Cleveland Baseball Team to Change

[tinselwolverine]

This is overall one of the better threads in recent memory. I saw a guy in an Indians? shirt Saturday at a golf shop and briefed him on the name change. I am not reticent to comment on people?s shirts, especially when sports-oriented. He was really non-plussed about the name ?Guardians? until I offered the rationale in some detail, using the information from this thread. I?m not sure how serious an Indians? fan he was, because he had never heard of Mike Hargrove.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tGm_JajqLo

But you did stay the scientifically proven safe six feet away from the guy whilst all this was going on, right?

 

[Spartanmack]

That was an epic event that I witnessed on TV, and the dissatisfaction of Kell and Kaline. I bet that George Kell said ?cooler heads prevail? more than once, but I can?t recall.

From Mike Veeck: ?The great thing was all the kids were stoned,? he said. When asked to explain, Veeck said marijuana?s effects were milder than those of beer. ?Had we had drunks to deal with, then we would have had some trouble,? he said. ?The kids were really docile.?

Link

Even Dave Dombrowski was an integral part of the event.

?Above the field, Hemond?s private box sheltered the wife and children of Don Kessinger, the White Sox? manager, but fans tried to climb inside.

Dave Dombrowski, now the president of the Tigers, was a 22-year-old assistant to Hemond (WS?s GM). ?My duty was to keep people from crawling in there,? Dombrowski said. Harry Caray, then a raucous White Sox announcer, urged calm over the public-address system.

I don't remember if I saw it live on TV or saw News coverage of it. It happened a little over a year after we moved from suburban Cleveland to suburban Detroit. I was 9 at the time so I probably wasn't watching live.

 

[byco42]

But you did stay the scientifically proven safe six feet away from the guy whilst all this was going on, right?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Which Paul is that?

 

[Michchamp]

Which Paul is that?

oh shit don't get him started on that. ugh

 

[byco42]

Which Paul is that?

That's Faul. Billy. William.

 

[tinselwolverine]

oh shit don't get him started on that. ugh

I don?t know?I think byco may be onto something.

All the pictures of Paul before byco claims the replacement happened, Paul pretty much looks the same.

And then after that, Paul started looking different.

He started looking older.

And that change continued.

 

[byco42]

I don?t know?I think byco may be onto something.

All the pictures of Paul before byco claims the replacement happened, Paul pretty much looks the same.

And then after that, Paul started looking different.

He started looking older.

And that change continued.

-30- I can start a new thread if interested, but you have not expressed it previously.

 

[byco42]

Seems that there is a roller derby team in CLE called the Guardians that is fiercely protective of its name. Not sure there?s much of a case, since the ?Giants? ?Cardinals? are shared nicknames.

Not to mention all the identical nicknames there are in college athletics.

 

[Michchamp]

Seems that there is a roller derby team in CLE called the Guardians that is fiercely protective of its name. Not sure there?s much of a case, since the ?Giants? ?Cardinals? are shared nicknames.

Not to mention all the identical nicknames there are in college athletics.

that's hilarious... So was the Cleveland Baseball team owner was TOO CHEAP to pay his lawyers $3K -$5K to clear the trademarks on a BILLION DOLLAR TEAM before he changed the name? Seems like that should've been addressed before announcing the name change, and giving some roller derby girls a high profile chance to hold your name for ransom, if they do it.

 

[tinselwolverine]

that's hilarious... So was the Cleveland Baseball team owner was TOO CHEAP to pay his lawyers $3K -$5K to clear the trademarks on a BILLION DOLLAR TEAM before he changed the name? Seems like that should've been addressed before announcing the name change, and giving some roller derby girls a high profile chance to hold your name for ransom, if they do it.

Yeah, they?re in a jam.

The whole thing could be a major blocker.

If they had cleared the trademark, they would have lapped the thing easy.

 

[byco42]

that's hilarious... So was the Cleveland Baseball team owner was TOO CHEAP to pay his lawyers $3K -$5K to clear the trademarks on a BILLION DOLLAR TEAM before he changed the name? Seems like that should've been addressed before announcing the name change, and giving some roller derby girls a high profile chance to hold your name for ransom, if they do it.

It seems that the baseball team filed for a trademark application four days before the roller derby team did.

But that isn?t even the whole story ? Link

 

[tinselwolverine]

It seems that the baseball team filed for a trademark application four days before the roller derby team did.

But that isn?t even the whole story ? Link

Maybe they should go with the Cleveland Tards.

Because they were tardy to get to the name; and they went about the whole name change process was retarded.

 

[Michchamp]

It seems that the baseball team filed for a trademark application four days before the roller derby team did.

But that isn?t even the whole story ? Link

I'm not sure how far down this rabbit hole I want to go, but I think from the description in the article that's just the mark specific to merchandise. I saw elsewhere the Guardians roller derby team already had a mark on the team name, but it was expired (although still in use). Trademarks expire every so often (I think 5 years or maybe 10) unless you pay the renewal fee. I think that still doesn't damn the roller derby team here, because there are "first to use" arguments that courts will entertain when resolving mark disputes

The roller derby team could make this incredibly expensive for the Cleveland Baseball Team if they want to. And if they can afford a competent patent/trademark attorney.

the roller derby team doesn't see too on-the-ball either. they wouldn't have an expired mark, and would have slapped the Baseball Team with a threatened complaint (and press release about it...) the day the news came out.

 

[Michchamp]

the first thing I learned when clearing trademarks was "before you do anything else, just google the damn name and see what comes up"

which either the baseball team didn't do, or figured "oh, it's just a roller derby club, we'll crush them like a bug if they complain"

 

[zyxt9]

The web domain could be a big payday for the roller derby team. The current record payout for a domain name I believe is $30.1 million based on quick Google search. Since baseball teams deal in the billion dollar range, this could set a new record.

I think Cleveland Kleptos has a nice ring to it.

Or maybe since spelling has become obsolete in the internet era, drop the u and become the Gardians???

 

[byco42]

The web domain could be a big payday for the roller derby team. The current record payout for a domain name I believe is $30.1 million based on quick Google search. Since baseball teams deal in the billion dollar range, this could set a new record.

I think Cleveland Kleptos has a nice ring to it.

Or maybe since spelling has become obsolete in the internet era, drop the u and become the Gardians???

I don?t think this is relevant, since all mlb names are prefixed mlb.com/team

When you type mlb.com/guardians, it redirects to the Indians? page on mlb.com

 

[tinselwolverine]

The web domain could be a big payday for the roller derby team. The current record payout for a domain name I believe is $30.1 million based on quick Google search. Since baseball teams deal in the billion dollar range, this could set a new record.

I think Cleveland Kleptos has a nice ring to it.

Or maybe since spelling has become obsolete in the internet era, drop the u and become the Gardians???

Voice.com.

Sex.com sold for almost the same amount - but it had to happen twice to get there.

Which makes sense, because you want it to happen (at least) twice.

Because it?s sex.

Who would be surprised if it happens again?

Because it?s sex.

 

[Spartanmack]

Voice.com.

Sex.com sold for almost the same amount - but it had to happen twice to get there.

Which makes sense, because you want it to happen (at least) twice.

Because it?s sex.

Who would be surprised if it happens again?

Because it?s sex.

My brother-in-law's friend started an indoor soccer facility in his hometown called Soccer Zone or something like that. When he applied for the domain name he found out someone had already purchased every big sport's ...zone.com domain. To incentivize real business owners to buy the domains, he hosted hard core porn on each of the sites. His friend certainly didn't pay millions for the domain - I'm not even sure if he or some other soccer zone ended up buying the domain but it's no longer a porn site.

 

[tinselwolverine]

My brother-in-law's friend started an indoor soccer facility in his hometown called Soccer Zone or something like that. When he applied for the domain name he found out someone had already purchased every big sport's ...zone.com domain. To incentivize real business owners to buy the domains, he hosted hard core porn on each of the sites. His friend certainly didn't pay millions for the domain - I'm not even sure if he or some other soccer zone ended up buying the domain but it's no longer a porn site.

That would be an easy fix in that sitch:

(Name of)HometownSoccerZone.com

SoccerZone.com would be good for a giant national distributor.