed opponents last year but gave games away. Now suddenly we beat the Packers with Rodgers and the Packers somehow gave the game away. No credit to Detroit.

Rewatching the game, there was reasons for the 3 incompletes on 3rd down for Packer punts. Pressure and good coverage, not just Rodgers misfires. And the safety, two sacks to end drives and fumble we made that happen. Detroit not only outplayed Green Bay, they took it to them causing all of GBs problems.

we ridiculed you because youre reasons were absolutely asinine. Like how it was unfair cause Akers cant kick in the dry heat of Arizona lol. Debating legit reasoning and debating your bullcrap are 2 different things.

Arod played poorly.....it cant be argued. His qb rating, qbr, comp %, unforced throwing errors, decision making....all sucked. Its rare to get an arod that plays like that....some of the time it was due to our defensive front 7.....a lot of the time it was arod playing poorly.

This was a good win because it was a divisional win....and that's about it. We didn't play very well and we didn't beat a GB team that played their best game. It was an "ugly" game basically thru 3 quarters and if arod hits an open jordy nelson instead of throwing the ball into the dirt then theres a chance we don't even walk out of their with a W.

Statistically were a top 5 defense right now....do you guys truly think were a top 5 defense? Or did we just play an awful giants team with a new ocord, Carolina with olsen as their top target and an off GB team? I don't think were a bottom 10 defense....I don't think were a top 10 defense.....I think were probably somewhere in the middle....which means the teams weve played havent played well on offense.

 

[atxlion82]

Our defense played lights out. They scored us 9 points and help Greenbay to 7. I think LKP is the only one on this board who would have ever projected our D outscoring Greenbay.

With that being said out offense needs to step up. With our time of possesion and play of our D we should have had the game put away at half. I am happy that for once we didnt give up a lead late in a game and lose

 

[LKP]

We forced Green Bay into mistakes. We forced Rodgers to be off. There is no debating that. Plus the sacks stops (2), the safety and forced fumble.

My reasoning was not assinine. Missed fgs can cost you games. Fact Akers struggled there. Two of the kicks were blocked. They cost us close games. This game wasn't even close. The Lions controlled the game and the clock. The last 5 possesions on offene the Lions moved the ball at will. Missed fg, and fumble in redzone took away points. But the Lions defense dominated too so those points taken away didn't end up mattering.

 

[LKP]

Our defense played lights out. They scored us 9 points and help Greenbay to 7. I think LKP is the only one on this board who would have ever projected our D outscoring Greenbay.

With that being said out offense needs to step up. With our time of possesion and play of our D we should have had the game put away at half. I am happy that for once we didnt give up a lead late in a game and lose

The offense did step. The last 5 possessions were very good for Detroit's offense. First 4 bad, last 5 very good. 5 in a game dominating the clock will get you a win any week. Defense played well every possession but one (lone GB TD).

 

[atxlion82]

The offense did step. The last 5 possessions were very good for Detroit's offense. First 4 bad, last 5 very good. 5 in a game dominating the clock will get you a win any week. Defense played well every possession but one (lone GB TD).

So if the offense plays well 50% of the time you are happy?
With all the draft picks and FA signings i expect more than that out of our offense. I expect them to put up more than 10 points. You can say there was a missed FG but we need to be scoring more td's and not having to settle for fg's.

 

[LKP]

So if the offense plays well 50% of the time you are happy?
With all the draft picks and FA signings i expect more than that out of our offense. I expect them to put up more than 10 points. You can say there was a missed FG but we need to be scoring more td's and not having to settle for fg's.

5 drives can get you alot of points each game. 3 TDs and 2 FGs would be 27 for instance. Need to sure up RT protection (lost fumble in redzone) and start making field goals. Drive 5 we just needed to run out the clock.

Unrealistic of you to expect every drive to be awesome. And even the 2 pick drives we got into GB territory (37 yard line) on the first and midfield from the 20 on the second (big play to Calvin).

 

[dubbsco]

By the way, you cannot call that fumble forced. Lacy ran into the line and he dropped the ball. That was about as gimmie of a turnover as you can ask. Can't have it both ways.

 

[atxlion82]

5 drives can get you alot of points each game. 3 TDs and 2 FGs would be 27 for instance. Need to sure up RT protection (lost fumble in redzone) and start making field goals. Drive 5 we just needed to run out the clock.

Unrealistic of you to expect every drive to be awesome. And even the 2 pick drives we got into GB territory (37 yard line) on the first and midfield from the 20 on the second (big play to Calvin).

The problem is the 5 drives didn't turn into 27 points. If it did then yes I am ok with 27 points a game

 

[LKP]

By the way, you cannot call that fumble forced. Lacy ran into the line and he dropped the ball. That was about as gimmie of a turnover as you can ask. Can't have it both ways.

Most definitley a force. Fairley had great leverage and stuck his hand out there. Forced by Fairley, great recovery scoop and return by Carey. Great great play.

 

[LKP]

The problem is the 5 drives didn't turn into 27 points. If it did then yes I am ok with 27 points a game

Doesn't mean the offense was inept. They were 5 very good longer drives. The last 2 were great even. Missed FG not on the offense. Redzone sack fumble is on our 5th string right tackle that may not happen on Waddle's watch. We will see. Lions offense did perform. Eating up the clock was the most important performance of the game to keep it out of Rodgers hands. Optimum is they score 10 more offensive points, second best option is they score 10 points and eat up the clock. Which won the game.

 

[dubbsco]

Watch the replay. There was absolutely 0 attempt to strip the ball. Right place, right time. He stuck his arm out to slow down Lacy. If you do the whole "true turnover" crap, that was about as lucky as you can get. Pathetic ball security.

 

[LKP]

Watch the replay. There was absolutely 0 attempt to strip the ball. Right place, right time. He stuck his arm out to slow down Lacy. If you do the whole "true turnover" crap, that was about as lucky as you can get. Pathetic ball security.

He stuck his arm out to force the fumble. That is a great play by Fairley. You are on crack if you think that was pure luck.

 

[LKP]

The only lucky turnover was Ha Ha in poor coverage getting a gift from Fuller on a catchable ball.

 

[atxlion82]

One thing about our offense is we really have never had a problem moving the ball. The problem is finishing a drive and more important getting 7 points and not having to settle for a FG attempt.

 

[tomdalton22]

I don't even think that Fairly caused the fumble. The more I watch it I think Lacy's arm hit his OL right in the backside and caused the ball to come loose.