Ann Coulter Slams Trump for Proposed DACA Compromise for the Wall

[Michchamp]

Another reason walls are dumb: it's really easy to tunnel under them. But keep humping that dream, idiots... a wall will solve your problems.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Another reason walls are dumb: it's really easy to tunnel under them. But keep humping that dream, idiots... a wall will solve your problems.

There seems to be A LOT of these.

 

[Michchamp]

There seems to be A LOT of these.

the wall needs to extend several miles high, so people can't fly over it with crude flying contraptions or small planes,, and all the way down until it hits the magma below the Earth's crust so no one can dig under it.

 

[tinselwolverine]

the wall needs to extend several miles high, so people can't fly over it with crude flying contraptions or small planes,, and all the way down until it hits the magma below the Earth's crust so no one can dig under it.

If they can dig or blast their way through the earth underground, I?m pretty sure they?d be able to dig or blast their way through the wall, no matter how deep it went.

All the articles I?m reading indicate that as United States surveillance and prevention strategies improves, so does the technology and strategies of the bad guy to challenge it.

 

[Gulo Blue]

If they can dig or blast their way through the earth underground, I?m pretty sure they?d be able to dig or blast their way through the wall, no matter how deep it went.

All the articles I?m reading indicate that as United States surveillance and prevention strategies improves, so does the technology and strategies of the bad guy to challenge it.

 

[Michchamp]

"Sir, we've discovered they've got advanced saw technology now!"

 

[Gulo Blue]

"Sir, we've discovered they've got advanced saw technology now!"

Don't forget trebuchets.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eval-siege-technology/?utm_term=.39f96e795e35

 

[Michchamp]

The wall is only capable of deterring people who will walk right up to it, and not think to bring rope, a ladder, a shovel, pickaxe, saws, or any other cheap, low technology solutions that have been widely available since the Bronze Age...

And it will only cost billions of dollars and constantly need to be maintained, probably for many more billions of dollars, on an annual basis.

Great investment.0

 

[Thumb]

But....I thought Mexico was paying for it....

 

[TheVictors]

If they can dig or blast their way through the earth underground, I?m pretty sure they?d be able to dig or blast their way through the wall, no matter how deep it went.

All the articles I?m reading indicate that as United States surveillance and prevention strategies improves, so does the technology and strategies of the bad guy to challenge it.

I mentioned this earlier - Border Patrol uses all forms of high tech - infared, heat sensoring, motion-activated - surveillance all the time as it is. Some archaic wall built for the sake of building it or because stupid people think it will magically stop all immigration into the US is nonsense.

 

[TheVictors]

The wall is only capable of deterring people who will walk right up to it, and not think to bring rope, a ladder, a shovel, pickaxe, saws, or any other cheap, low technology solutions that have been widely available since the Bronze Age...

And it will only cost billions of dollars and constantly need to be maintained, probably for many more billions of dollars, on an annual basis.

Great investment.0

I heard a stand up comedian talking about a trip to Australia and having to apply for a Visa to "work" in that country ...said one of the questions was "Are you a war criminal?"


As if someone who'd committed mass genocide and fleeing to AUS would get tripped up by being asked a basic question ....

"So we caravanned all the way from Guatemala but nobody told us there would be a wall when we got here!!!!"

 

[Gulo Blue]

The wall is only capable of deterring people who will walk right up to it, and not think to bring rope, a ladder, a shovel, pickaxe, saws, or any other cheap, low technology solutions that have been widely available since the Bronze Age...

And it will only cost billions of dollars and constantly need to be maintained, probably for many more billions of dollars, on an annual basis.

Great investment.0

Yeah, walls need to be monitored. And we're probably developing better ways to monitor with less manpower. In really rural places and big open spaces, the monitoring tech should do the job without the wall. The walls just buys you time, but if you can monitor a big enough area, you've got time. Still needs walls near cities, but we'll probably never need walls in some other parts.


It's sort of a game of whack a mole. You've got to keep improving at your weak links as cost effectively as you can. Seems to be more about overstaying visas, smuggling through checkpoints, and tunnels right now.

 

[TheVictors]

Yeah, walls need to be monitored. And we're probably developing better ways to monitor with less manpower. In really rural places and big open spaces, the monitoring tech should do the job without the wall. The walls just buys you time, but if you can monitor a big enough area, you've got time. Still needs walls near cities, but we'll probably never need walls in some other parts.


It's sort of a game of whack a mole. You've got to keep improving at your weak links as cost effectively as you can. Seems to be more about overstaying visas, smuggling through checkpoints, and tunnels right now.

Most all the illegals I've known were blonde white chicks from New Zealand and Australia who over-stayed in Vail or Aspen based on their 6-12mo Visa. Many worked for cash under the table or in landscaping jobs that paid cash. None mauled anyone with a hammer to my recollection, although Glen was a bit sketchy and seemed to steal lunch meat from the Deli he worked in next door to my snowboard shop.

 

[Gulo Blue]

"So we caravanned all the way from Guatemala but nobody told us there would be a wall when we got here!!!!"

If you're going to travel that far anyway, seems like if you wanted to go somewhere where there isn't a wall, you could have done that. It's almost like the plan was to go through checkpoint processing the whole time...

 

[Michchamp]

Yeah, walls need to be monitored. And we're probably developing better ways to monitor with less manpower. In really rural places and big open spaces, the monitoring tech should do the job without the wall. The walls just buys you time, but if you can monitor a big enough area, you've got time. Still needs walls near cities, but we'll probably never need walls in some other parts.


It's sort of a game of whack a mole. You've got to keep improving at your weak links as cost effectively as you can. Seems to be more about overstaying visas, smuggling through checkpoints, and tunnels right now.

Instead of playing whack a mole, maybe stop the failed "war on drugs" that turned our southern neighbor into a narco-state, and stop overthrowing Central American governments, leading to civil wars, failed states and millions of refugees? We could try that.

Most all the illegals I've known were blonde white chicks from New Zealand and Australia who over-stayed in Vail or Aspen based on their 6-12mo Visa. Many worked for cash under the table or in landscaping jobs that paid cash. None mauled anyone with a hammer to my recollection, although Glen was a bit sketchy and seemed to steal lunch meat from the Deli he worked in next door to my snowboard shop.

In Chicago there are these "community colleges" that teach "American culture" to people who come here on a variety of temporary visa statuses, so they can get those changed to temporary Student Visas for taking classes there, and stay in the US as long as they can come up with the tuition. It was like $1500/semester as of a couple years ago. The classes were an absolute joke... like "watch TV and write a list of all the things you saw on the show that were blue."

I don't know how these places continued to operate without getting the hammer brought down on them, but figured they had mob connections or some other source of protection.

All of these "students" work as cab drivers (probably mostly uber and lyft now), nannies, cleaning ladies, or other freelance, cash-only gigs.

They'd never get within 1,000 miles of the border wall, most flying into JFK or ORD from Warsaw, Istanbul, Bucharest, Karachi, etc., but were still here TAKIN' OUR JOBS.

 

[TheVictors]

Instead of playing whack a mole, maybe stop the failed "war on drugs" that turned our southern neighbor into a narco-state, and stop overthrowing Central American governments, leading to civil wars, failed states and millions of refugees? We could try that.



In Chicago there are these "community colleges" that teach "American culture" to people who come here on a variety of temporary visa statuses, so they can get those changed to temporary Student Visas for taking classes there, and stay in the US as long as they can come up with the tuition. It was like $1500/semester as of a couple years ago. The classes were an absolute joke... like "watch TV and write a list of all the things you saw on the show that were blue."

I don't know how these places continued to operate without getting the hammer brought down on them, but figured they had mob connections or some other source of protection.

All of these "students" work as cab drivers (probably mostly uber and lyft now), nannies, cleaning ladies, or other freelance, cash-only gigs.

They'd never get within 1,000 miles of the border wall, most flying into JFK or ORD from Warsaw, Istanbul, Bucharest, Karachi, etc., but were still here TAKIN' OUR JOBS.

My buddy in SD has a landscaper who is a "student" also ...so long as he's a student, he can stay and work. Apparently the Gov't is taking a harder stance with these situations.

 

[Spartanmack]

Most all the illegals I've known were blonde white chicks from New Zealand and Australia who over-stayed in Vail or Aspen based on their 6-12mo Visa. Many worked for cash under the table or in landscaping jobs that paid cash. None mauled anyone with a hammer to my recollection, although Glen was a bit sketchy and seemed to steal lunch meat from the Deli he worked in next door to my snowboard shop.

maybe that has something to do with the fact that you didn't/don't associate with the illegals who don't speak English and work in kitchens, as landscapers, construction laborers, not to mention drug dealers/traffickers, etc, etc.

When I lived in Aspen there was a bar called Cooper Street Pier - upstairs was mostly Mexican guys shooting pool, downstairs was locals and tourists. Whenever the cops walked in, you'd see about 20 Mexican guys rush down the stairs and out the door. It's the worst kept secret that the majority of the population was illegal - and that was where you'd go to buy coke if that's your thing or Mexican dirt weed. But hey, Olga or Sheila never attacked anyone w/ a hammer, so what's the problem?