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Boston 128 Detroit 112 Final

Getting Crushed at half 63-49. Team can?t hit threes. 5-23.
 
Ivey first Piston guard to have 3 double doubles in first 11 games.
 
This coach needs to be fired. This team plays with no heart or passion.
 
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Ivey looks better than Cade at this point. Still can't believe Duren is 18. This team's bench is almost as bad as it's head coach.
 
Ivey looks better than Cade at this point. Still can't believe Duren is 18. This team's bench is almost as bad as it's head coach.

His start to his career has been better than Cade's start last year. IMO, he has more boom or bust potential than Cade. If there is one player on the team that has superstar potential, it's Ivey.
 
His start to his career has been better than Cade's start last year. IMO, he has more boom or bust potential than Cade. If there is one player on the team that has superstar potential, it's Ivey.

This team just needs SOMEBODY to play defense. Its pathetic to watch them try.

It's like they don't even practice it. I don't know if I've ever seen a team seem so lost defensively. They are very much the Detroit Lions of the hardwood.
 
Killian looked good at times last night. I?m sure next game he?ll resume being invisible on offense, but at least that was one bright spot.
 
This team just needs SOMEBODY to play defense. Its pathetic to watch them try.

It's like they don't even practice it. I don't know if I've ever seen a team seem so lost defensively. They are very much the Detroit Lions of the hardwood.

And 3 teams are worse and another 15 teams within a basket or two/three. Defense across the league blows.
 
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Based on stats he hasn't. It was just one game.

What stats are you looking at? Because if you go beyond old man stats of total points, rebounds, and assists you'd see Ivey is more efficient and turns the ball over less.

And this is all in Ivey's first 20 games. Cade was lost at this point and is still shooting at a low percentage.

It wasn't just one game. Well, maybe for you? Some of us have been watching all season and not just checking box scores.
 
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Killian looked good at times last night. I?m sure next game he?ll resume being invisible on offense, but at least that was one bright spot.

That's the maddening part. He's so young and the talent is there. I think they're doing the right thing by continuing to develop him while they're still trying to find themselves. My opinion would be different if they were trying to contend for the playoffs.
 
What stats are you looking at? Because if you go beyond old man stats of total points, rebounds, and assists you'd see Ivey is more efficient and turns the ball over less.

And this is all in Ivey's first 20 games. Cade was lost at this point and is still shooting at a low percentage.

It wasn't just one game. Well, maybe for you? Some of us have been watching all season and not just checking box scores.

Shooting % was similar before last nights game. TO, Cade 1 extra per game but the balls in his hands more often. They're both good but you can't just say one's better than the other. Also Cade shoots an extra 3 a game, neither are good. Why he shoots that many is either on them or Casey. I have watched games.. But you can't say nothing and then after a terrible game say Cade has been less efficient.

If I had to take an educated guess I would say Cade will be the better player.. He just has to stay within 18-20 feet of the basket or closer..
 
This team plays zero defense. They shoot threes non stop and can?t make a great percentage yet. The tram is a turnover machine. Is the coaches message getting through is all I ask.This team is not playing up to its potential yet. Maybe they are young is the only thing I can think of.
 
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