Comey

[tigermud]

yeah ...you see that privilege is null when the communications are in furtherance of a crime or not related to legal matters being handled in the role of attorney. so lawyers - actual attorneys protecting clients - still enjoy the exact same privilege. In order to get a warrant in the first place - because of the sensitivity towards attorney-client privilege - you have to overcome a higher standard than a typical warrant. Judges don't like issuing them unless they have to ...and this judge had to.

"I'm going to arm myself with an AR-15 and go shoot people on the 16th street mall after lunch, but you're my lawyer so you can't say anything because of attorney-client"



not how that works.

remains to be seen, lets see the GD evidence already after over a fucking year!!!@!#
bunch of GD bullshet if ya ask me. Sessions should never have recused himself, they played him right into that one.

 

[tigermud]

well you're whining about your weed investments because of sessions so I'd assume you would object to a sitting president violating securities laws by slandering a publicly traded company and its CEO for personal reasons.

yup not losing any sleep over that either, dumped em all shortly after he was named AG already knew what that meant for that sector. Would have preferred to keep them all is all.

 

[TheVictors]

yup not losing any sleep over that either.

:lmao:

 

[TheVictors]

remains to be seen, lets see the GD evidence already after over a fucking year!!!@!#
bunch of GD bullshet if ya ask me. Sessions should never have recused himself, they played him right into that one.

awwwwww.

 

[tigermud]

awwwwww.

all in due time.

 

[Gulo Blue]

But the OP was asking if the public nature of Comey's comments and book were helping Trump position he and the FBI as biased and "out to get him" and I don't think so. I think Comey - in the court of public opinion - is sticking up for himself while the legal/justice process plays out. Trump can blather all he wants about a "slimeball" he "barely knows" and a certain, stupid segment of the population believes him (and believes in pizza parlors and pedophile rings orchestrated by Hillary Clinton), but I don't think Comey being more public is helping convince intelligent people that he's got an agenda.

I have a friend who is very right-leaning and he accused me yesterday of "falling for Comey's PR bullshit ...his agenda to sell his book and profit off of Trump and his bias, etc. etc." and it was almost unbelievable to me that he'd assert such nonsense. In part, because, when it was "But Her Emails!" he was a very pro-Comey/let due process run its course/pro-FBI Republican.

I saw a book quote that mentioned Trump being orange except around the eyes with a comment about checking the size of his hand. Funny for us or for comedians to pick on, but I think it's unprofessional pandering to the left from someone in his position.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Clinton he described as the smartest by far of the three and the most personable.

Interesting. Greenspan said Clinton and Nixon were the two smartest he worked for.

 

[Michchamp]

Interesting. Greenspan said Clinton and Nixon were the two smartest he worked for.

the lawyers...

 

[Michchamp]

Yeah, attorney-client privilege isn't applicable when the attorney himself is being investigated for breaking the law.

it would only be applicable if they were looking for things to charge a client with, and even then there are limits and exceptions to the privilege.

 

[TheVictors]

I saw a book quote that mentioned Trump being orange except around the eyes with a comment about checking the size of his hand. Funny for us or for comedians to pick on, but I think it's unprofessional pandering to the left from someone in his position.

I have not read any excerpts and won't be reading the book. Everything breaking now on the story and covered by other outlets. I didn't care to read Fire and Fury or whatever that Bannon book was called.

Similar premise - profiting from the unprecedented drama that is Trump.

 

[TheVictors]

Interesting. Greenspan said Clinton and Nixon were the two smartest he worked for.

I've heard that said about Nixon as well.

I've also heard Gerald Ford was very smart but had the one or two public trips ups that stuck with him ever after.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I've heard that said about Nixon as well.

I've also heard Gerald Ford was very smart but had the one or two public trips ups that stuck with him ever after.

Greenspan called Ford the most 'normal' I think. If I had the book handy I might double check that though.

found quotes online

“Jerry Ford was as close to normal as you get in a president, but he never was elected. There’s a constitutional amendment that I’ve been pushing for years without success. It says, ‘Anyone willing to do what is required to become president of the United States is thereby barred from taking that office.’ I’m only half joking.”

"He always understood what he knew and what he didn't know. … Ford was secure in himself — probably one of those rare people who would actually score normal in psychological tests."

 

[Michchamp]

Nothing about Greenspan's track record suggest his judgment might be a little off!

 

[Michchamp]

The more I learned about Gerry Ford, the less I liked.

so, in the interest of being a good Michigan football fan, I stopped learning about Gerry Ford.

 

[TheVictors]

I was just trying to get someone to accuse me of MICHIGAN bias in relation to Ford. lol

 

[Gulo Blue]

Nothing about Greenspan's track record suggest his judgment might be a little off!

I think admitting to that mistake in judgement was a sign of pretty good judgement. Most people won't change their views and admit it in public.

Not to mention, the assumption he admitted to being wrong about seems like a really safe assumption.

 

[Michchamp]

I think admitting to that mistake in judgement was a sign of pretty good judgement. Most people won't change their views and admit it in public.

Not to mention, the assumption he admitted to being wrong about seems like a really safe assumption.

Greenspan announcing that he erred by assuming "the market" would take care of itself, after presiding over the biggest economic crash since 1929 is akin to Bill Martin going sailing and ending up with RichRod because he assumed the coaching search would take care of itself.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Greenspan announcing that he erred by assuming "the market" would take care of itself, after presiding over the biggest economic crash since 1929 is akin to Bill Martin going sailing and ending up with RichRod because he assumed the coaching search would take care of itself.

What?

What he assumed was that very wealthy people cared enough about their money that they would be more motivated to police the risks to their investments than government regulators, and that with more information available than ever before, they were more capable than people in the 1920's.

 

[Michchamp]

What?

What he assumed was that very wealthy people cared enough about their money that they would be more motivated to police the risks to their investments than government regulators, and that with more information available than ever before, they were more capable than people in the 1920's.

If he assumed that... he was dumb. He of all people should've known better.

He kept his head in the sand.

 

[Spartanmack]

Anybody else (that thinks Trump the worst) think Comey has gone too far and too public with his Trump criticism? If Trump wants to make arguments about people being biased against him in the FBI, Comey is helping him at this point.

he's not helping, he's proving him absolutely right well beyond the shadow of any doubt. Comey basically admitted several times that he allowed political considerations to impact his decision making. He directed Hillary to read certain chapters of his book to show that he had nothing but good intentions and said in the interview that he reopened the email case because he thought she would win and didn't want her to be viewed as an illegitimate President.

You need bob and turok level hatred of Trump to not see that the FBI and DOJ have been politicized and weaponized against Trump and probably Republicans/conservatives in general - just like Obama's IRS.