Dixville Notch and Millsfield Vote at Midnight Tuesday the 9th of February

[Gulo Blue]

the second one is false because it relies on that fallacy that supposes all wealthy people work hard for their money, which is far from true. but it's hard to justify inequality without it, so it will not die am easy death

Oh, come on, it's funny.

 

[Spartanmack]

Oh, come on, it's funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYje57V_BY

 

[Spartanmack]

the second one is false because it relies on that fallacy that supposes all wealthy people work hard for their money, which is far from true. but it's hard to justify inequality without it, so it will not die am easy death

Far from true? So what percentage of wealthy people don't work hard for their money? Where do you get your data from? Who defines what what constitutes hard work (Melissa Harris Perry?) and what the threshold is for determining whether it was hard enough to say the fruits of that work were justly earned? And do all these people that just fall into wealth work less hard than the people Bernie wants to give their confiscated wealth to?

It's not false anyway. It definitely doesn't rely on whether or not someone worked hard for their wealth. Your system of confiscation and redistribution however, relies on the fallacy that someone who didn't earn something is entitled to it simply because they exist. Then you create other fallacies to support it like, if someone didn't work hard for what they have (who gets to decide whether someone worked hard or not, anyway?) then they're no more entitled to it than someone who didn't work at all for it. The hypocrisy is astounding - your system of "social justice" or whatever you call it is amorality (at best, probably more accurate to call it immoral) masquerading as altruism.

 

[Michchamp]

Oh, come on, it's funny.

i get that he intended it to be a joke.

 

[Spartanmack]

i get that he intended it to be a joke.

again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYje57V_BY

 

[sggatecl]

As someone who lived in a car for the first 4 years of his life, I resent the idea that anyone that has little to nothing doesn't deserve better. I may have climbed out of that hole but many aren't as fortunate and it isn't because of whether they're deserving or not.

The circle jerk theory that only lazy, undeserving people benefit from tax driven welfare programs is one of the most infuriating things I hear. I don't expect well to do people that were born into a good situation to understand but I also would expect them not to judge something they have no clue about.

 

[Spartanmack]

As someone who lived in a car for the first 4 years of his life, I resent the idea that anyone that has little to nothing doesn't deserve better. I may have climbed out of that hole but many aren't as fortunate and it isn't because of whether they're deserving or not.

The circle jerk theory that only lazy, undeserving people benefit from tax driven welfare programs is one of the most infuriating things I hear. I don't expect well to do people that were born into a good situation to understand but I also would expect them not to judge something they have no clue about.

Nobody is saying f the poor and there shouldn't be assistance. Nor did anyone say all poor people are poor because they're lazy - that b.s. is just disingenuous partisan propaganda - like turd's assertion that a great many wealthy people didn't work hard. This is about degrees and Bernie's plan goes way too far particularly for a country facing a sovereign debt crisis that will make the .com and real estate bubbles look like child's play.

 

[tigermud]

1,400 new trump supporters in Indiana?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3ttxGMQOrY#action=share

another good example of why he has so much support, Bernie going to do anything about crap trade?

 

[tomdalton22]

As someone who lived in a car for the first 4 years of his life, I resent the idea that anyone that has little to nothing doesn't deserve better. I may have climbed out of that hole but many aren't as fortunate and it isn't because of whether they're deserving or not.

The circle jerk theory that only lazy, undeserving people benefit from tax driven welfare programs is one of the most infuriating things I hear. I don't expect well to do people that were born into a good situation to understand but I also would expect them not to judge something they have no clue about.

I think there are more people that are lazy and just live off the system vs. the people that would rather work hard to better their situations.

 

[Michchamp]

I think there are more people that are lazy and just live off the system vs. the people that would rather work hard to better their situations.

you think that? you don't actually know for sure though and have no interest in finding out.

 

[Michchamp]

1,400 new trump supporters in Indiana?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3ttxGMQOrY#action=share

another good example of why he has so much support, Bernie going to do anything about crap trade?

once he builds his "wall" to keep out migrant farm workers and cleaning ladies, I'm sure those jobs will come back.

 

[tigermud]

once he builds his "wall" to keep out migrant farm workers and cleaning ladies, I'm sure those jobs will come back.

naw those are just to quick no brainier items will take more than that, nafta gatt, tpp all huge mistakes, trump won't let the one sided crap stand and it's just what we need

IMO of course, I like Bernie on half of his positions, problem is can't stand the other half of his positions

 

[sggatecl]

I think there are more people that are lazy and just live off the system vs. the people that would rather work hard to better their situations.

I think that's bullshit but to each their own.

 

[Thumb]

1,400 new trump supporters in Indiana?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3ttxGMQOrY#action=share

another good example of why he has so much support, Bernie going to do anything about crap trade?

A good example of why he has so much support are lots of people in this country are fucking morons. Xenophobic fucking morons who are prepared to believe a guy with no real answers to anything as of yet would be the best choice. BTW that "shrewd businessman" has filed for bankruptcy protection a shitton of times.

 

[Thumb]

I think that's bullshit but to each their own.

Agreed.

 

[tigermud]

A good example of why he has so much support are lots of people in this country are fucking morons. Xenophobic fucking morons who are prepared to believe a guy with no real answers to anything as of yet would be the best choice. BTW that "shrewd businessman" has filed for bankruptcy protection a shitton of times.

Thanks for your opinion.. Trump, Full blown socialism or just another globalist.. the choice isn't that difficult for me

 

[grandy]

Thanks for your opinion.. Trump, Full blown socialism or just another globalist.. the choice isn't that difficult for me

Except Sanders wouldn't bring full blown socialism. Anyone who worries about this severely overestimates the power a president has.

In fact, I'd argue that if Sanders gets elected we'd have four years of no legislative progress from either side.

 

[Thumb]

Thanks for your opinion.. Trump, Full blown socialism or just another globalist.. the choice isn't that difficult for me

I like how you made that list, Trump, Full blown socialism, or just another globalist....

To be fair you should have said, Xenophobic misogynistic egomaniacal bat-shit crazy guy with terrible hair, Full blown socialism or just another globalist.

 

[Thumb]

Except Sanders wouldn't bring full blown socialism. Anyone who worries about this severely overestimates the power a president has.

In fact, I'd argue that if Sanders gets elected we'd have four years of no legislative progress from either side.

Not to mention most people have no idea what socialism actually means. FDR would have been considered 10x the socialist Sanders is if he were running today.

 

[sggatecl]

I think people underestimate how many of Sander's supporters aren't with him for the policies he wants to create but for the policies that he'd shit on before he'd let them come to pass.