First real GAllup Poll of 2012 race

[redandguilty]

I'd like to see life expectancy charts adjusted for life style factors. I bet the longevity stats of Americans are amazing given our obesity levels.

Also buried in our medical costs are the costs of R&D. I believe we do more of that here than elsewhere...could just be my bias that causes me to suspect these things though.

The right answer is a 2-tier system. Direct gov subsidy of low-end/established medical care and optional private insurance for high-end stuff/new procedures.

 

[cheeno]

I'd like to see life expectancy charts adjusted for life style factors. I bet the longevity stats of Americans are amazing given our obesity levels.

Also buried in our medical costs are the costs of R&D. I believe we do more of that here than elsewhere...could just be my bias that causes me to suspect these things though.

The right answer is a 2-tier system. Direct gov subsidy of low-end/established medical care and optional private insurance for high-end stuff/new procedures.

If you control for obesity, homicides, and car accidents; the US has one of the highest life expectancy rates in the world.

 

[tycobb420]

I went through the #s dating to 1948. Only one other time has an incumbent been behind in the first poll. That was 1976 when Carter led Ford by 5 or 6 points. Ford of course had Watergate to deal with. SImply based on the history of presidential elections, there are 3 possible outcomes. Romney wins by a nose (like Carter in 1976). Romney landslide win (like Reagan in 1980). Obama eeks it out.

 

[Slick]

I went through the #s dating to 1948. Only one other time has an incumbent been behind in the first poll. That was 1976 when Carter led Ford by 5 or 6 points. Ford of course had Watergate to deal with. SImply based on the history of presidential elections, there are 3 possible outcomes. Romney wins by a nose (like Carter in 1976). Romney landslide win (like Reagan in 1980). Obama eeks it out.

Romney landslide will never happen...to many definite blue states with alot of Electorals...for it to be a landslide Romney will have to win Florida , Penn , Michigan , Ohio and Colorado.....and I seriously doubt he wins any of those.

popular vote maybe 51 - 49 but Obama will carry a big electoral victory.

 

[Slick]

The United States President Barack Obama is leading the likely Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney by a significant margin in various US states.
The GOP had 188 electorate votes that were either firmly Republican or leaning Republican.
According to Politico, Obama has 242 electoral votes in Democratic states, leaving 104 electoral votes in states that were purely tossups.
A total of 270 votes are needed to win the presidential elections.
Colorado has long been a reliable GOP state, but an influx of young professionals and Hispanic voters led to Obama's victory in 2008, whereas Florida is the prime state for both campaigners.
Obama won the Florida elections in 2008, but the housing crisis, high unemployment and gas prices are still dogging him. Romney won the Florida primary in January, and has picked up endorsement of freshman senator.
In Iowa, Obama's victory in the state in 2008 gave him a launch pad, which is countered by Romney's two caucus campaigns.
New Hampshire, is Romney's vacation home. He won the 2012 primary big, but Obama peeled off the state in 2008 and has worked hard to keep it.
Nevada is a prime example of the economy's struggles, a point that can benefit Romney. A higher Mormon population helps Romney.
In North Carolina, Obama was the first Democrat to win North Carolina in 32 years and he again hopes to gain a high percentage of votes from newcomers and minorities.
Romney won the 2012 primary in Ohio and has support from big public figures. Obama has the organizing advantage, although the economy remains a sticking point, especially in the industrial northwest.
The analysis gives President Obama's team a lot more flexibility in terms of winning elections, though it is too early to make a conclusion.

 

[Monster]

Just wait until all the ads start flying and you get to see romney and obama debate...obama will destroy him.

 

[tsmith7559]

Just wait until all the ads start flying and you get to see romney and obama debate...obama will destroy him.

He will destroy him based on his record??? LOL... I doubt that

 

[Slick]

He will destroy him based on his record??? LOL... I doubt that

you think you'll live long enough to see another Repub in the White House ? I doubt it....I mean Obama will win in '12 , and then Hillary will take apart any retard they put up against her in '16 and most likely '20.

cant see ya around in 2024......poor bastard. :cheers:

 

[tsmith7559]

you think you'll live long enough to see another Repub in the White House ? I doubt it....I mean Obama will win in '12 , and then Hillary will take apart any retard they put up against her in '16 and most likely '20.

cant see ya around in 2024......poor bastard. :cheers:

$1,000 on 2012?????

 

[Slick]

$1,000 on 2012?????

ok Mittens.....lol

 

[Slick]

surprised you haven't broken a leg jumping bandwagons...1st you were all for Noot , then you stated you gave $$$ to Rooster...now you're banking on teflon Mitt....lol

 

[tsmith7559]

surprised you haven't broken a leg jumping bandwagons...1st you were all for Noot , then you stated you gave $$$ to Rooster...now you're banking on teflon Mitt....lol

Ive given money to Newt
Voted for Rick
fully support Romney

Donated to Josh Mandel- Ohio Senate
Daniel Bongino-Maryland Senate
Joe the Plumber for Congress
among others

 

[Slick]

Ive given money to Newt
Voted for Rick
fully support Romney

Donated to Josh Mandel- Ohio Senate
Daniel Bongino-Maryland Senate
Joe the Plumber for Congress
among others

should just give it to the crack heads outside Ford Field....:tup:

 

[tsmith7559]

should just give it to the crack heads outside Ford Field....:tup:

I give the guy at the corner of E. Grand Blvd and the I-75 service drive $10 every football sunday

 

[cheeno]

I give the guy at the corner of E. Grand Blvd and the I-75 service drive $10 every football sunday

Is that the "eat 'em up Lions" guy?

 

[tsmith7559]

Is that the "eat 'em up Lions" guy?

lol...I gave him some, but I go a different way. I really like the bongo guy along right field of Comerica, but dont go his way anymore

 

[cheeno]

lol...I gave him some, but I go a different way. I really like the bongo guy along right field of Comerica, but dont go his way anymore

I usually park in the Olympia parking garage and walk on either side of Comerica. The bongo guy usually gets some singles from me if I walk that way.

 

[mhughes0021]

$1,000 on 2012?????

Some pretty good odds to make money if i had any to gamble

 

[tsmith7559]

Some pretty good odds to make money if i had any to gamble

I'm waiting.........................

 

[tycobb420]

Romney landslide will never happen...to many definite blue states with alot of Electorals...for it to be a landslide Romney will have to win Florida , Penn , Michigan , Ohio and Colorado.....and I seriously doubt he wins any of those.

popular vote maybe 51 - 49 but Obama will carry a big electoral victory.

Using historical data, as things stand, and if they remain as they are, Obama loses. Right now, using this data, the most likely outcome is a Romney landslide. There is 7 months or so to go and things can change and there have been outlier elections before (1936, 1948), so anything is possible.