I'm surprised this hasn't been posted already

[Spartanmack]

Did I already miss this in another thread somewhere? We finally get a real case of a cop murdering an unarmed suspect and it has all of libs favorite talking points - it's even white cop, black suspect AND there is some extremely solid video evidence and I go to DSF and...crickets...

South Carolina has the death penalty too, I believe. this cop could fry for this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/u...-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html

 

[Sbee]

Good thing this was caught on video, that's what needs to happen. otherwise a grand jury wouldn't find enough evidence to press charges on the office.

 

[Michchamp]

I try to exercise some discretion in just what I post in deference to the rest of you; while I could talk for hours about police misconduct and racism in the U.S. ... I don't want the old guys to start hating me and getting annoyed with me (anymore than they already do/are).

 

[Monster]

Imo, clearly murder. Only thing that confuses me is why protesters are there and demanding the Mayor be removed. The cop is being charged with murder. I'm starting to think these blacklivesmatter people are just looking for a fight.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Is it any part of police training to ever fire a string of shots like that?

And is the any chance video games play a role in the idea that that's a normal thing to do? Nothing scientific here, but my gut tells me that if you only shoot at targets, the first time you shoot at a person, you'd want to see what happens before shooting again. You be a little shocked and you had a bit of an instinct to freeze. But video games might train you to keep pulling the trigger in the fight or flight situation. I don't know whether or not they contribute to violence in general, but I might believe they impact these situations.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I try to exercise some discretion in just what I post in deference to the rest of you

...says the Good Friday Cheeseburger Troll.

 

[TheVictors]

Maybe cops shooting unarmed people is just too common to warrant a thread?

Maybe the Treyvon Martin case made everyone feel it doesn't matter.

Maybe the crap in St. Louis has folks burned out ...

Maybe the weekly murders in Chicago have numbed the nation (or board)



Maybe guns are a problem in society these days.

Maybe this thread is like MC's and just provocative to be that ...




Dude is a straight up killer. Any BS defense to explain otherwise should be met with incredible skepticism ...especially because it happened in South Carolina.

 

[TheVictors]

Is it any part of police training to ever fire a string of shots like that?

And is the any chance video games play a role in the idea that that's a normal thing to do? Nothing scientific here, but my gut tells me that if you only shoot at targets, the first time you shoot at a person, you'd want to see what happens before shooting again. You be a little shocked and you had a bit of an instinct to freeze. But video games might train you to keep pulling the trigger in the fight or flight situation. I don't know whether or not they contribute to violence in general, but I might believe they impact these situations.

Incredibly thoughtful and excellent post

 

[Spartanmack]

Imo, clearly murder. Only thing that confuses me is why protesters are there and demanding the Mayor be removed. The cop is being charged with murder. I'm starting to think these blacklivesmatter people are just looking for a fight.

There have been so many instances of false or misdirected outrage in the last few years, it's hard to keep track.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I don't get the whole "no Justice no peace" protest in this event.

The cop has been arrested and charged with first-degree murder, a charge if convicted could carry the death penalty.

He's getting the same right to a criminal defense and a trial of his peers that Zokar Jernayev was just entitled to, according to the bill of rights in the United States Constitution.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I don't get the whole "no Justice no peace" protest in this event.

The cop has been arrested and charged with first-degree murder, a charge if convicted could carry the death penalty.

He's getting the same right to a criminal defense and a trial of his peers that Zokar Jernayev was just entitled to, according to the bill of rights in the United States Constitution.

 

[zyxt9]

Definitely a svumbag cop, planting the taser like that, no CPR...guy should fry.

Definitely need more cameras on cops or anywhere else too.

Need to remember not every cop is bad and not every police killing of suspects is unjustified though. Absolutely wrong here and many other recent cases, but we need to also see videos when cops were justified, otherwise the public will lose all trust.

Tough job, but assholes like this certainly don't make the job easier.

 

[Spartanmack]

Maybe cops shooting unarmed people is just too common to warrant a thread?

Maybe the Treyvon Martin case made everyone feel it doesn't matter.

Maybe the crap in St. Louis has folks burned out ...

Maybe the weekly murders in Chicago have numbed the nation (or board)



Maybe guns are a problem in society these days.

Maybe this thread is like MC's and just provocative to be that ...




Dude is a straight up killer. Any BS defense to explain otherwise should be met with incredible skepticism ...especially because it happened in South Carolina.

Or, maybe it's tactical. In this case, it actually is obvious brutality, excessive force, murder, quite possibly even with a heaping helping of racism and there has been an arrest. No need to manufacture a false, misleading narrative here. No need to bully law enforcement into an arrest or demand a conviction before there's even a trial. No need to stir up the mob and create a story that just isn't there. Although I have to say I'm surprised they're not up in arms at least over the race angle. I would think they would get real mileage out of this story - at least way more than they would w/ Trayvon and Brown where race was shown to not be an issue.

 

[Spartanmack]

Definitely a svumbag cop, planting the taser like that, no CPR...guy should fry.

Definitely need more cameras on cops or anywhere else too.

Need to remember not every cop is bad and not every police killing of suspects is unjustified though. Absolutely wrong here and many other recent cases, but we need to also see videos when cops were justified, otherwise the public will lose all trust.

Tough job, but assholes like this certainly don't make the job easier.

You will never see a video of a justified police shooting in the media. You will have to seek them out on your own.

 

[Gulo Blue]

There have been so many instances of false or misdirected outrage in the last few years, it's hard to keep track.

Misdirected, yes. False, no. Rosa Parks wasn't the first black woman in Alabama to refuse to give up her seat. But there was more organization to the civil rights protests of the day. I don't remember where I read it, I think it was something on Dr. MLK Jr., but organizers picked the case to boycott over carefully. Apparently, there was a pregnant woman that did the same thing like a week earlier that they almost went with, but she had her child out of wedlock, so they decided the possible bad press associated with that was enough reason to go with Parks instead.

That's over. The way things are reported now, pictures are painted before facts are known and protests start before people know if the specific event is a good representative case of the thing they are protesting.

 

[TheVictors]

Or, maybe it's tactical. In this case, it actually is obvious brutality, excessive force, murder, quite possibly even with a heaping helping of racism and there has been an arrest. No need to manufacture a false, misleading narrative here. No need to bully law enforcement into an arrest or demand a conviction before there's even a trial. No need to stir up the mob and create a story that just isn't there. Although I have to say I'm surprised they're not up in arms at least over the race angle. I would think they would get real mileage out of this story - at least way more than they would w/ Trayvon and Brown where race was shown to not be an issue.

agreed.

now imagine if there was no video account of this murder ....

 

[Thumb]

Let's just see if the guy actually get's convicted first.

 

[Spartanmack]

Misdirected, yes. False, no. Rosa Parks wasn't the first black woman in Alabama to refuse to give up her seat. But there was more organization to the civil rights protests of the day. I don't remember where I read it, I think it was something on Dr. MLK Jr., but organizers picked the case to boycott over carefully. Apparently, there was a pregnant woman that did the same thing like a week earlier that they almost went with, but she had her child out of wedlock, so they decided the possible bad press associated with that was enough reason to go with Parks instead.

That's over. The way things are reported now, pictures are painted before facts are known and protests start before people know if the specific event is a good representative case of the thing they are protesting.

How does that validate the outrage in the Trayvon Martin case? Or the Mike Brown case? There are plenty of instances of false outrage, like "hands up, don't shoot"

 

[Michchamp]

How does that validate the outrage in the Trayvon Martin case? Or the Mike Brown case? There are plenty of instances of false outrage, like "hands up, don't shoot"

Well, in both cases an unarmed black kid was killed, and in the former instance it took a nationwide protest before the state pressed charges, and in the latter, white-washed it with a grand jury investigation that saw the state introduce a witness that gave inconsistent testimony and wasn't even there, among other procedural gaffes.

Or is that understanding too complicated for you to grasp?

Tell me something about Al Sharpton now. Al Sharpton complained right? So there must be no issue, since we all know Al Sharpton makes every argument invalid.

 

[Thumb]

How does that validate the outrage in the Trayvon Martin case? Or the Mike Brown case? There are plenty of instances of false outrage, like "hands up, don't shoot"

False outrage because you say so?