2012 Electoral College Thread

[KAWDUP]

"Unpaid" wars? Actually I'd say America paid rather dearly.

 

[Thumb]

last time I checked.....Iraq war was over...most major combat has been over for 4 years???
Bush signed the withdrawal agreement in 2008 and left it stable for Obama

LOL left it stable?

 

[tsmith7559]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...al_election/ohio/election_2012_ohio_president
Rasmussen has Obama up 1 in Ohio

http://gravismarketing.blogspot.com/2012/10/ohio-poll-romney-leads-with-likely.html
Gravis with Romney up 1 in Ohio

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2012/Suffolk_NV_1011.pdf
Obama up 4 in Nevada

+8 Dem in the NV poll

 

[tsmith7559]

LOL left it stable?

He sure did......although with Obama pulling out completely who knows where they stand...they are one of the few countries in the ME not currently blowing up

 

[Michchamp]

That reminds me...has either candidate talked about the two unpaid wars yet? or are they just ignoring it and talking about how much of a "threat" Iran is?

no. any criticism of the military, or Wall Street is pretty much off the table before elections if you want to have a shot at winning.

last time I checked.....Iraq war was over...most major combat has been over for 4 years???
Bush signed the withdrawal agreement in 2008 and left it stable for Obama

Nobody signed the withdrawal agreement. Our occupation rights were due to expire in 2008; both Bush AND Obama had been negotiating to extend them and neither succeeded. The "withdrawal" was then spun as such in the American media.

guessing the Iraqis were like: "Yes, thanks, you've done enough. No, really, we appreciate it. Please just leave now. No, we know you never really followed through on building all those power plants you destroyed or repairing the sewage systems you blew up, or the schools you bombed, but it's okay. Thanks. We'll take care of it. We'll be fine, really. Okay now. Don't call us, we'll call you... haha, that was joke, Mr. American Man, Sir. okay, very good. Bye Bye now..."

 

[tsmith7559]

no. any criticism of the military, or Wall Street is pretty much off the table before elections if you want to have a shot at winning.



Nobody signed the withdrawal agreement. Our occupation rights were due to expire in 2008; both Bush AND Obama had been negotiating to extend them and neither succeeded. The "withdrawal" was then spun as such in the American media.

guessing the Iraqis were like: "Yes, thanks, you've done enough. No, really, we appreciate it. Please just leave now. No, we know you never really followed through on building all those power plants you destroyed or repairing the sewage systems you blew up, or the schools you bombed, but it's okay. Thanks. We'll take care of it. We'll be fine, really. Okay now. Don't call us, we'll call you... haha, that was joke, Mr. American Man, Sir. okay, very good. Bye Bye now..."

LOL....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

 

[grandy]

no. any criticism of the military, or Wall Street is pretty much off the table before elections if you want to have a shot at winning.

Understandable

Gotta keep those defense contractors fat and happy.

 

[grandy]

And Obama and co. are slow as shit

We should've been out of there a long time ago

 

[Mitchrapp]

no. any criticism of the military, or Wall Street is pretty much off the table before elections if you want to have a shot at winning.



Nobody signed the withdrawal agreement. Our occupation rights were due to expire in 2008; both Bush AND Obama had been negotiating to extend them and neither succeeded. The "withdrawal" was then spun as such in the American media.

guessing the Iraqis were like: "Yes, thanks, you've done enough. No, really, we appreciate it. Please just leave now. No, we know you never really followed through on building all those power plants you destroyed or repairing the sewage systems you blew up, or the schools you bombed, but it's okay. Thanks. We'll take care of it. We'll be fine, really. Okay now. Don't call us, we'll call you... haha, that was joke, Mr. American Man, Sir. okay, very good. Bye Bye now..."

Why, Military doesn't vote democrat anyway. Should be fair game for Obama, he might lose 3 votes.

 

[redandguilty]

The swing at five thirty eight is remarkable. Romney has gone from a 12.9% chance of winning just before the debate to a 32.1% chance now.

FYI: Nate Silver, the guy that runs that blog, credits his interest in stats to liking math as a kid and being just the right age the last time the Tigers won the World Series.

 

[Michchamp]

LOL....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

from your article:

In an interview January 24, 2008, US Defense Secretary Robert Gates indicated that work on a SOFA had barely been started. [18] On June 13, 2008, Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said that negotiations with the United States on a long-term security pact were deadlocked because of concern the deal infringes Iraqi sovereignty.
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we didn't ink the long term deal we wanted, so we left. okay, but let's argue semantics instead...

and I forgot that when they inked the face saving withdrawal was when that Iraqi guy threw his shoes at Bush. "This is a farewell kiss from the Iraqi people, you dog!!"

 

[grandy]

New Rasmussen poll out

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...rolina/election_2012_north_carolina_president

Romney up 3 in NC

 

[grandy]

The swing at five thirty eight is remarkable. Romney has gone from a 12.9% chance of winning just before the debate to a 32.1% chance now.

FYI: Nate Silver, the guy that runs that blog, credits his interest in stats to liking math as a kid and being just the right age the last time the Tigers won the World Series.

Thanks Red

Been keeping track of the numbers on that site daily now, the blog posts are pretty interesting as well.

Been about a month and a half since Romney was last in the low 30s.

 

[tsmith7559]

from your article:

In an interview January 24, 2008, US Defense Secretary Robert Gates indicated that work on a SOFA had barely been started. [18] On June 13, 2008, Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said that negotiations with the United States on a long-term security pact were deadlocked because of concern the deal infringes Iraqi sovereignty.
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we didn't ink the long term deal we wanted, so we left. okay, but let's argue semantics instead...

and I forgot that when they inked the face saving withdrawal was when that Iraqi guy threw his shoes at Bush. "This is a farewell kiss from the Iraqi people, you dog!!"

"On December 14, 2008, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the security pact with Iraq."

 

[grandy]

New Florida poll

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/11/3045712/poll-strong-debate-helps-mitt.html
Romney up 7

 

[grandy]

Updated the electoral projection sites

No new polls as of now this morning

 

[tsmith7559]

just an observation...
RCP average for the most current polling( 7 polling organizations) completely after the 1st debate shows Obama with just 45.85% of the vote....not a good sign

 

[redandguilty]

just an observation...
RCP average for the most current polling( 7 polling organizations) completely after the 1st debate shows Obama with just 45.85% of the vote....not a good sign

That's not a good sign? Whose side are you on, anyway?

 

[grandy]

Three new polls out today

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ction/florida/election_2012_florida_president
Rasmussen with Romney up 4 in Florida

http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2012/FL12.html
ARG with Romney up 3 in Florida

http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2012/NH12.html
ARG with Romney up 4 in NH

 

[redandguilty]

The 5thirty8 probability chart: