Greatest RHP since 1969

[tycobb420]

I am not going to double up earlier votes, so...

Catcher: Johnny Bench
Third Base: Mike Schmidt
LHP: Randy Johnson
REL: Rollie Fingers
Closer: Mariano Rivera

 

[kingofdetroit57]

Some terrific choices on here, but I'm going with Pedro Martinez. He was absolutely dominant from '97-'03 in particular. 118-36 with a 2.44ERA, 1761 Ks, 3 Cy Youngs (two 2nd and one 3rd place finish in that span), and a .959 WHIP during those years. The guy was ridiculously good.

I'd probably go Clemens and Seaver next, then maybe Ryan and Maddux to round out my top 5.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

I will say that Ryan was my favorite of that group, then probably Halladay, Smoltz and Clemens (prior to finding out how big of a scumbag he is/was). Morris was a Tiger, so I liked him, but he always stuck me as a grumpy SOB.

 

[tycobb420]

I completely forgot Don Sutton. I doubt he would win, but still....if I forgot anyone, feel free to do a "write-in"

 

[tycobb420]

I am going with Tom Seaver. He has always been the prototype for pitchers in my mind.

My top 5 from the group: Seaver, Palmer, Maddux, Pedro, Catfish

 

[tycobb420]

No "Vote for Pedro" jokes?

Ryan-3 Pedro-3 Seaver-1

 

[johnny2x2x]

The over rating of Nolan Ryan will never end. Pedro got my vote, Clemens would have been second despite the steroids. In fact, out of this list, I'm not sure Ryan makes my top 5.

 

[tycobb420]

Ryan-4 Pedro-4 Seaver-1 Maddux-1

Frankly surprised Maddux is not on top of this one.

 

[spockmaster]

i voted Maddux. he was so good for so long, without cheating (like clemens).

 

[tycobb420]

Votes spread all over.

 

[byco42]

I completely forgot Don Sutton. I doubt he would win, but still....if I forgot anyone, feel free to do a "write-in"

If there is a vote for the Greatest Cheating RHP since 1969, Sutton will be a ballot-box favorite.

 

[tycobb420]

Pedro bursts into the lead

 

[uofmpoweri]

I voted Clemens, but I've changed my mind to Gregg Maddux. No roids and he was amazing. He didn't get the k's like some of the others but he didn't walk anyone. Career WHIP 1.14

 

[kalinecountry]

I voted for Seaver.

If Gibson and Marichal were part of this group they would be next in line for me.

Ryan is in here somewhere, Maddux was a surgeon, Pedro had a 'Koufax like' peak of years, and Clemens is up there. After those it's Palmer for me.

Mussina, Blyleven, and Halladay fall in place after along with the rest of these RHP.

There are as many who think Ryan is a top five/ten all time as those who think he is more in the 20/30 all time. The glory counting stats are incredible as is the number of years which is maybe what causes angst for the fans who don't regard him as highly. Never the less the consistency of that greatness for a very long career, as well as all the no-hitters, and low hit games, batting average against etc.

 

[tycobb420]

KalineCountry[/color]]I voted for Seaver.

If Gibson and Marichal were part of this group they would be next in line for me.

Ryan is in here somewhere, Maddux was a surgeon, Pedro had a 'Koufax like' peak of years, and Clemens is up there. After those it's Palmer for me.

Mussina, Blyleven, and Halladay fall in place after along with the rest of these RHP.

There are as many who think Ryan is a top five/ten all time as those who think he is more in the 20/30 all time. The glory counting stats are incredible as is the number of years which is maybe what causes angst for the fans who don't regard him as highly. Never the less the consistency of that greatness for a very long career, as well as all the no-hitters, and low hit games, batting average against etc.

Glad I am not alone on the Seaver bandwagon! Ryan became an American icon by 1989....the last of the Old West ass-kickers...that image has remained burned into the consciousnes.

 

[tycobb420]

Ryan and Pedro tied at 6. Darkhorse Seaver at 3.

 

[fedexgooch78]

if it wasnt for crack cocaine....this probably would be open/shut dwight gooden. he was absolutely filthy when he first came in. then the drugs took over and he was at best a shell of himself, even though in between lapses he did have some very good performances.

he is a real shame. i hate the mets today...but he made me a mets fan in the mid-80s

 

[biggunsbob]

Who had the most shutouts ... I had to look.. I know different era's... Didn't the top guys have a bunch of 1 run games also...

Ryan 61 in 773 starts
Seaver 61 in 647. starts
Blyleven 60 in 685. starts
Clemens 46 in 707. starts
Palmer 53 in 521 starts.
Niekro 45 in 716 starts.
Hunter 42 in 476 starts.
Maddux 35 in 740 starts.
Morris 28 in 527 starts.
Mussina 23 in 536 starts.
Schilling 20 in 436 starts.
Halladay 20 in 352. starts
Martinez 17 in 409 starts.
smoltz 16 in 481 starts

 

[tycobb420]

Ryan-7 Pedro-6 Seaver-4

Will remain open until this afternoon. Honestly, I thought Ryan would win going away. If there is a tie, we'll go to the tie-breaker!

 

[jimrice]

Pedro in the late 90's was the best pitcher I've ever seen, so I went with him.

Personally, I always thought Ryan was overrated, I don't even have him in the top 3. Anybody that walks 4.7 per 9 for a career isn't the best.