ICE Raid

[tinselwolverine]

Reuters.

So what will be the consequences for the employer?

And how difficult/easy will it be to replace them?

And what will be the broader economic impact?

 

[TheVictors]

I don’t know but just last week when Up North we heard about a migrant family that moved from MI to MS and took jobs at a Chicken plant (not sure if it’s the same one). The family stayed in touch with friends of ours and described the working conditions as horrendous. Apparently the line workers are paid by the number of chickens they ‘process’ so many have taken to wearing diapers so they don’t have to stop working to use the bathroom. Nobody eats lunch and the place is just awful.

So ICE raids such a place and arrests people who are willing to work under such conditions just to make a living? Got it.

I’m sure there are Trumptards lining up to take those jobs back from the “damn illegals” flooding over the border.

Good lord.

 

[Michchamp]

I don?t know but just last week when Up North we heard about a migrant family that moved from MI to MS and took jobs at a Chicken plant (not sure if it?s the same one). The family stayed in touch with friends of ours and described the working conditions as horrendous. Apparently the line workers are paid by the number of chickens they ?process? so many have taken to wearing diapers so they don?t have to stop working to use the bathroom. Nobody eats lunch and the place is just awful.

So ICE raids such a place and arrests people who are willing to work under such conditions just to make a living? Got it.

I?m sure there are Trumptards lining up to take those jobs back from the ?damn illegals? flooding over the border.

Good lord.

also: "They knew what the conditions were like when they took the job, and could just go find another job if they don't like it, so it's perfectly fine that they work in unsafe, grotesque conditions."

 

[tinselwolverine]

also: "They knew what the conditions were like when they took the job, and could just go find another job if they don't like it, so it's perfectly fine that they work in unsafe, grotesque conditions."

Well, we don?t know that the conditions were unsafe-just apparently grotesque.

I guess maybe there was some danger of diaper rash.

 

[tomdalton22]

I heard they were filling the batter buckets with meth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJYUs2UH0SM

 

[Michchamp]

Well, we don?t know that the conditions were unsafe-just apparently grotesque.

I guess maybe there was some danger of diaper rash.

rushing to process chickens... i.e. gutting/cutting them up with sharp tools. I'm sure there's no danger there.

 

[tinselwolverine]

rushing to process chickens... i.e. gutting/cutting them up with sharp tools. I'm sure there's no danger there.

Well, I would say there?s significant danger for the chickens.

 

[Spartanmack]

I don?t know but just last week when Up North we heard about a migrant family that moved from MI to MS and took jobs at a Chicken plant (not sure if it?s the same one). The family stayed in touch with friends of ours and described the working conditions as horrendous. Apparently the line workers are paid by the number of chickens they ?process? so many have taken to wearing diapers so they don?t have to stop working to use the bathroom. Nobody eats lunch and the place is just awful.

So ICE raids such a place and arrests people who are willing to work under such conditions just to make a living? Got it.

I?m sure there are Trumptards lining up to take those jobs back from the ?damn illegals? flooding over the border.

Good lord.

So ICE shouldn't raid any facilities where Trump supporters wouldn't take the jobs? Got it. People gotta make a living and you need reasonably priced chicken so fuck off, ICE!

 

[Spartanmack]

also: "They knew what the conditions were like when they took the job, and could just go find another job if they don't like it, so it's perfectly fine that they work in unsafe, grotesque conditions."

he already implied this when he criticized ICE for arresting people willing to do work under conditions that Trump supporters aren't, because they need to make a living.

 

[byco42]

The book The Jungle comes to mind. Sinclair was championing socialism while the readers were wondering if Uncle Sal was the reason their burger tasted so robust.

 

[tinselwolverine]

So ICE shouldn't raid any facilities where Trump supporters wouldn't take the jobs? Got it. People gotta make a living and you need reasonably priced chicken so fuck off, ICE!

The situation is nuanced, complicated and chaotic.

The last Republican president was elected with one of his main campaign pledges being an amnesty plan because illegal aliens were here doing jobs that ?Merkins din?t wanna do.?

That may not have been entirely untrue at the time, and it may not be entirely untrue now.

The current insanity happening here in California is the state adopted a policy that local law enforcement shouldn?t cooperate with ICE in deporting illegals being held in local corrections facilities for crimes having NOTHING to do with having crossed the border - other than, of course, if they hadn?t crossed the border they wouldn?t have been here to commit the crimes they were being incarcerated for.

Some localities are refusing to implement the policy of the state.

 

[byco42]

The situation is nuanced, complicated and chaotic.

The last Republican president was elected with one of his main campaign pledges being an amnesty plan because illegal aliens were here doing jobs that ?Merkins din?t wanna do.?

That may not have been entirely untrue at the time, and it may not be entirely untrue now.

The current insanity happening here in California is the state adopted a policy that local law enforcement shouldn?t cooperate with ICE in deporting illegals being held in local corrections facilities for crimes having NOTHING to do with having crossed the border - other than, of course, if they hadn?t crossed the border they wouldn?t have been here to commit the crimes they were being incarcerated for.

Some localities are refusing to implement the policy of the state.

Warren Zevon's prophecy may transpire soon. Is your hotel bill paid?

 

[tinselwolverine]

Warren Zevon's prophecy may transpire soon. Is your hotel bill paid?

I think it?s motel bill, and no, I haven?t paid it, and given the prophecy, it would seem counterintuitive to do so.

 

[Spartanmack]

The situation is nuanced, complicated and chaotic.

The last Republican president was elected with one of his main campaign pledges being an amnesty plan because illegal aliens were here doing jobs that ?Merkins din?t wanna do.?

That may not have been entirely untrue at the time, and it may not be entirely untrue now.

The current insanity happening here in California is the state adopted a policy that local law enforcement shouldn?t cooperate with ICE in deporting illegals being held in local corrections facilities for crimes having NOTHING to do with having crossed the border - other than, of course, if they hadn?t crossed the border they wouldn?t have been here to commit the crimes they were being incarcerated for.

Some localities are refusing to implement the policy of the state.

I hate nuanced situations, they can be so complicated. I wonder if California can get behind a policy where local law enforcement cooperates with ICE raiding only facilities where Trump supporters would take the jobs being done by illegals.

 

[byco42]

I think it?s motel bill, and no, I haven?t paid it, and given the prophecy, it would seem counterintuitive to do so.

I think the idea is that you'll (he) will still have to pay it anyway.

And if California slides into the ocean
Like the mystics and statistics say it will
I predict this motel will be standing until I pay my bill​

 

[tinselwolverine]

I hate nuanced situations, they can be so complicated. I wonder if California can get behind a policy where local law enforcement cooperates with ICE raiding only facilities where Trump supporters would take the jobs being done by illegals.

Who makes the determination as to whether Trump supporters would work there or not? ICE? Nanci Pelosi? Gavin Newsom? Trump himself?

It?s nuanced and complicated.

Also it?s questionable if there are even 680 Trump supporters in California.

 

[TheVictors]

Sparty be Angry ....RAAAAAAWR!!!

Perhaps ICE should focus on finding the truly and actually dangerous people here in the country and not raid some chicken slaughterhouse where ONLY the most desperate of people from even MORE desperate situations are willing to work.

And maybe Trump shouldn't have sex with minors, or make white power hand signs when talking about women in Congress or suck Putin's limp dick like the owned bitch he is.


Priorities.

And we only eat free range chicken.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Perhaps ICE should focus on finding the truly and actually dangerous people here in the country

And we only eat free range chicken.

Well, as I pointed out in #11, attempts of that nature of being thwarted not just here in California but in various places across the country.

I don?t have much love lost for Trump as president, that said-that shit there, that shit is fucked up.

Also, I?m not sure that free range chickens are slaughtered any differently than other chickens, unless they are slaughtered by a kosher butcher, as one of the tenants of keeping kosher is a less inhumane form of slaughtering livestock.

 

[Spartanmack]

Who makes the determination as to whether Trump supporters would work there or not? ICE? Nanci Pelosi? Gavin Newsom? Trump himself?

It?s nuanced and complicated.

Also it?s questionable if there are even 680 Trump supporters in California.

That's a question for Vic - I don't claim to have any insight into what working conditions people who support Trump would be willing to work under. Like I said (and you did too), it's complicated.

 

[Spartanmack]

Sparty be Angry ....RAAAAAAWR!!!

Perhaps ICE should focus on finding the truly and actually dangerous people here in the country and not raid some chicken slaughterhouse where ONLY the most desperate of people from even MORE desperate situations are willing to work.

And maybe Trump shouldn't have sex with minors, or make white power hand signs when talking about women in Congress or suck Putin's limp dick like the owned bitch he is.


Priorities.

And we only eat free range chicken.

I'm not the least bit angry, I'm having great fun with this.

So you do think ICE should not raid facilities where the working conditions are so bad, only illegal immigrants would do the work? They should continue to allow them to live here illegally and be taken advantage of by unscrupulous employers? got it.

Trump kicked Epstein out of his club for inappropriate conduct with an underaged employee - it's the high profile folks on your team that appear to be the child rapers. Trump made no comments about race, religion, ethnicity or gender, it just so happens 4 of the biggest idiots in congress who attack him relentlessly with impunity, are women. Also, again it's your team that appears to be the ones colluding with Russia, Trump's actually been tougher on Russia than just about any POTUS since Reagan.

Priorities.

You realize free range chickens also have to be killed, right? or do you raise, kill, clean and cook them yourself? Do you bite their heads off, like Ozzy? You seem more like an internet tough guy than someone who would actually get his hands dirty.