Game 15: Lions @ Bengals Thread

[grandy]

Detroit Lions (8-6) @ Cincinnati Bengals (5-9)

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Injury Report
Link (from Friday)

Lions
C Travis Swanson (concussion) - OUT
G T.J. Lang (foot) - Doubtful
T Rick Wagner (ankle) - Questionable
DT Rodney Coe (illness) - Questionable
T Brian Mihalik (illness) - Questionable


Bengals
S George Iloka (shoulder) - Questionable
T Cedric Ogbuehi (shoulder) - OUT
LB Nick Vigil (ankle) - OUT


Series History
Link
The Lions are 3-8 against the Bengals
Last Game: 10/20/2013, Bengals 27 Lions 24
Last Game in Cincinnati: 12/6/2009, Bengals 23 Lions 13
Last Win: 11/22/1992, Lions 19 Bengals 13
Recent Games: The Bengals have won the last 5 meetings

 

[grandy]

Football Outsiders Stats

Ranks in parentheses. For info on acronyms and definitions, click on the links.

Team Efficiency

Total DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average)
Detroit 4.5% (13th)
Cincinnati -17.0% (26th)

Weighted DVOA (DVOA adjusted for recent games)
Detroit -0.7% (16th)
Cincinnati -15.4% (25th)

Offense DVOA
Detroit 3.2% (15th)
Cincinnati -12.3% (25th)

Defense DVOA
Detroit 3.9% (17th)
Cincinnati 4.2% (18th)

Special Teams DVOA
Detroit 5.2% (6th)
Cincinnati -0.5% (18th)


Team Offense

Weighted Offense DVOA
Detroit 5.1% (14th)
Cincinnati -6.2% (21st)

Pass Offense
Detroit 21.3% (12th)
Cincinnati -7.9% (26th)

Rush Offense
Cincinnati -11.7% (21st)
Detroit -22.4% (30th)


Team Defense

Weighted Defense DVOA
Cincinnati 8.0% (22nd)
Detroit 10.0% (28th)

Pass Defense
Detroit 9.7% (16th)
Cincinnati 13.3% (18th)

Rush Defense
Cincinnati -5.6% (20th)
Detroit -3.0% (25th)


Offensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Cincinnati 3.55 (29th)
Detroit 3.15 (32nd)

Power Success
Cincinnati 53% (29th)
Detroit 29% (32nd)

Stuffed
Cincinnati 20% (15th)
Detroit 28% (31st)

2nd Level Yards
Cincinnati 1.09 (20th)
Detroit 0.94 (31st)

Open Field Yards
Detroit 0.59 (20th)
Cincinnati 0.39 (30th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Detroit 7.8% (23rd)
Cincinnati 7.8% (24th)


Defensive Lines

Adjusted Line Yards
Detroit 4.35 (25th)
Cincinnati 4.48 (29th)

Power Success
Detroit 57% (9th)
Cincinnati 67% (19th)

Stuffed
Cincinnati 19% (22nd)
Detroit 18% (29th)

2nd Level Yards
Detroit 1.22 (20th)
Cincinnati 1.24 (23rd)

Open Field Yards
Cincinnati 0.46 (3rd)
Detroit 0.70 (13th)

Adjusted Sack Rate
Cincinnati 6.8% (15th)
Detroit 5.9% (21st)


Drive Stats

Net Yards/Drive
Detroit -1.13 (18th)
Cincinnati -6.61 (31st)

Net Points/Drive
Detroit 0.10 (14th)
Cincinnati -0.41 (25th)

Net DSR (Drive Success Rate)
Detroit -0.027 (23rd)
Cincinnati -0.060 (30th)

Offense Yards/Drive
Detroit 30.56 (15th)
Cincinnati 24.80 (32nd)

Offense Points/Drive
Detroit 2.00 (12th)
Cincinnati 1.45 (25th)

Offense DSR
Detroit 0.681 (16th)
Cincinnati 0.633 (31st)

Defense Yards/Drive
Cincinnati 31.41 (20th)
Detroit 31.68 (21st)

Defense Points/Drive
Cincinnati 1.86 (14th)
Detroit 1.90 (16th)

Defense DSR
Cincinnati 0.693 (16th)
Detroit 0.709 (24th)

 

[kdp1980]

Who the hell is Rodney Coe?

 

[Mitchrapp]

Who the hell is Rodney Coe?

Apparently a waiver claim recently..

 

[manchild98]

This game actually "scares" me a tiny bit. The Bears game didn't at all. The Bengals have looked god awful the past 2 weeks. Will they try and save some face and win their last home game for Marvin Lewis? Hopefully we don't get off to one of those slow starts. We "should" win by more than a TD.

 

[sggatecl]

My opinion on this game is the same as the Tampa Bay game. Lions should destroy them, this shouldn't be competitive. But we all know it's going down to the wire and won't be decided with any more than 3:00 on the clock.

 

[tomdalton22]

this game is the lock of the year. The Bengals have quit. Lions win by 2 TDs

 

[tomdalton22]

GB is garbage too. The Lions will finish 10-6

 

[biggunsbob]

Harrison for Pittsburgh was released. Maybe we should let him play a few downs for us?

 

[boogerlovejoy]

We already have an overaged DE we don't play.

Don't need 2

 

[kalinecountry]

https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2017...laim-james-harrison-pittsburgh-steelers-waive
Do you want the Lions to go after James Harrison?
Should the Lions kick the tires on another aging pass rusher?
POD

No.

 

[grandy]

Snow not expected until about 5pm. Weather should be fine for the game.

 

[tigermud]

I'll say Lions win falcons lose and the lions keep hope alive for the final week

 

[kalinecountry]

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2017/12/lions_without_3_starting_offen.html#incart_river_index
Lions without 3 starting offensive linemen in Cincinnati.
Mlive

Detroit has ruled out center Travis Swanson (brain), right guard T.J. Lang (foot) and right tackle Rick Wagner (ankle) against the Bengals. That guarantees they'll roll out a 10th starting combination in 15 games.

The rest of Detroit's inactives: RB Zach Zenner, RB Dwayne Washington, WR Bradley Marquez and DT Rodney Coe. That means Andy Lee is up for the first time at receiver.

 

[biggunsbob]

Sigh.

 

[tigermud]

Dropatron

 

[Tonyballs2]

Dropatron

Stafford's fault.....
1) should have thrown it elsewhere
2) threw it too hard
3) he makes too much money
4) derp

 

[biggunsbob]

How about a pick 6.

 

[tigermud]

Hellva play slay

 

[biggunsbob]

Slay !!!!