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Game 4: Bears @ Lions Thread

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2013/9/29/4784468/lions-injury-report-rashean-mathis-chris-houston

The Detroit Lions' starting cornerbacks were unable to finish Sunday's game against the Chicago Bears, and it showed. The Bears picked on Darius Slay and Jonte Green down the stretch when they made things a bit interesting with a couple touchdowns and two-point conversions. With the Green Bay Packers coming up next, the Lions can't afford to be shorthanded in the secondary.

So what's the word on Rashean Mathis and Chris Houston? Let's start with Mathis, who left early on because of an apparent concussion. It turns out that Mathis said that he was actually cleared to return by the Lions' doctors, according to Kyle Meinke, but the Bears' doctors did not allow him to come back. The Bears' doctors attended to Mathis first, and they apparently claimed that he lost consciousness, according to Carlos Monarrez. As a result, Mathis wasn't allowed to play, but the fact that the Lions' doctors did clear him seems to be a good sign for his status going forward.

As for Houston, he left Sunday's game with a leg injury, per Dave Birkett. He was on the injury report leading up to the Bears game with a hand injury, so add this to the list of ailments he's dealing with. It's not clear at this time if he could miss next week's game because of the injury.

In other injury news, offensive tackle Jason Fox is closer to returning, per Brad Galli. Fox practiced all week, but he was inactive for Sunday's game. Given how well Corey Hilliard seems to be playing, I wonder if Fox will even start at right tackle when he is healthy enough to play.

Finally, running back Reggie Bush returned to action on Sunday after missing a week with a knee injury. Bush was actually nervous about how his knee would respond to returning, according to Lindsay Czarniak, but his numbers really speak for themselves: 173 total yards and a touchdown.

That's so fucking stupid. Imagine if the Lions doctors get over to Aaron Rodgers next week after a big hit. "Sorry Coach McCarthy, Aaron can't return to the game, the Lions docs said he lost consciousness."
 
Tulloch looked concerned when Mathis went down. Im thinking he was out, if only for a few seconds.
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/chicago-bears-players-former-teammate-israel-idonije-feeding-221655772--nfl.html

Stealing signs, as Spygate taught us, is not just a baseball thing. And it's common that when a team faces one of its former longtime players, it will change up its terminology slightly just so that player's new team can't gain an advantage.

Well, the Chicago Bears seem to think that defensive end Israel Idonije, now with the Detroit Lions, tipped his new team off about what defensive schemes the Bears were running.
 
ummmm duh....why do you think scrubs from divisional rivals get picked up interdivision all the time.
 
Seems like sour grapes to me. "Bush only torched us because he knew what we're doing...deeeeerp."
 
That's so fucking stupid. Imagine if the Lions doctors get over to Aaron Rodgers next week after a big hit. "Sorry Coach McCarthy, Aaron can't return to the game, the Lions docs said he lost consciousness."

I like the idea of both team doctors having to clear a concussion injury. Part of the reason for the almost $1 billion lawsuit that the NFL is having to pay former players & fund future concussion injuries is because teams were willing to put their own players in danger for the sake of winning.
 
I like the idea of both team doctors having to clear a concussion injury. Part of the reason for the almost $1 billion lawsuit that the NFL is having to pay former players & fund future concussion injuries is because teams were willing to put their own players in danger for the sake of winning.

Why not just have a neutral doctor on site?? Eventually it's going to be abused if it hasn't been already.
 
I like the idea of both team doctors having to clear a concussion injury. Part of the reason for the almost $1 billion lawsuit that the NFL is having to pay former players & fund future concussion injuries is because teams were willing to put their own players in danger for the sake of winning.

Checks and balances seem to be a good thing in this case.

Seriously though, can we get Rodgers ruled out next week?
 
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Why not just have a neutral doctor on site?? Eventually it's going to be abused if it hasn't been already.

I think that was one of the things the NFLPA was trying to get in the last CBA, a neutral DOC not on the team payroll.

Smith said the NFLPA has talked about calling for a neutral chief safety officer to preside over the league. It's somewhat stunning this position doesn't already exist.

By having an "independent neurological consultant" on every sideline, as the union argues for, players would be at far less risk to dangerously re-enter a game with concussion symptoms.

Oftentimes, personnel on the sidelines aren't able to fully assess a player's situation without being able to run the necessary tests, which aren't accessible on an NFL sideline. As a result, players are sent back into the game under dubious and vulnerable conditions.

The NFLPA conducted a poll of its current membership and found that many NFL players don?t trust their teams? medical staffs, doctors and trainers fully.

Seventy-eight percent of the polled players, when asked if they trusted their team?s medical staff, responded with an answer of ?not at all.? An additional 15 percent rated their trust as being only slightly more trustworthy than that

The NFLPA is also seeking a credentialing process for doctors and trainers, but Smith said the NFL balked at the concept. Why does this matter? Smith pointed to San Diego Chargers team doctor David Chao, stating he was twice found liable of malpractice. Smith argued the players deserve better.
 
I think that was one of the things the NFLPA was trying to get in the last CBA, a neutral DOC not on the team payroll.

Smith said the NFLPA has talked about calling for a neutral chief safety officer to preside over the league. It's somewhat stunning this position doesn't already exist.

By having an "independent neurological consultant" on every sideline, as the union argues for, players would be at far less risk to dangerously re-enter a game with concussion symptoms.

Oftentimes, personnel on the sidelines aren't able to fully assess a player's situation without being able to run the necessary tests, which aren't accessible on an NFL sideline. As a result, players are sent back into the game under dubious and vulnerable conditions.

The NFLPA conducted a poll of its current membership and found that many NFL players don?t trust their teams? medical staffs, doctors and trainers fully.

Seventy-eight percent of the polled players, when asked if they trusted their team?s medical staff, responded with an answer of ?not at all.? An additional 15 percent rated their trust as being only slightly more trustworthy than that

The NFLPA is also seeking a credentialing process for doctors and trainers, but Smith said the NFL balked at the concept. Why does this matter? Smith pointed to San Diego Chargers team doctor David Chao, stating he was twice found liable of malpractice. Smith argued the players deserve better.

I have an idea....maybe the NFLPA hires an sideline Dr for each game to look out for the best interest of their players.
 
I have an idea....maybe the NFLPA hires an sideline Dr for each game to look out for the best interest of their players.

No, they should have a doctor for each NFL player. 90+ doctors on the sidelines all at one time. That would be cool.
 
No, they should have a doctor for each NFL player. 90+ doctors on the sidelines all at one time. That would be cool.

Well if u r going to do that, probably will also need each players agent and a medical malpractice lawyer for each as well.
 
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