Dumbass Infowars interviewer gets rekt by giggly socialist cutie

[Michchamp]

LOL, Inforwars is so dumb. They took this off their site, so the interviewee reposted it on twitter.

https://twitter.com/nobody_stop_me/status/991741815765241857

they can't even do ambush journalism right. and their "gotcha facts" are all wrong.

 

[sggatecl]

"Eating the rich"

lol...She just straight trolled the interviewer. Fantastic.

 

[sggatecl]

The vicious cycle of partisan politic debating:

(D) "Australia took all the guns away, it worked great."

(R) "That's not America, you can't make that comparison, they're not the same situation."

5 minutes later:

(R) "Venezuela uses socialism and they're eating rats. Socialism is bad."

(D) "That's not America, you can't make that comparison, they're not the same situation."

 

[Michchamp]

I like how they're like "THE ONE PERCENT SUPPORTS SOCIALISM!"

and she goes "wait which ones?"

and Infowars is like "uh... HAVE YOU HEARD OF VENEZUELA?"

 

[TheVictors]

Where did it go so wrong? At what point was there such an appetite for conspiracy and lies like Infowars? Why is there any credence given to the fucking National Enquirer now that Trump is President? Are Americans really as stupid in general as it appears or is this massive propaganda machine some sort of profit-generating business venture?

It's shameful. All the lying, the hypocrisy and "whataboutism" drawn on lines of predisposed views and self-fulfilling sound bites and outright mistruths.


I mean, what the fuck? When are the adults going to regain control of the country?

 

[Spartanmack]

The vicious cycle of partisan politic debating:

(D) "Australia took all the guns away, it worked great."

(R) "That's not America, you can't make that comparison, they're not the same situation."

5 minutes later:

(R) "Venezuela uses socialism and they're eating rats. Socialism is bad."

(D) "That's not America, you can't make that comparison, they're not the same situation."

I can't watch the video - blocked at work so I can't say anything about what's in the video. I will say though, this isn't the argument people make in response to the Australian style gun grab. The point usually made is that Australia had so few mass shootings before the confiscation that it's effect is not obvious. They also make the case that the gun grab did nothing to reduce the gun related homicide rate or the suicide rate (overall or by gun).


https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/10/australia-gun-control-obama-america/


But if the argument is that America is different and that difference is the scale - Australia confiscated somewhere between 650k and 1mm guns (about 1/5 of all guns). There are ~310mm guns in the US, 60x that in Oz plus we have the 2nd Amendment, it is different. Does anyone think that scale will work in our favor when it comes to socialism? honest question - If the main difference isn't scale, what is it and how does the argument against the gun grab invalidate the anti-socialism argument?

 

[Michchamp]

I can't watch the video - blocked at work so I can't say anything about what's in the video. I will say though, this isn't the argument people make in response to the Australian style gun grab. The point usually made is that Australia had so few mass shootings before the confiscation that it's effect is not obvious. They also make the case that the gun grab did nothing to reduce the gun related homicide rate or the suicide rate (overall or by gun).

we're talking about the video here, which is awesome. so maybe stay quiet until you've actually seen it, instead of crapping all over yet another thread with your made up, spurious gun control "arguments" and "facts."

 

[Michchamp]

countries Republicans and even Pelosi Democrats ignore when bashing socialism: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland...

if you bring up universal health care, add France, Germany, Canada, Ireland, the UK, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Japan, and even Italy to the list.

no, socialism will only result in all of us eating rats to survive, because Venezuela , a country totally unlike our own, before or after socialism, which has an economy completely dependant on oil, and since they had a leader we decided we didn't like just because, they've been subject to currency sanctions and other restrictions that have left their government unable to buy food to feed its own people:

That?s what began to happen in 2017. Last year, Venezuela?s export revenues rose from $28 to $32 billion, buoyed by the recovery in world oil prices. Under normal conditions, a rise in a country?s exports would leave it with more resources to pay for its imports. But in the Venezuelan case, imports fell by 31 percent during the same year. The reason is that the country lost access to international financial markets. Unable to roll over its debt, it was forced to build up huge external surpluses to continue servicing that debt in a desperate attempt to avoid a default. Meanwhile, creditors threatened to seize the Venezuelan government?s remaining revenue sources if the country defaulted, including refineries located abroad and payments for oil shipments.

U.S. economic sanctions have stopped Venezuela from issuing new debt and blocked attempts to restructure its existing debt obligations.​

but... socialism... bad...?

Infowars not lie to me.

Me like Infowars people.

How possible they make up fact and lie?

 

[TheVictors]

It makes me think about all the garbage Glenn Beck used to spew ...much of which he's retracted or changed his views on. Sort of exposes the whole propaganda thing for what it is - talking points with a political agenda that serves a purpose for a relatively short time and because there is no accountability whatsoever anymore - "largest inauguration crowd in history!" ..."some people are saying it's the greatest thing they've ever seen, believe me!" - people can push whatever bullshit story they want because they know there is no repercussion for lying or pushing lies in order to gain some sense of consent and agreement from the intended audience.

 

[Spartanmack]

countries Republicans and even Pelosi Democrats ignore when bashing socialism: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland...

if you bring up universal health care, add France, Germany, Canada, Ireland, the UK, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Japan, and even Italy to the list.

no, socialism will only result in all of us eating rats to survive, because Venezuela , a country totally unlike our own, before or after socialism, which has an economy completely dependant on oil, and since they had a leader we decided we didn't like just because, they've been subject to currency sanctions and other restrictions that have left their government unable to buy food to feed its own people:

That’s what began to happen in 2017. Last year, Venezuela’s export revenues rose from $28 to $32 billion, buoyed by the recovery in world oil prices. Under normal conditions, a rise in a country’s exports would leave it with more resources to pay for its imports. But in the Venezuelan case, imports fell by 31 percent during the same year. The reason is that the country lost access to international financial markets. Unable to roll over its debt, it was forced to build up huge external surpluses to continue servicing that debt in a desperate attempt to avoid a default. Meanwhile, creditors threatened to seize the Venezuelan government’s remaining revenue sources if the country defaulted, including refineries located abroad and payments for oil shipments.

U.S. economic sanctions have stopped Venezuela from issuing new debt and blocked attempts to restructure its existing debt obligations.​

but... socialism... bad...?

Infowars not lie to me.

Me like Infowars people.

How possible they make up fact and lie?

I thought we were talking about the video, what's with the tangent about Republicans ignoring Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Iceland. Of course this contention is entirely made up and spurious since conservatives talk about them all the time. First, they're not socialist countries - not a single one of them. They're basically capitalistic democracies with some socialist tendencies. What we actually talk about but you ignore is the truth about universal healthcare and the fact that we've subsidized these countries defense spending. And if you think we have a free market, capitalist healthcare system, you have no idea what you're talking about. But what we have is still better than what you'll get in the UK, Canada, Sweden, Denmark and Norway.

Also, the idea that people are starving in Venezuela because of currency sanctions and not because of a failed political and economic system, is perhaps your most spurious, made up argument of all time. Also, Norway's economy is pretty much entirely dependent on oil too, how come they're not eating rats. Oh yeah, because we haven't imposed currency sanctions and other restrictions on them.

 

[Michchamp]

Infowars reporter brings up Venezuela in the video.

 

[tinselwolverine]

The cute little socialist chick looks like she's dressed to do a school girl porn scene.

Aside from that, this is probably the dumbest conversation between two people whom one would assume have at least the grey matter it takes to be able to tie one's own shoes.

 

[Spartanmack]

we're talking about the video here, which is awesome. so maybe stay quiet until you've actually seen it, instead of crapping all over yet another thread with your made up, spurious gun control "arguments" and "facts."

shouldn't you be quoting sgg's post here? He's the one that brought up the gun control argument by making the comparison.

and since he's talking about gun control arguments and comparing them to the anti-socialist arguments, whether they're in the video or not, it's fair game to respond and ask questions. And they're not made up or spurious, they're actual facts. You should try using some sometime.

Also, I watched the video on my phone and I agree with Tinsel, it's embarrassing for both of them. You can make the point that it may be less embarrassing for the socialist idiot since there should perhaps be lower expectations for her (she's a socialist after all) than a "journalist" trying to bait a socialist rube into an argument. But none of that changes the fact that they both look like a pair of idiots.

If this is your shining example of the case for socialism discrediting capitalism, you've got some work to do. Or did you run here to post this link to discredit InfoWars? If so, good job bro, exactly one poster on DSF follows InfoWars and takes them seriously.

 

[Michchamp]

for the avoidance of doubt: I did not post the video to show an example of socialism discrediting capitalism, only to show a dumbass infowars reporter ("dumbass" and "infowars reporter" is maybe redundant) get humiliated by an unsuspecting girl they took to be an easy mark. I thought it was entertaining.

 

[Spartanmack]

for the avoidance of doubt: I did not post the video to show an example of socialism discrediting capitalism, only to show a dumbass infowars reporter ("dumbass" and "infowars reporter" is maybe redundant) get humiliated by an unsuspecting girl they took to be an easy mark. I thought it was entertaining.

seems like you're making the case with post 8 where you talk about Republicans ignoring the socialist miracles of Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland. If you're not making the case, then exactly how did the "socialist cutie" rek her? What the video boils down to is two idiots arguing about something neither seems to know much about. The InfoWars idiot, definitely the cuter of the two by the way, says stupid shit about a basic truth - socialism is bad while the socialist idiot responds with stupid shit about how she doesn't want the bad parts, just the free stuff she mistakenly thinks are a right - she is an easy mark, just not for another idiot. If the video doesn't convince you, spend 2 minutes on her twitter feed.

You want it both ways - saying out of one side of your mouth that we're only talking about the video, then espousing the wonders of socialism and why Venezuela isn't a good example of why folks should be worried about socialism out of the other side - see again, post #8.

 

[sggatecl]

I can't watch the video - blocked at work so I can't say anything about what's in the video. I will say though, this isn't the argument people make in response to the Australian style gun grab. The point usually made is that Australia had so few mass shootings before the confiscation that it's effect is not obvious. They also make the case that the gun grab did nothing to reduce the gun related homicide rate or the suicide rate (overall or by gun).


https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/10/australia-gun-control-obama-america/


But if the argument is that America is different and that difference is the scale - Australia confiscated somewhere between 650k and 1mm guns (about 1/5 of all guns). There are ~310mm guns in the US, 60x that in Oz plus we have the 2nd Amendment, it is different. Does anyone think that scale will work in our favor when it comes to socialism? honest question - If the main difference isn't scale, what is it and how does the argument against the gun grab invalidate the anti-socialism argument?

I'm sure there is another example other than Australia, it was just the first to pop into my head.

But I honestly just picked two examples I hear often without giving much thought. I often hear the 'America is unique/different' argument from both sides in an extremely contradicting manner.

I think certain aspects of socialism could work just like I think certain aspects of 'gun control' could work. I think the folks who are all in (or out) on either topic are delusional generally.

 

[Michchamp]

we already have some socialized programs here in America. people love them.

 

[sggatecl]

we already have some socialized programs here in America. people love them.

As long as you don't call them socialist programs.

 

[tigermud]

They probebly took it down cuz it wasn’t very interesting and seemed to have any real point that was going anywhere, first time I’ve ever seen that IW reporter to, must be tryouts or sumpin

 

[tinselwolverine]

we already have some socialized programs here in America. people love them.

But? But? How is this possible?

I thought we lived in a country where the corrupt GOP-the most corrupt political party in the history of time, it isn't even close-Did everything to thwart the poor and middle class in order to protect the rich.