"Enemy of the People"

[Spartanmack]

LOL, you think a diploma from De LA Salle high school makes him an expert on the gospel - in that case I have a gif for you...

https://youtu.be/bobp5OHVsWY

 

[Michchamp]

LOL, you think a diploma from De LA Salle high school makes him an expert on the gospel - in that case I have a gif for you...

https://youtu.be/bobp5OHVsWY

you're not allowed to use that GIF. Antwoine Dodson would never be on your side.

mods, please delete his post.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Wasn't that because of WHERE they were collecting taxes and buying and selling goods - not because they were doing it?

Not strictly the location, but the presumption that the business was somehow blessed or condoned by God. (Like my stereotype of some of today's televangelists or megachurch leaders.) But obviously you can't be a den of thieves, take your business outside, and then be in the clear.


I'm just saying in a general sense, the biggest display of anger was over financial dealings. (Don't forget, I said this just after agreeing that the rich aren't vilified just for being rich.)

 

[Spartanmack]

you're not allowed to use that GIF. Antwoine Dodson would never be on your side.

mods, please delete his post.

he agrees with me about the stupidity of boycotting Chik-Fil-A so he's probably smart enough to be with me on this - he only has to be a little smarter than you, which I have no doubt he is, to see how weak the argument from authority nonsense is.

 

[Gulo Blue]

There's also a parable where Christ talks about taking money away from the guy with 1 silver coin and giving it to the guy with ten silver coins. It wasn't a celebration of wealth, but it didn't display any rejection of economic inequality either.

 

[Spartanmack]

There's also a parable where Christ talks about taking money away from the guy with 1 silver coin and giving it to the guy with ten silver coins. It wasn't a celebration of wealth, but it didn't display any rejection of economic inequality either.

did you go to Catholic school?

 

[Gulo Blue]

did you go to Catholic school?

A little. Not as much as some of you authorities.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Not strictly the location, but the presumption that the business was somehow blessed or condoned by God. (Like my stereotype of some of today's televangelists or megachurch leaders.) But obviously you can't be a den of thieves, take your business outside, and then be in the clear.


I'm just saying in a general sense, the biggest display of anger was over financial dealings. (Don't forget, I said this just after agreeing that the rich aren't vilified just for being rich.)

It would seem to me that trying to turn on buckk lending money and doing various otherBusiness transactions at the temple would be a pretty pedestrian activity for a rich person.

It would seem to me obvious that the richest and most influential person in the land would have been Pontius Pilate and then the high-ranking Romans below him.



Then we would move over to King Herod and the aristocracy around him.

Think the people like Annis and Caiaphas would have been pretty loaded Outside of their gigs and religion.

None of those people were doing business at the temple.

 

[Gulo Blue]

It would seem to me that trying to turn on buckk lending money and doing various otherBusiness transactions at the temple would be a pretty pedestrian activity for a rich person.

It would seem to me obvious that the richest and most influential person in the land would have been Pontius Pilate and then the high-ranking Romans below him.



Then we would move over to King Herod and the aristocracy around him.

Think the people like Annis and Caiaphas would have been pretty loaded Outside of their gigs and religion.

None of those people were doing business at the temple.

Caiaphas might have. He's the dude with the serious base voice.

 

[Spartanmack]

It would seem to me that trying to turn on buckk lending money and doing various otherBusiness transactions at the temple would be a pretty pedestrian activity for a rich person.

It would seem to me obvious that the richest and most influential person in the land would have been Pontius Pilate and then the high-ranking Romans below him.



Then we would move over to King Herod and the aristocracy around him.

Think the people like Annis and Caiaphas would have been pretty loaded Outside of their gigs and religion.

None of those people were doing business at the temple.

As a gov't bureaucrat, Pilate probably lived as well or even better than Herod off the Roman treasury but I wouldn't be surprised if Herod's personal net worth was bigger.

 

[Michchamp]

A little. Not as much as some of you authorities.

that's okay. you'll probably still go to heaven, but you might have to spend a few years in purgatory first.

 

[tinselwolverine]

As a gov't bureaucrat, Pilate probably lived as well or even better than Herod off the Roman treasury but I wouldn't be surprised if Herod's personal net worth was bigger.

That?s the point, the Communist leaders in those classless society is all lived better than the rest of them. The old Soviet Premier is probably had access to as much goodies as rich people in the rest of the world did.

It does occur to me that Pilate likely got his gig because he came from privilege back in Rome.

 

[Gulo Blue]

that's okay. you'll probably still go to heaven, but you might have to spend a few years in purgatory first.

Like the Medium Place? I can live with that for a while. Warm beer. Cannonball Run II on VHS.

 

[Gulo Blue]

That?s the point, the Communist leaders in those classless society is all lived better than the rest of them. The old Soviet Premier is probably had access to as much goodies as rich people in the rest of the world did.

It does occur to me that Pilate likely got his gig because he came from privilege back in Rome.

We all have access to better goodies than any of those biblical era guys. I wouldn't trade my luxuries for Caesar's.

 

[Michchamp]

We all have access to better goodies than any of those biblical era guys. I wouldn't trade my luxuries for Caesar's.

I would.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I would.

Air conditioning, cold beer, and coffee?

 

[tinselwolverine]

We all have access to better goodies than any of those biblical era guys. I wouldn't trade my luxuries for Caesar's.

Well of course.

And baseball was better with steroids.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EPSdrL1SiK0

I was comparing apples to apples.

 

[Michchamp]

Air conditioning, cold beer, and coffee?

worth it for the sake of having a harem of exotic women to tend to my every whim.


As far as cold beer... I know the Persians could make ice, using below ground water/airflow. I kinda wonder if the Romans could too? They had hot water & central heating.

 

[Michchamp]

Strangely enough Trump hasn't mentioned this guy, when talking about enemies of the people.

the fucked up thing is that this story only came out because a University group on extremism found the court filings; no one was planning to tell the public that an active duty officer of the Coast Guard was stockpiling an arsenal and planning to attack Democratic congressmen, and left wing groups like the DSA.

 

[Gulo Blue]

worth it for the sake of having a harem of exotic women to tend to my every whim.


As far as cold beer... I know the Persians could make ice, using below ground water/airflow. I kinda wonder if the Romans could too? They had hot water & central heating.

1) Exotic sex vs beer & coffee & AC- I really don't think it would be worth it long term. And most people don't even prioritize it highly enough to really pursue the options they have available in this age.
2) Servants vs beer & coffee & AC- The appeal of not having manual chores is significant, but you could hire some help today and get your chores to be pretty minimal today, even as an average lawyer. Put that up against how bad the occasional heat wave is without AC, and I'd definitely take the modern conveniences.

3) Beer was probably flat back then and whatever they had probably sucked compared to the stuff we have now.
4) There was no coffee, and while I used to think beer was better than coffee, I once went a month without drinking either and definitely missed the coffee far more. Not even a close competition.
5) I only listed 3 things. That's scratching the surface. We've got so many entertainment options Caesar didn't have, I wouldn't know where to start.