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Why did Detroit give up

biggunsbob

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On Khris Middleton? He was before svg right ?
 
On Khris Middleton? He was before svg right ?

Pretty sure he was considered a throw in along Brandon Knight to get Jennings.

We also had Stuckey at that point, not a lot of minutes for Middleton. Pretty sure he rotted in D League for a bit because I have no lasting memory of the guy.

*edit* Yes, it was pre SVG. That was Dumars.
 
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I more upset with the Spencer Dinwiddie dibocle... If we miss playoffs.... LATER STAN
 
As bad of a trade as it was, Middleton was not the Middleton we know back then. In the 27 games he had played for us his rookie year, Middleton was a 30% outside shooter. He was also a train wreck defensively. The latter probably shouldn't matter since almost all rookies are bad on defense. But when you look at the trade at the time, we are looking at a 2nd round backup wing who couldn't shoot or defend. He was also old for a rookie at 21, and hadn't actually shown a ton of shooting potential in college.

That all said, Middleton and Kravtsov were throw-ins because we needed to match salaries and neither were getting many minutes with the team. Kim English also would have worked to match salaries, but Joe preferred him for his demeanor and leadership.

Just FYI, Middleton was still bad in 2013-2014. He discovered his outside shot, but he was still a pylon on defense. It took good coaching before he became the super role player he is now. That doesn't justify the trade of course. Trading for Jennings in the first place (a player that has always been bad) was the real misstep.
 
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