Cohen to Prison

[TheVictors]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.....




And throwing dotard tiny hands under the bus on the way out of the courthouse.


Trump is such an incompetent assclown and wannabe tough guy. Funny how the legal system operates just fine and isn't swayed by lies and tweets.


:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

 

[tigermud]

Hard to disagree I just wish all this justice was applied equally under the law to the other side of the Russia collusion connections within the DNC and Fusion and everywhere those investigations would lead as well. It's all just a little bit too one sided and it's not right. I mean the house reps have it all but nothing will be done about it. hell some of them even got immunity from what I hear. unreal. how bout we send em all to prison?


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...istleblowers-testify-about-tax-fraud-pay-play

 

[tigermud]

Former FEC Commissioner Hans Von Spakovsky debunked the argument that President Donald Trump broke campaign finance laws by paying women he allegedly had affairs with prior to becoming president.

The president’s former lawyer, Michael Cohen, was sentenced to three years in jail on Wednesday for a litany of crimes, including making an illegal campaign contribution amounting to $130,000 to Stormy Daniels, who alleges she slept with Trump in 2006, so she would keep quiet about the affair.

Despite the guilty plea, Spakovsky said that Trump should not be worried because it would have to be a “campaign-related expense” for the contribution break any campaign finance laws.

He also pointed out that the only other time the Justice Department tried to say payments like these were campaign-related expenses was with John Edwards. Donations to Edwards’ campaign actually went to paying his mistress, a woman who worked for the campaign and ended up having his child. (RELATED: Trump Hits Back At Michael Cohen, Justice Department Claims)


A jury, however, ruled that Edwards’ donations were not a campaign-related expense.
Spakovsky went on to say that Trump has nothing to worry about and that the U.S. attorney’s office is being “overly aggressive” in their pursuit of the matter.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/12/coven-trump-campaign-finance-spakovsky/

 

[Spartanmack]

If I recall correctly, I think Dershowitz said something very similar around the time the payment was first made public and the media were jumping all over the campaign finance violation.

 

[sggatecl]

The only 'campaign finance violation' leg they have to stand on is why all of the sudden after decades of banging porn stars and playmates did Trump feel the need to pay a couple off? I think that's the case they make and I think it's a pretty poor one if you're looking to nail a sitting president to the wall. If Mueller has nothing else, Dems are going to be really disappointed.

But I also think that this being the first shot fired in 'Individual 1's' direction, we haven't reached the conclusion of Mueller Time.

*edit* I just read about the AMI deal more in Gulo's post in the other thread. I don't feel so confident in my assertion any more.

 

[TheVictors]

If you don't delve into the Twitter play by play, the ongoing investigation seems to be on track and successful. You have three close Trumpettes in jail/prison and a dozen others who may face the same.


This is completely unprecedented for a sitting President and shouldn't be acceptable to the American people.

 

[Michchamp]

If you don't delve into the Twitter play by play, the ongoing investigation seems to be on track and successful. You have three close Trumpettes in jail/prison and a dozen others who may face the same.


This is completely unprecedented for a sitting President and shouldn't be acceptable to the American people.

no, it's more important to focus on Bill and Hillary Clinton. what are they up to? i bet it's no good...

they're all-powerful and behind every crime committed in these here United States, no doubt.

 

[Gulo Blue]

If you don't delve into the Twitter play by play, the ongoing investigation seems to be on track and successful. You have three close Trumpettes in jail/prison and a dozen others who may face the same.


This is completely unprecedented for a sitting President and shouldn't be acceptable to the American people.

Watergate investigation was 2 years, 3 months when Ford pardoned Nixon. With Clinton's impeachment, the investigation started before Clinton actually met Lewinsky. It was an investigation into the finances of Whitewater that evolved over 4 years to be about lying about sexual relations.

 

[TheVictors]

exactly. the nonsense that this investigation - "if there were any truth to it, would have found something by now!" - is just Fox News speaking to the idiots who watch that channel. Mueller and team must have a ton of damaging information with all these cooperating now ...if it were "peanut stuff," a "witch hunt" or "fake news" why then would Manafort, Flynn, Popadop and Cohen all cooperate to willingly??


Obviously DTJr, Ivanka and pretty boy Jared would have more personal loyalty to Trump in terms of cooperating with Mueller, but otherwise everyone else has ...because the stakes of not doing so must be pretty high.


Trump is scum, does business with scum, isn't fit for the Presidency and is a compulsive liar.

 

[tigermud]

If you don't delve into the Twitter play by play, the ongoing investigation seems to be on track and successful. You have three close Trumpettes in jail/prison and a dozen others who may face the same.


This is completely unprecedented for a sitting President and shouldn't be acceptable to the American people.

let me know when we have another option that has trumps same tough stance on free fair balanced trade, boarder security legitimately seeking to resolve the illegal immigration problem, and doesn't put global interest above our own first and I'll support that person. Until then Trump is the greatest president of my lifetime thus far.

 

[tomdalton22]

let me know when we have another option that has trumps same tough stance on free fair balanced trade, boarder security legitimately seeking to resolve the illegal immigration problem, and doesn't put global interest above our own first and I'll support that person. Until then Trump is the greatest president of my lifetime thus far.

How old are you?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Watergate investigation was 2 years, 3 months when Ford pardoned Nixon. With Clinton's impeachment, the investigation started before Clinton actually met Lewinsky. It was an investigation into the finances of Whitewater that evolved over 4 years to be about lying about sexual relations.

Off the top of my head without looking it up I?m pretty sure that all of Halderman, Erlichman, John Dean, Howard Hunt and G.Gordon Libby Ended up doing some jail time as a result of the Watergate investigation.

Jim Guy Tucker was convicted and sentenced to four years probation as a result of Whitewater. Susan Mcdougal did 18 months in jail.

 

[tigermud]

How old are you?

I voted for Perot and still think he would have been a good choice. I do recall giving Bill the benefit of the doubt back then though and was hopeful it would work out. He was a likeable guy anyway. It didn't, NAFTA was a disaster. The repodems left the middle class in a ditch and trump is the result of that vacuum. If the next guy or gal wants to continue his positions on it all i'd be just fine with that.

https://media.infowars.com/videos/34cdca00-fd79-4f4f-b681-4f013d609047.mp4

yes the answer is yes he was right.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Off the top of my head without looking it up I?m pretty sure that all of Halderman, Erlichman, John Dean, Howard Hunt and G.Gordon Libby Ended up doing some jail time as a result of the Watergate investigation.

Jim Guy Tucker was convicted and sentenced to four years probation as a result of Whitewater. Susan Mcdougal did 18 months in jail.

Impressive. Off the top of my head, I can only name Liddy, who I vaguely recall had a radio show after he got out.

 

[Spartanmack]

Here's a great Fox News piece on how effective the investigation has been.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/15/676765398/the-russia-investigations-a-case-still-unproven

I believe the original title was "The Russia Investigations: An Unfinished Case Looks Weaker than Ever"

Those who are claiming the Mueller investigation is working are the people who simply want Trump out of office no matter what. The investigation has so far found no evidence of collusion and the crime they're putting Cohen in prison for is the political equivalent of jay walking.

And for the record, nobody cares what the Clintons are up to now, that's just deflection from hypocrites who either can't see or won't admit there is a clear double standard at play here. It's not whataboutism to point out the more egregious crimes previous administrations who are part of the political elite establishment got away with. Many of these crooks who are anti-Trump bandwagoners loved the guy when he was stuffing their campaign coffers with cash.

this isn't a defense of Trump - no one should be surprised that they investigation has gone way off the rails and possibly found shady dealings from his business ventures in the past. The idea that this makes him somehow uniquely unworthy of the presidency is simple hypocrisy. This is a witch hunt.

 

[Michchamp]

OoooOOOH LOOK AT ME!

i watch NPR now, not Fox News.

 

[sggatecl]

this isn't a defense of Trump - no one should be surprised that they investigation has gone way off the rails and possibly found shady dealings from his business ventures in the past. The idea that this makes him somehow uniquely unworthy of the presidency is simple hypocrisy. This is a witch hunt.

Wasn't the precedent for going off the rails on an investigation set with Starr and the Whitewater/Lewinsky stuff? As long as crooks are being busted, I don't give a shit. These are the dirty deeds that always go unpunished. If they made tigermuds wet dream come true and found similiar violations of the Clinton Foundation, I'd welcome it. Fuck em all. Embrace the purge. It's Mueller Time.

If you consider lying to Congress, making campaign finance violations, tax violations, and lying to banks all 'political jay walking equivalents' then I think it shows how much this show of justice was necessary.

Republicans recovered pretty quickly after Nixon when they held him accountable for being a fuck head. I don't know why they're so reluctant to do the same now. I mean I do know, it just bums me out.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Here's a great Fox News piece on how effective the investigation has been.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/15/676765398/the-russia-investigations-a-case-still-unproven

I believe the original title was "The Russia Investigations: An Unfinished Case Looks Weaker than Ever"

Those who are claiming the Mueller investigation is working are the people who simply want Trump out of office no matter what. The investigation has so far found no evidence of collusion and the crime they're putting Cohen in prison for is the political equivalent of jay walking.

And for the record, nobody cares what the Clintons are up to now, that's just deflection from hypocrites who either can't see or won't admit there is a clear double standard at play here. It's not whataboutism to point out the more egregious crimes previous administrations who are part of the political elite establishment got away with. Many of these crooks who are anti-Trump bandwagoners loved the guy when he was stuffing their campaign coffers with cash.

this isn't a defense of Trump - no one should be surprised that they investigation has gone way off the rails and possibly found shady dealings from his business ventures in the past. The idea that this makes him somehow uniquely unworthy of the presidency is simple hypocrisy. This is a witch hunt.

Sure. Collusion hasn't been proven as far as we know. How long have I been saying on this board that it's more likely to be about something other than collusion. You have to give Trump credit for branding this as a collusion investigation. His fans zero right in on that.

 

[Gulo Blue]

The idea that this makes him somehow uniquely unworthy of the presidency is simple hypocrisy. This is a witch hunt.

Not uniquely unqualified. Just unqualified.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Wasn't the precedent for going off the rails on an investigation set with Starr and the Whitewater/Lewinsky stuff?

You mean lying about your sex life isn't a standard part of every real estate scam?


It would be incredible if an investigation into Trump's sex life payoffs led to an impeachment related to some real estate scam (which would surprise nobody.) It would be the reverse Clinton.