Farmer with brass balls takes Monsanto to Sup Ct.

[Michchamp]

Link.

not really sure if this will completely upend patent law, as Monsanto is claiming. certainly would put a crimp in their profit stream... which ... oh well.

 

[kalinecountry]

Link.

not really sure if this will completely upend patent law, as Monsanto is claiming. certainly would put a crimp in their profit stream... which ... oh well.

Hope they can stop these bastards. This genetically modified food is a downright scary thing. Monsanto the people with roundup that kills weeds, have iirc already been doing this with corn, that is the grain feed for animals and is passed on to us in human consumption.
Right now there is no law for the food companies to have to declare if any food have genetically modified foods as ingredients.
Is it the FDA food and drug administration that overlooks this? If they fall short of stopping them, and give a slap on the wrist with an affordable fine it's just more bs.

 

[redandguilty]

Genetically modification is a scary technology because it is powerful, because we can't predict results (we just do it and see what we get), and because once it's in the environment, it can be difficult or impossible to eradicate. But we're going to keep doing it and the tools will just continue to get more powerful. I'm very torn on how we should approach continued research. It's unsafe to let a few big researchers dominate the market because genetic diversity is so critical to robustness, but it's also dangerous to have lots of small players releasing any dangerous thing they can create into the environment.

But there's no going back. They think people created corn around 10,000 years ago. In the atomic age, we created genetic mutations via radiation and planted it to see what we'd get. Now we use viruses to tweak our own genetic code. I wish our lawyers and politicians good luck making sense of stuff for the next few decades.

 

[redandguilty]

I am more worried about antibiotic overuse in animals than the genetic modification of plants. Y'all are probably aware of the situation here in the US and won't be surprised that China can play that game too...and then some.

http://science.time.com/2013/02/12/...lem/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true

 

[byco42]

It will not help this farmer's cause to learn that Clarence Thomas was an attorney for Monsanto in the 1970s. But what's that to me? I've not eaten GMO food for years, or cooked food of any kind for three weeks.

The transformation is amazing. So are the flavors. I recommend it to everyone.

 

[tinselwolverine]

It will not help this farmer's cause to learn that Clarence Thomas was an attorney for Monsanto in the 1970s. But what's that to me? I've not eaten GMO food for years, or cooked food of any kind for three weeks.

The transformation is amazing. So are the flavors. I recommend it to everyone.

So you're a paleo/vegan?

 

[byco42]

So you're a paleo/vegan?

No. Neither. I just eat raw food.

 

[redandguilty]

It will not help this farmer's cause to learn that Clarence Thomas was an attorney for Monsanto in the 1970s. But what's that to me? I've not eaten GMO food for years, or cooked food of any kind for three weeks.

The transformation is amazing. So are the flavors. I recommend it to everyone.

Wow. That's not an easy thing to do unless you can afford a chef.

 

[redandguilty]

No. Neither. I just eat raw food.

If it's raw food avoiding grain (which is pretty much all-GMO these days)...that's pretty much my understanding of the paleo diet.

 

[byco42]

If it's raw food avoiding grain (which is pretty much all-GMO these days)...that's pretty much my understanding of the paleo diet.

No. Paleo is lots of animal protein that is cooked. I don't eat anything that is cooked.

 

[redandguilty]

No. Paleo is lots of animal protein that is cooked. I don't eat anything that is cooked.

Hmmm...

So what about meat? Cured meat...that could work, but it might defeat the philosophy. What about pasteurization?

 

[byco42]

Hmmm...

So what about meat? Cured meat...that could work, but it might defeat the philosophy. What about pasteurization?

Nope. As for dairy, if it's raw, yes. I grate raw cheese into salads.

 

[redandguilty]

Nope. As for dairy, if it's raw, yes. I grate raw cheese into salads.

Homebrew isn't pasteurized...aww...crap...but it is grain. So no beer then. Ouch. And no coffee! Man!

 

[Thumb]

Nope. As for dairy, if it's raw, yes. I grate raw cheese into salads.

I thought you didn't consume milk, or milk based products as they were not meant for human consumption passed the age of weaning.

We had a pretty long discussion about this a while back.

 

[byco42]

I thought you didn't consume milk, or milk based products as they were not meant for human consumption passed the age of weaning.

We had a pretty long discussion about this a while back.

It's the processing, not the product itself. Grating a little raw reggiano on a salad ain't going to make me grow a third arm. That's pretty much it for dairy products for me.

 

[byco42]

Homebrew isn't pasteurized...aww...crap...but it is grain. So no beer then. Ouch. And no coffee! Man!

True, no coffee. I was surprised how easily I adapted. I'm just doing this for Feb.

 

[lostleader]

Hope they can stop these bastards. This genetically modified food is a downright scary thing. Monsanto the people with roundup that kills weeds, have iirc already been doing this with corn, that is the grain feed for animals and is passed on to us in human consumption.
Right now there is no law for the food companies to have to declare if any food have genetically modified foods as ingredients.
Is it the FDA food and drug administration that overlooks this? If they fall short of stopping them, and give a slap on the wrist with an affordable fine it's just more bs.

I worked for Monsanto about 8 years ago in a research facility. I can say with our a doubt that the FDA keeps a close eye on everything that is being tested. Now stuff that is not approved is still planted but it is highly regulated, and planted where it cannot cross with regular corn. Once a field had been planted and harvested all testing most be done on site then all crops must be burned. For a year after all volunteer planted that grow must be hand pulled before maturity. It is not as loose as people believe. Does Monsanto have unfair patent laws....yes. But to say the GMO is a horrible thing that is totally unregulated is not true. With out the GMO people wouldn't be as fat as they are and we wouldn't produce near as much as we do, but I would be a lot richer and our family farm might of survived.

Those who worry about antibiotics on animals have a much greater concern. The USDA is cutting FSIS jobs and we do not monitor closely what is being put into our animals. One major reason I don't buy meat from a grocery store. Venison is cheap and I know what I am getting. Also I pity anyone who buys ground meat from a store....you don't even want to know.

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