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burke testing nba waters now..

Why is everyone so angry at kids wanting to play in the NBA? Why shouldn't they get the chance? It's like people want to punish 18 year old kids if they make a mistake, how about helping these kids?

Here's what I would do, players can enter the NBA draft after high school, if they don't get picked they can still go to school at the college of their choice right away. Why punish these kids for checking out the "job market" before they go to college. Now after that I don't think there is anything wrong with the NCAA saying accepting a scholarship is a 3 year commitment and you can't come out until after your 3rd year. This wouldn't punish kids for pursuing their dream right after high school and would help the college game. I mean the one and dones kind of suck, but would anyone really want to see Kentucky return their whole team next year? Davis and Kidd-Gilchrist already look like NBA players toying with little boys, next year would be boring. Both of those guys would have been drafted out of high school in the 1st round.

A kid like Burke would be required to stay in college 3 years and it wouldn't be a stigma for players anymore that they stayed and scouts would be a little more patient with their evaluations of kids. Sullinger is a victim of the system, he stayed 1 year too long and his game is now being picked apart by NBA scouts, if it was a foregone conclusion that he was staying a 3rd year, he could work on his weaknesses before the scouts really even started to scrutinize him too much. Now he has no choice but to come out now, and he lost millions actually by staying that extra year. These kids have more at risk by staying too long than by leaving too early now. For every Marcus Taylor there is a Kalin Lucas, Durrell Summers, or even Jared Sullnger who hurt themselves by staying a year too long.

As for Burke, how is he going to help his draft stock by staying another year? The NBA drafts on potential and 2nd team AA as a freshman indicates a lot of potential.

I'm not mad at kids wanting to play in the NBA. Not at all. It just annoys me that both NCAA and NBA basketball have degraded because of early entries and it's because basketball is my favorite sport. Now, I can't even stand to watch a full NBA game because it is so boring and terrible. 4 teams need to be contracted and players who are not ready need to stop flocking to the NBA. It is diluting the talent pool of both the NCAA and NBA. Contracting teams would also make it more difficult for so many players to leave early because there would not be as many roster spots for the players who are not NBA ready. Get rid of Toronto, Washington, Charlotte, and New Orleans. Those franchises are fucking terrible.
 
That 3yr college thing wouldnt do anything. High schoolers would just go overseas.
 
I think less high school kids would go overseas than you'd think. Going to Europe isin't a simple pack up and go for a 17-18 year old kid. Some of them want to be close to their families.
 
I think less high school kids would go overseas than you'd think. Going to Europe isin't a simple pack up and go for a 17-18 year old kid. Some of them want to be close to their families.

The one kid that did it, Brandon Jennings, said it wasn't a good experience. He was never paid on time and really didn't get the playing time he expected.
 
Didnt another kidtry it to. His last name was Tyler. It was a disaster. He had no understanding of all the cultural differences and ended up being cut and sent home.
 
As for Burke, how is he going to help his draft stock by staying another year? The NBA drafts on potential and 2nd team AA as a freshman indicates a lot of potential.

By improving on the areas in which he is weak, thus increasing his potential in the eyes of scouts. It's not brain surgery.
 
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From mgoblog...

"Burke should hear an official word from the NBA advisory committee in two days"
 
I'm not mad at kids wanting to play in the NBA. Not at all. It just annoys me that both NCAA and NBA basketball have degraded because of early entries and it's because basketball is my favorite sport. Now, I can't even stand to watch a full NBA game because it is so boring and terrible. 4 teams need to be contracted and players who are not ready need to stop flocking to the NBA. It is diluting the talent pool of both the NCAA and NBA. Contracting teams would also make it more difficult for so many players to leave early because there would not be as many roster spots for the players who are not NBA ready. Get rid of Toronto, Washington, Charlotte, and New Orleans. Those franchises are fucking terrible.

yep. I don't see it changing anytime soon either. despite the expansion of the league & the length of the season, all the owners are still making plenty of money from the fans (aka, saps) and taxpayers (who they extort new stadiums & tax breaks from), and therefore have no interest in change.

these kids are sold a pipe dream at basketball camps. The number of them who will make substantial money in the pros are much smaller than the number who expect to. a couple million doesn't go very far when you factor in taxes, your agent's cut, and all the dumb things they buy with it.
 
The problem really is just because you have the game to make a few million playing ball it doesnt mean you have the maturity to handle it. And a lot of these kids still have all the hangers on from the high school days with their hands out.
 
Why are these kids subject to different rules than everyone else? So we can watch them help our team be better? So we can feel like the basketball we are watching has more integrity? That's a bunch of bullshit. The system is set up to benefit the school and the coaches at the expense of the kids.

You know what would actually be fair and just? If these student athletes had the same freedom that any other student on scholarship did. If I'm on academic scholarship, you know what? I can interview for jobs and get an agent whenever I want and still keep my scholarship and come back to school in the fall. What would be best for these kids and the most fair would be for Trey Burke to be able to enter the draft and if he doesn't like where he's picked or not picked at all then he can play ball at Michigan this fall. Why not? What would be so tragic about that? The kid would have the same choices that any other student under scholarship at Michigan has and would be able to make the best choice for himself. But in the end Trey Burke's freedom to choose and his well being are secondary to Michigan Basketball, the NCAA, and the almighty dollar that rules all of it. We act like because the kid plays ball for our school we own him now and he owes us something.

As for the NBA getting watered down, each team can fix that immediately, don't draft players that will water you down. I for one think the NBA game right now is pretty entertaining, the game is so much faster than it's ever been and over the last several years it seems like the league has learned how to shoot again, all of these guys are great shooter now again.
 
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Teams in the NBA can't fix it immediately unless they remove a few teams. Just not enough NBA ready players to do that. Other than a handful of guys, the superstars of today's NBA suck King Kong's balls compared to the "Jordan Era".
 
Why are these kids subject to different rules than everyone else? So we can watch them help our team be better? So we can feel like the basketball we are watching has more integrity? That's a bunch of bullshit. The system is set up to benefit the school and the coaches at the expense of the kids.

You know what would actually be fair and just? If these student athletes had the same freedom that any other student on scholarship did. If I'm on academic scholarship, you know what? I can interview for jobs and get an agent whenever I want and still keep my scholarship and come back to school in the fall. What would be best for these kids and the most fair would be for Trey Burke to be able to enter the draft and if he doesn't like where he's picked or not picked at all then he can play ball at Michigan this fall. Why not? What would be so tragic about that? The kid would have the same choices that any other student under scholarship at Michigan has and would be able to make the best choice for himself. But in the end Trey Burke's freedom to choose and his well being are secondary to Michigan Basketball, the NCAA, and the almighty dollar that rules all of it. We act like because the kid plays ball for our school we own him now and he owes us something.

As for the NBA getting watered down, each team can fix that immediately, don't draft players that will water you down. I for one think the NBA game right now is pretty entertaining, the game is so much faster than it's ever been and over the last several years it seems like the league has learned how to shoot again, all of these guys are great shooter now again.

Because every player drafted by Toronto would go back to school.
 
And it was once a very light PG draft. Now, some big time guys are starting to put their name in (both kids from Washington), and I think his stock is getting pushed lower and lower. Maybe that's just the optimist in me speaking, but right now, it's fairly obvious he's a 2nd round talent at best, and he will be washed away in the muck in a few years.
 
...and he will be washed away in the muck in a few years.

I don't agree with that. I think he'd improve his draft stock and be better served overall by returning, but I don't believe leaving now would completely ruin him.
 
I gotta be honest I didnt actually think he would leave. Someone gave this kid some bad advice but I wish him the best.
 
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