Airport protests miss the mark

[Gulo Blue]

I'm all for civil disobedience and peaceful protests and I'm not even opposed to them getting disruptive and costly at times, but they have to be well-targeted. These airport protests impact regular people. Some of them are trying to get to funerals. Some of them aren't wealthy and have a lot riding on these trips. It's important to try to not hurt 'the little guy' when you're standing up to power and if you do inconvenience the little guy, try to do so minimally. Plane flights can be a really big deal.

 

[Michchamp]

I'm all for civil disobedience and peaceful protests and I'm not even opposed to them getting disruptive and costly at times, but they have to be well-targeted. These airport protests impact regular people. Some of them are trying to get to funerals. Some of them aren't wealthy and have a lot riding on these trips. It's important to try to not hurt 'the little guy' when you're standing up to power and if you do inconvenience the little guy, try to do so minimally. Plane flights can be a really big deal.

sure that's fair. blame the protestors, and not the guy who signed the executive order sparking them.

how dare they!

 

[Monster]

My only issue so far is watching them break out into a chant of "black lives matter!" on live TV. Why muddy the message with irrelevant things? I don't think that's happening everywhere, but that annoyed me. For the most part, these protests have been much better than other liberal protests in the last few years.

 

[Michchamp]

My only issue so far is watching them break out into a chant of "black lives matter!" on live TV. Why muddy the message with irrelevant things? I don't think that's happening everywhere, but that annoyed me. For the most part, these protests have been much better than other liberal protests in the last few years.

LOL, of course that would be your only issue with it.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I'm all for civil disobedience and peaceful protests...

Civil disobedience, by definition, goes beyond a peaceful protest:



Definition of civil disobedience
: refusal to obey governmental demands or commands especially as a nonviolent and usually collective means of forcing concessions from the government

An airport is not a good venue to stage a peaceful protest - too little space and too much regular commotion.

I saw that some of the crowds were pepper sprayed when ordered to disperse.

They should meet up at Madonna's house.

Or the West Hollywood Kabbalah center she hangs out at.

Here she is at the Kabbalah Center in NYC. She's with her little daughter Lola (Lourdes) who I think is still attending Michigan.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Civil disobedience, by definition, goes beyond a peaceful protest:



Definition of civil disobedience
: refusal to obey governmental demands or commands especially as a nonviolent and usually collective means of forcing concessions from the government

An airport is not a good venue to stage a peaceful protest - too little space and too much regular commotion.

I saw that some of the crowds were pepper sprayed when ordered to disperse.

They should meet up at Madonna's house.

Or the West Hollywood Kabbalah center she hangs out at.

Here she is at the Kabbalah Center in NYC. She's with her little daughter Lola (Lourdes) who I think is still attending Michigan.

Ok. I should have said nonviolent rather than peaceful.

 

[Gulo Blue]

sure that's fair. blame the protestors, and not the guy who signed the executive order sparking them.

how dare they!

Yeah. A little bit 'how dare they.' That's what I'm saying.

 

[Michchamp]

Gulo_Blue if he lived in Birmingham, AL 1964:

I support the civil rights movement, but why do they have to march like that? All the water the police water cannons are using to blast them has lowered our garden hose water pressure, and now I can't water my azaleas, which are wilting from the heat. Maybe these protestors should take that into consideration when they go on their marches? Equal rights is good and all, but not when I'm inconvenienced like this.​

 

[tinselwolverine]

Gulo_Blue if he lived in Birmingham, AL 1964:

I support the civil rights movement, but why do they have to march like that? All the water the police water cannons are using to blast them has lowered our garden hose water pressure, and now I can't water my azaleas, which are wilting from the heat. Maybe these protestors should take that into consideration when they go on their marches? Equal rights is good and all, but not when I'm inconvenienced like this.​

To be fair, the azalea is the number one must have plant in the South.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Gulo_Blue if he lived in Birmingham, AL 1964:

I support the civil rights movement, but why do they have to march like that? All the water the police water cannons are using to blast them has lowered our garden hose water pressure, and now I can't water my azaleas, which are wilting from the heat. Maybe these protestors should take that into consideration when they go on their marches? Equal rights is good and all, but not when I'm inconvenienced like this.​

In 1964, the protest weren't as likely to absolutely ruin some poor guy at random. That's my point. I don't know if those protests have been idealized in history, but they're the standard. Exactly what protests should be.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Sage Steele on the airport protests.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Sage Steele on the airport protests.

Those people are playing the same game MC is. Imagine a scenario where the protest is just an inconvenience and pretend we're talking about MLK or Rosa Parks. Making it take longer for people to get home from work is not the same thing as stranding people at airports. A plane ride is far more likely to be a big deal in someone's life. That's not to diminish what's going on with the people impacted by Trump's order, but doing a similar thing to people at random isn't right.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Those people are playing the same game MC is. Imagine a scenario where the protest is just an inconvenience and pretend we're talking about MLK or Rosa Parks. Making it take longer for people to get home from work is not the same thing as stranding people at airports. A plane ride is far more likely to be a big deal in someone's life. That's not to diminish what's going on with the people impacted by Trump's order, but doing a similar thing to people at random isn't right.

According to the article, her father is an army colonel and she bitched out some NFL player for doing the "black lives matter" kneel last season.

So she probably doesn't dig black lives matter glomming in on the airport protest.

 

[tomdalton22]

According to the article, her father is an army colonel and she bitched out some NFL player for doing the "black lives matter" kneel last season.

So she probably doesn't dig black lives matter glomming in on the airport protest.

Sage Steele ✔ @sagesteele
Hey @MikeEvans13_ look up definition of the word DEMOCRACY & remember this pic while kneeling/exercising your right to protest #perspective

She attached a couple picture of Arlington National Cemetery

 

[tigermud]

Ex-Tiger says get a job

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/m...detroit-tigers-aubrey-huff-protests/97248460/

Trump will put everyone back to work hopefully.

 

[Gulo Blue]

This has me thinking a little bit about what IS a good target for disruption. One thing that's a little bit funny is that Trump seems to have such thin skin, social media 'slacktivision' may have more of an impact now than ever before. If 1,000,000 liked a tweet about how Donald Trump likes wine coolers AND it was reported in the mainstream news, Trump would probably feel compelled to respond.

I think Trump properties/hotels/golf courses would be fair. Anything with his name on it is unlikely to impact the poor. Any Miss USA pageant related activities. Seems like those would be better targets for picketer and people forming human chains.

Seems doubly appropriate since he won't divest to avoid conflicts of interest.

 

[tomdalton22]

This has me thinking a little bit about what IS a good target for disruption. One thing that's a little bit funny is that Trump seems to have such thin skin, social media 'slacktivision' may have more of an impact now than ever before. If 1,000,000 liked a tweet about how Donald Trump likes wine coolers AND it was reported in the mainstream news, Trump would probably feel compelled to respond.

I think Trump properties/hotels/golf courses would be fair. Anything with his name on it is unlikely to impact the poor. Any Miss USA pageant related activities. Seems like those would be better targets for picketer and people forming human chains.

My guess is many of the workers at his hotels would be negatively impacted by protesters. Some of them are probably poor.

 

[Gulo Blue]

My guess is many of the workers at his hotels would be negatively impacted by protesters. Some of them are probably poor.

I doubt it. Imagine how bad that press would be if Trump wasn't paying his employees.

 

[Michchamp]

To be fair, the azalea is the number one must have plant in the South.

we have a couple of those in front, but they're coming out and being replaced with something a little more hardy, that can handle the heat here without needing us to use the sprinkler system.

also if Southern Living, aka "Slaveowner Living" recommends it, I'm out.

 

[Gulo Blue]

we have a couple of those in front, but they're coming out and being replaced with something a little more hardy, that can handle the heat here without needing us to use the sprinkler system.

also if Southern Living, aka "Slaveowner Living" recommends it, I'm out.

How would you know what Southern Living recommends?