Election Aftermath

[tigermud]

These people have a no shame

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...dment-as-way-to-bar-trump-from-holding-office

Authoritarian tyrants is all they are

 

[tigermud]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...jan-6-committee-transcribed-interview-friday/

 

[tigermud]

 

[zyxt9]

I'm actually ok with Trump being barred from holding office again.

Supreme Court was just asked by Trump to stop an investigation into White House records of what he did leading up to Jan 6th. Thankfully SCOTUS ruled 8-1 that the investigation may continue.

Tired of that asshole, and even more tired of him attempting to hide things from the American public. There may or may not be anything there, but I'm not going to support him hiding things behind laws or stall tactics.

There are other qualified candidates for 2024, I don't want Trump fucking things up more than he already has. He has always been an ass, and I would not put it past him to lose the Rep primary only to form a 3rd party that prevents Reps from defeating Biden in 2024. So if he is prevented from holding office ever again, that should be viewed by all Republicans as a good thing. Way better off without that fucking POS.

I legit wish he would die already, save everyone the hassle.

 

[tigermud]

:shrug: :hmm:

Clown World.

Former President Donald Trump was vehemently monstered by the media both in 2016 and 2020 for suggesting the election outcome could be compromised.

Following the riot on January 6 last year, Trump?s so-called undermining of the election process was blamed for the raid on the Capitol itself.

Tens of millions of Trump supporters who believe the 2020 election was rigged have also been denounced as everything from dangerous radicals to domestic terrorists.

So when Joe Biden questioned the legitimacy of the upcoming election during a live press conference, the media was placed in an invidious position.

Biden was asked by a reporter if the election could be considered legitimate if he was unable to pass his voting reforms.

?It all depends on whether or not we?re able to make the case to the American people that some of this is being set up to try to alter the outcome of the election,? Biden responded.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/cnn-...n-saying-2022-midterms-could-be-illegitimate/


?It?s OK when we do it!?

 

[tigermud]

I'm actually ok with Trump being barred from holding office again.

Supreme Court was just asked by Trump to stop an investigation into White House records of what he did leading up to Jan 6th. Thankfully SCOTUS ruled 8-1 that the investigation may continue.

Tired of that asshole, and even more tired of him attempting to hide things from the American public. There may or may not be anything there, but I'm not going to support him hiding things behind laws or stall tactics.

There are other qualified candidates for 2024, I don't want Trump fucking things up more than he already has. He has always been an ass, and I would not put it past him to lose the Rep primary only to form a 3rd party that prevents Reps from defeating Biden in 2024. So if he is prevented from holding office ever again, that should be viewed by all Republicans as a good thing. Way better off without that fucking POS.

I legit wish he would die already, save everyone the hassle.

 

[Spartanmack]

I'm actually ok with Trump being barred from holding office again.

Supreme Court was just asked by Trump to stop an investigation into White House records of what he did leading up to Jan 6th. Thankfully SCOTUS ruled 8-1 that the investigation may continue.

Tired of that asshole, and even more tired of him attempting to hide things from the American public. There may or may not be anything there, but I'm not going to support him hiding things behind laws or stall tactics.

There are other qualified candidates for 2024, I don't want Trump fucking things up more than he already has. He has always been an ass, and I would not put it past him to lose the Rep primary only to form a 3rd party that prevents Reps from defeating Biden in 2024. So if he is prevented from holding office ever again, that should be viewed by all Republicans as a good thing. Way better off without that fucking POS.

I legit wish he would die already, save everyone the hassle.

aren't all president's archives protected? Didn't Biden claim some type of executive privilege to block requests to see his archived docs at u of deleware from his time as VP? If it's done legitimately, then I'm ok with it. But I'm not OK with extrajudicial witch hunts because people in power don't like and are afraid of him. I don't think all Reps should be happy because the ends don't justify the means. And don't think they're only doing this to Trump. The next Republican to win the nomination and possibly the White House will get the same treatment. It may be harder for them to smear the next guy but they will, there's no doubt about that. There's nothing special about Trump other than his character made it a bit easier for them.

 

[zyxt9]

aren't all president's archives protected? Didn't Biden claim some type of executive privilege to block requests to see his archived docs at u of deleware from his time as VP? If it's done legitimately, then I'm ok with it. But I'm not OK with extrajudicial witch hunts because people in power don't like and are afraid of him. I don't think all Reps should be happy because the ends don't justify the means. And don't think they're only doing this to Trump. The next Republican to win the nomination and possibly the White House will get the same treatment. It may be harder for them to smear the next guy but they will, there's no doubt about that. There's nothing special about Trump other than his character made it a bit easier for them.

His character made it easy for Republicans to hate him. He never was a good person, even before becoming President, and long before his stupid TV show.

The US will be better off without Trump than with him. I have no issue with many of his policies, but I absolutely despise the person and have zero respect for him.

I agree the Dems will dig up dirt on any Rep put forth as their POTUS candidate. But I also recognize that Reps do the same to Dem candidates.

I like DeSantis because I feel like he is respectable. He stands up for individuals, but does it without all of Trump's insanity. He has easily withstood every attack the Dems have thrown at him...such as not being seen when Covid spike was happening. He was still politically involved but was not seen because he was taking care of and supporting his wife who was undergoing cancer treatment. To call him out at that point is to prove one's self as completely inhumane, not that it stopped Dems of course. But Trump would have gone on one of his stupid tirades. DeSantis just let the facts speak for themselves and easily struck down the Dem lunacy.

 

[tigermud]

His character made it easy for Republicans to hate him. He never was a good person, even before becoming President, and long before his stupid TV show.

The US will be better off without Trump than with him. I have no issue with many of his policies, but I absolutely despise the person and have zero respect for him.

I agree the Dems will dig up dirt on any Rep put forth as their POTUS candidate. But I also recognize that Reps do the same to Dem candidates.

I like DeSantis because I feel like he is respectable. He stands up for individuals, but does it without all of Trump's insanity. He has easily withstood every attack the Dems have thrown at him...such as not being seen when Covid spike was happening. He was still politically involved but was not seen because he was taking care of and supporting his wife who was undergoing cancer treatment. To call him out at that point is to prove one's self as completely inhumane, not that it stopped Dems of course. But Trump would have gone on one of his stupid tirades. DeSantis just let the facts speak for themselves and easily struck down the Dem lunacy.

He put American first that's all I ever asked for, 100% willing to support anyone else that will do the same, those types don't come along often and were never able to win in the past. I believe DeSantis will do the same and isn't so thin skinned he has to insult everyone all the time so he's got my full support over Trump.

 

[Spartanmack]

His character made it easy for Republicans to hate him. He never was a good person, even before becoming President, and long before his stupid TV show

Totally agree with this - I've been saying pretty much this exact point since the beginning. The thing is, for the most part none of these people, particularly the opposition are good people. And guys like Romney lose - he refused to punch back and it cost him. He's probably the most decent person to run for President in my lifetime. During the debate he said he thought Obama was a good man and good father and Obama attacked Romney like he was Hannibal Lecter - accused him of animal cruelty and killing a guys wife. That's when I realized Republicans will never win unless they punch back and that's what Trump did. It probably doesn't take a person with his character to punch back but he's the first to do it.

The US will be better off without Trump than with him. I have no issue with many of his policies, but I absolutely despise the person and have zero respect for him.

Never got to like him as a person but on policy, I think he's the best we've had since Reagan. The country is not better off now without him, that's for sure. Perhaps most importantly as Mud pointed out - he put America first. As an unapologetic American who couldn't give 2 $***$ what the world thinks of us, that is a must for me - America's interests first.

I agree the Dems will dig up dirt on any Rep put forth as their POTUS candidate. But I also recognize that Reps do the same to Dem candidates.

I like DeSantis because I feel like he is respectable. He stands up for individuals, but does it without all of Trump's insanity. He has easily withstood every attack the Dems have thrown at him...such as not being seen when Covid spike was happening. He was still politically involved but was not seen because he was taking care of and supporting his wife who was undergoing cancer treatment. To call him out at that point is to prove one's self as completely inhumane, not that it stopped Dems of course. But Trump would have gone on one of his stupid tirades. DeSantis just let the facts speak for themselves and easily struck down the Dem lunacy.

I don't agree that we do the same at least not on the same level. I said a lot about this above. Everyone was afraid to attack Hillary for being the horrible human being she is - except Trump. he did it and it worked. DeSantis is taking a page from his book and he clearly is a man of higher character, which is why I would much prefer to see him run. I think Pompeo is a lot like that too - I've watched a lot of video of him testifying before Congress and he's as good maybe even better at embarrassing people who try to attack him. I hope one of those guys gets the nom, but if it's Trump, I'm not abstaining or supporting a 3rd candidate.

 

[Gulo Blue]

In a normal year, this would have been a bigger story. I don't think I was even aware of this until recently.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/21/january-6-committee-precedent-pro-trump-electors-527528

As presidential electors gathered in December 2020 to affirm Joe Biden?s victory, the Republicans who would have been Trump?s electors in several states that Biden won gathered anyway to cast unofficial votes. In five of those states ? Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan and Georgia ? those electors then signed certificates claiming they were ?duly elected and qualified? to represent their states.

there's some interesting precedent:

Republicans at the time emphasized that their decision to hold unsanctioned elector votes had a precedent. In 1960, three Democratic electors from Hawaii met to cast votes for John F. Kennedy, even though the election results showed that Richard Nixon had narrowly prevailed in the state. With a recount underway, those pro-Kennedy electors met to cast their votes anyway and submitted those results to Congress and the National Archives, the clearinghouse for elector certificates.

Hawaii?s recount ultimately reversed the outcome, showing Kennedy had won by fewer than 200 votes, and the state?s governor then certified the Democratic slate as well. On Jan. 6, 1961, the Democratic electors were the ones counted by Congress, with Nixon, then vice president, presiding.

Which highlights, at least to me, what might be an unavoidable problem in our system. It all works to the degree that people follow the system in good faith. If we get enough people in the right places that don't operate in good faith, which is what happened last time and is continuing now, all bets are off.

 

[Gulo Blue]

https://www.mlive.com/public-intere...or-false-elector-strategy.html?outputType=amp

If it ain't against the law, it should be. How much more do we need to show bad faith?

 

[tigermud]

https://banned.video/watch?id=61e85d4467828c03950c7076

 

[Gulo Blue]

DeSantis is some alternative to Trump, Igor Fruman (sentenced to a year in prison) and Lev Parnas donated to him too.

https://www.businessinsider.com/igor-fruman-prison-campaign-finance-scheme-2022-1

"I knew Parnas," DeSantis previously told reporters, per The Tampa Bay Times. "I didn't know the other guy as much."

Fruman, Parnas, and Giuliani later became central figures in former President Donald Trump's first impeachment trial. Giuliani worked with the pair to try to find overseas dirt on President Joe Biden's son Hunter, which they could use to aid Trump's campaign.

 

[tigermud]

https://justthenews.com/politics-po...-guard-authorized-jan-6-pelosi-turned-it-down

 

[tigermud]

Only took a year for the repodems to get us back on a war footing with Russia they all so desperately wanted in Syria before Trump said no. After the Afghan debacle buck seriously wants the US to support sending up to 5,000 troops to Ukraine?. Worst president in US history.

 

[tigermud]

Meh

https://nationalfile.com/wisconsin-assembly-unanimously-votes-withdraw-bidens-2020-electoral-votes/

 

[tigermud]

Meh

https://nationalfile.com/wisconsin-assembly-unanimously-votes-withdraw-bidens-2020-electoral-votes/

Failed, no surprise there.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-to-recall-biden-electors-fails-spectacularly

 

[Spartanmack]

LOL, 3 years later the NYT is joining the party...

The questions is why now? Do they finally care about the truth because they know Biden can't win again so they need to ruin him? Are they going to pretend this is some new revelation or will they admit they intentionally ignored Biden's decades of corruption and incompetence? I'm looking forward to the shock and surprise of the 81mm Biden voters - "who could have known?"

 

[Spartanmack]

This is weird, bob told me only the GOP gerrymanders to tilt things in their favor yet here's an analysis from 538 that says "New York?s Proposed Congressional Map Is Heavily Biased Toward Democrats. Will It Pass??