I am fucking sick of Trump

[Thumb]

Well said, that would have indeed been a much better response...we so need someone like him only with thicker skin and more smarts to not insult everyone all the time. Damit... damit all to hell!

Um, no. We need someone who's completely not like him at all. I would seriously love to hear you expound on his virtues he would bring to the presidency aside from the fact he is not named Hillary Clinton.

 

[byco42]

Um, no. We need someone who's completely not like him at all. I would seriously love to hear you expound on his virtues he would bring to the presidency aside from the fact he is not named Hillary Clinton.

Well, he's rich and he says what no one wants to hear. Sounds like a winner.

 

[Sbee]

Well said, that would have indeed been a much better response...we so need someone like him only with thicker skin and more smarts to not insult everyone all the time. Damit... damit all to hell!

and integrity too, but I get the point. I love the idea of an independently wealthy candidate financing his or her own campaign and being a true outsider, but obviously he is not what I have in mind.

 

[tigermud]

Um, no. We need someone who's completely not like him at all. I would seriously love to hear you expound on his virtues he would bring to the presidency aside from the fact he is not named Hillary Clinton.

It's not that complicated to understand why he appeals to many thumb his stated positions on many issues over that of clintons. now maybe he's lying or plans to flip flop.. who knows, it's a chance for real needed drastic change for the better.. over no chance.. that's how I see it anyway. Others see it otherwise, I get that.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/07/donald-trump-why-americans-support

 

[Thumb]

Well I disagree that change just for the sake of change equals better.

And from the data I have seen he gained the most support for saying things like he wants to build a wall to keep Mexicans out, and wants to block, or somehow register Muslims entering the US. The (sadly) large block of xenophobic Americans who like this idea are most likely ignorant to the unconstitutionality of those ideas or that they are so contrary to the basic ideals this republic was founded on.

Now he has said some things about imposing tariffs on American companies unless they return outsourced jobs, usually to loud applause from the muppets in attendance at his rallys, but is what he is suggesting even possible from a legal standpoint? And does anyone think these fines and or tariffs would high enough to offset the profit margin these companies made by moving to cheaper labor? Because that's not likely either.

BTW, the author of that article mentions NAFTA a few times and it's always tagged to Bill Clinton, which is somewhat fair because he signed it....but let's not forget that no matter who won that election; Clinton, Bush I, or Perot, it was going to get signed, and they all stated that.

 

[jwlcosu]

Doubt that Perot would have signed it. He's the one who warned of the giant sucking sound of jobs leaving the country. Wall is to keep illegals out, not Mexicans. Beefing up scrutiny of Muslims flowing from hotbed Jihadi territory is about preventing what we see unfolding in Germany.

 

[tigermud]

Perot is the one that said it was going to be a bad deal and warned repeatedly againts it and he was 100% correct!

 

[Michchamp]

given how our government is designed, with a separation of powers, and a system of checks and balances, I have a hard time understanding how some third party candidate, or even a independently wealthy democrat or republican who wins their party's nomination while openly thumbing their nose at the party rank and file could accomplish much - if anything - of what they promise to voters once in office.

some of you guys realize that legislation, i.e. the money needed to fund anything - must originate with congress, and be passed by congress. right?. the president is more powerful today than in the past in some ways, but if congress defunds every agency he tasks with executing some initiative, there's isn't much he can do about it. and if he wants a bill passed, he needs to get someone in congress to sponsor it for him, preferably one rep from each party.

plus, unless he appointed a VP even crazier than him (Trump fucked that one up...) he is a sitting duck when it comes to a serious push to impeach him.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Any legs to this story about Trump wife working on a travel visa? ...which would make her a type of illegal immigrant?

 

[TheVictors]

Too bad we didn't have that WALL built in time to prevent Timothy McVeigh or the Columbine Shooters ...or Sandy Hook, or San Bernardino, or Aurora ...or Virginia Tech ...or that nutjob marine in Texas ...or that fuckwad in Colorado Springs ...or Orlando or in Oregon ...or Charleston or Santa Barbara ..or Tucson or Seal Beach ...or a wall around Paris or Munich.



I say let's put a WALL around Ohio and fill it in with water.

 

[Michchamp]

Too bad we didn't have that WALL built in time to prevent Timothy McVeigh or the Columbine Shooters ...or Sandy Hook, or San Bernardino, or Aurora ...or Virginia Tech ...or that nutjob marine in Texas ...or that fuckwad in Colorado Springs ...or Orlando or in Oregon ...or Charleston or Santa Barbara ..or Tucson or Seal Beach ...or a wall around Paris or Munich.



I say let's put a WALL around Ohio and fill it in with water.

drop Draymond Green in there first. he can show all of cleveland his cock, and then go punching people in the balls until "the deluge" hits.

also fill it with pee, not water.

 

[Michchamp]

Any legs to this story about Trump wife working on a travel visa? ...which would make her a type of illegal immigrant?

I saw something about that; it's certainly possible.

Happens a lot. it's only really notable here because of the irony in her husband basically basing almost his entire campaign on bashing illegal immigrants... and he turns out to he married to one.

I do hope the story is downplayed though. she seems more or less harmless, and a real deer-in-the-headlights during this campaign. she doesn't deserve to be dragged through the mud like her husband.

 

[Michchamp]

I've managed to avoid any Trump-centric news for a few days. almost.

avoiding news that tangentially involves him is difficult.

and avoiding headlines about him is impossible, short of avoiding all media.

in the former case though, it's pretty hilarious that he rewarded paul ryan et al for their tepid endorsements with NO endorsements in return (although he picked a VP who had already endorsed Paul Ryan, but what political campaign can be expected to stay on point about little things like that?). and he's really hurting the ticket, as previously safe GOP senate seats/candidates are now in dead heats or up for grabs. the Democrats could actually pick up seats all over the place because of him.

and in the latter case, in Trump-headline related news, I saw he's already getting his excuse making lined up, claiming this election will be rigged. well, sure, but not in the way you're implying, chief. RichRod could learn a thing or two about excuse making from this shyster...

 

[Michchamp]

If...*if* you were to believe that Trump's run is a big ploy to get Clinton elected and it constituted a rigged primary, that still wouldn't mean both sides do it. That would just mean the democrats rigged both primaries.

oh for pete's sake...

okay, here's the point i was making (or trying to...): you can win the GOP nomination just by being an empty headed, racist, race-baiting blowhard. Yet people still make the argument "both sides are the same, both sides do it, etc etc"

YES I am fully aware of the dangers posed by a one-party state, but voting for the sort of party that would nominate a guy like Trump just to provide some sort of counterbalance is more akin to knocking the scale off the table and fucking the whole thing up. the GOP should be thoroughly skewered and out of power until they purge racist identity politics from their platform and rhetoric completely. leave those votes/political scraps to some racist piece of shit third party willing to take them. there should be no room in the tent of a national political party for the KKK.

 

[Michchamp]

that last paragraph I just added. it can be extrapolated from the aforementioned, eh, point I was trying to make.

 

[Gulo Blue]

There's still some wishful thinking out there that someone will talk Trump into stepping down. We can hope.

It's worth keeping in mind that only 9% of the country voted for either Clinton or Trump. Scaling to the graphic on that link, 3.9% of the country voted for Trump.

For the 1st time in 128 years the Harvard Republican Club is not supporting the republican nominee.

Here's a good list of Republicans and the degree to which they appear to be supporting Trump.

 

[Michchamp]

There's still some wishful thinking out there that someone will talk Trump into stepping down. We can hope.

It's worth keeping in mind that only 9% of the country voted for either Clinton or Trump. Scaling to the graphic on that link, 3.9% of the country voted for Trump.

For the 1st time in 128 years the Harvard Republican Club is not supporting the republican nominee.

Here's a good list of Republicans and the degree to which they appear to be supporting Trump.

the 9% thing is misleading, since a lot of people don't vote in primaries. primary turnouts were still higher than usual, though I guess thats to be expected when there is no incumbent

 

[Sbee]

great quote from him today

"If she gets to pick her judges, [there's] nothing you can do folks. Although, the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don?t know."

at best a wildly inappropriate joke, at worst, condoning assassination.

What a fucking moron? I still can't believe that someone who says so much stupid shit is a major party candidate.

 

[Michchamp]

great quote from him today

"If she gets to pick her judges, [there's] nothing you can do folks. Although, the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don?t know."

at best a wildly inappropriate joke, at worst, condoning assassination.

What a fucking moron? I still can't believe that someone who says so much stupid shit is a major party candidate.

I was already sick of Trump, man. didnt you see the thread title?

it's crazy that hinting his opponent should be assassinated isn't really that surprising to me. Normally, that would be extreme, but coming from him? meh. we were already at maximum outrage months ago... now its all ennui until November 8th.

 

[byco42]

What is a "second amendment person?" And why does this clown think people who support it are predisposed to shoot at a presidential candidate? What an ill-informed, reckless individual.