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Iraq War Planners

...but maybe some people will be curious, just not curious enough to click.

Prediction: when Dick Cheney dies I post the Ewok song to all social media platforms.

The Last Letter (To: George W. Bush and Dick Cheney) "My day of reckoning is upon me. Yours will come" http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...rites-last-letter-to-bush-and-cheney-20130320

Speaking of Satan, I wonder how Dick Cheney's spending the 10-year anniversary of the Iraq invasion

You sir @RumsfeldOffice are what we commonly refer to as a war criminal. And if you believe you're going to heaven, then so is everybody.

10 Years ago @rumsfeldoffice began the difficult work of having American kids die for Halliburton

@KarlRove @RumsfeldOffice Congratulations on the 10th anniversary of your war crimes.

@RumsfeldOffice: I wish I could say something more articulate, but I'll settle for "it's unjust that you'll die peacefully outside prison."

@Paulwolfowitz I'm having a dispute with my upstairs tenant. I'm thinking of either talking to him or slaughtering his family. Any advice?

@Paulwolfowitz is on twitter. He shall be greeted as a liberator. Shower him w flowers. His account will pay for itself

hey @Paulwolfowitz i was thinking on the bus today that you must be one of the worst guys of our era, all that stuff you did, weird innit?


And it goes on and on...mostly for Rumsfeld, not so much with Wolfowitz.
 
I love our education system. Apparently the accused performed surgical experiments, used chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons on them, or maybe placed them in concentration camps till they starved to death. Or lined them all up and killed them Execution style. Maybe tortured them to death?

I'm not suggesting their were not innocents who were killed, but that falls under Collateral Damage in accordance with the Geneva Convention. Don't like that? No one does. Want to make the killing of any innocent into a war crime? Take it up with the Geneva Convention. I'm all for it as would be the American Military, believe it or not. Know why? Because it would force every terrorist to be charged with war crimes!

Good luck getting it passed though, I don't think any nation would actually vote for such a measure, except maybe Switzerland.
 
You love our education system?

Do you think what was tweeted was taught in schools or universities?
 
I love our education system. Apparently the accused performed surgical experiments, used chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons on them, or maybe placed them in concentration camps till they starved to death. Or lined them all up and killed them Execution style. Maybe tortured them to death?

I'm not suggesting their were not innocents who were killed, but that falls under Collateral Damage in accordance with the Geneva Convention. Don't like that? No one does. Want to make the killing of any innocent into a war crime? Take it up with the Geneva Convention. I'm all for it as would be the American Military, believe it or not. Know why? Because it would force every terrorist to be charged with war crimes!

Good luck getting it passed though, I don't think any nation would actually vote for such a measure, except maybe Switzerland.

They're probably talking about the authorization of torture. Nobody needs to die to cross the Geneva Convention.

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Art 13. Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated. Any unlawful act or omission by the Detaining Power causing death or seriously endangering the health of a prisoner of war in its custody is prohibited, and will be regarded as a serious breach of the present Convention. In particular, no prisoner of war may be subjected to physical mutilation or to medical or scientific experiments of any kind which are not justified by the medical, dental or hospital treatment of the prisoner concerned and carried out in his interest.

Likewise, prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity.

Measures of reprisal against prisoners of war are prohibited.
 
You love our education system?

Do you think what was tweeted was taught in schools or universities?

Both, don't try to act like the education system isn't stacked with teachers who promote a liberal agenda.
 
They're probably talking about the authorization of torture. Nobody needs to die to cross the Geneva Convention.

Bolding mine

Ah, on that I will agree wholeheartedly. There was never a need for torture and that is something I can agree needed to be handled in accordance with the Geneva Convention. The War on Terror is more about winning on the publicity and psychology fronts and not increasing the number of terrorists due to those types of actions.

For that I would not have had issue with a trial. We are supposed to be better than that. Granted the same and worse, far worse, is routinely performed by terrorist groups, but that does not excuse the use of torture nor make it acceptable.
 
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Hey red, on a side note, I wonder how the Geneva Convention might be adapted or applied in the future if / when we can hook up a computer externally around a prisoner's head and download their memories as a way of extracting info.

I'm guessing it would be considered unethical as it would be a forceful download as opposed to a willing download, just curious on your thoughts as to how the GC might look at it. Some might argue it is no different than the current cyber warfare being done via hacking, but others will look at the human hack as unethical I think.
 
Both, don't try to act like the education system isn't stacked with teachers who promote a liberal agenda.


You're right, how could anyone ever form their own opinions and ideals without the liberal agenda being forced upon them.

Tell the truth, you have an autographed copy of every book Bill O'reilly has ever written don't you?
 
You're right, how could anyone ever form their own opinions and ideals without the liberal agenda being forced upon them.

Tell the truth, you have an autographed copy of every book Bill O'reilly has ever written don't you?

I'm not saying students cannot form their own opinion, just stating the teaching profession has far more Liberals than Conservatives. Please prove me wrong on this point.

Why did you deflect and bring up Bill O'Reilly? Oh, that's right, you are a Strawman and deflecting is part of your game. Well since you brought it up, O'Reilly is a dumbass Conservative Extremist whom I have zero desire to watch and have felt that way since I watched him the very first time. I have no desire to listen to someone's self-proclaimed "No Spin Zone" when all he does is spin his Conservative Extremist agenda.
 
I'm not saying students cannot form their own opinion, just stating the teaching profession has far more Liberals than Conservatives. Please prove me wrong on this point.

Why did you deflect and bring up Bill O'Reilly? Oh, that's right, you are ...genda.

you prove it, ass. youre the one asserting it.

also thats not a straw argument.

youre mental reasoning skills need an adjustment. please report to the nearest govt clinic to have the microchip in yr brain upgraded.
 
I'm not saying students cannot form their own opinion, just stating the teaching profession has far more Liberals than Conservatives. Please prove me wrong on this point.

If this is the case, why is it the case?
 
teacher: I have an education and therefore am able to do things like put 2 + 2 together. Using my ability, I have concluded that the bases for the Iraq War were false, and therefore the war itself was unethical and wrong. We should not have fought it. The cost of the war in terms of human life lost, cost to the treasury and future generation of Americans further underscores this. If my students ask for my opinion, and it's not otherwise interfering with our government mandated lesson plans, I will share it with them.

zyxt and similarly stupid people like him: OMFG!!! LIBERAL BIAS!!! THEY'RE FILLING OUR KIDS HEADS WITH THIS CRAP INSTEAD OF INSTRUCTING THEM TO ENLIST IN THE MILITARY. NOT AGREEING WITH GEORGE W. BUSH = BIAS. BIAAAAAAAS!!!!
 
teacher: I have an education and therefore am able to do things like put 2 + 2 together. Using my ability, I have concluded that the bases for the Iraq War were false, and therefore the war itself was unethical and wrong. We should not have fought it. The cost of the war in terms of human life lost, cost to the treasury and future generation of Americans further underscores this. If my students ask for my opinion, and it's not otherwise interfering with our government mandated lesson plans, I will share it with them.

zyxt and similarly stupid people like him: OMFG!!! LIBERAL BIAS!!! THEY'RE FILLING OUR KIDS HEADS WITH THIS CRAP INSTEAD OF INSTRUCTING THEM TO ENLIST IN THE MILITARY. NOT AGREEING WITH GEORGE W. BUSH = BIAS. BIAAAAAAAS!!!!

The bases were NOT false. The bases really did exist. I saw soldiers in the bases on my own television, watching television themselves, for example, during telecasts of the Super Bowl, and when Bush went over there that one year for Thanksgiving dinner, and such things as that.

Unless, of course, it was all done on a sound stage here in Hollywood, like the moon landings were.
 
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If this is the case, why is it the case?

Otherwise conservative teachers decided to find more lucrative and less stressful jobs in the private sector, while vying to be the first to edit Wikipedia articles when female fundie/far-rightwing freaks such as Taitz, Bachmann, Palin, Malkin, Coulter, Angle, and O'Donnell...et.al. made some contradictory/controversial speeches or comments regarding US history, politics, and/or currently newsworthy events to the MSM or during teabagger rallies....>:D
 
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Otherwise conservative teachers decided to find more lucrative and less stressful jobs in the private sector, while vying to be the first to edit Wikipedia articles when female fundie/far-rightwing freaks such as Taitz, Bachmann, Palin, Malkin, Coulter, Angle, and O'Donnell...et.al. made some contradictory/controversial speeches or comments regarding US history, politics, and/or currently newsworthy events to the MSM or during teabagger rallies....>:D

Nice. In that case, we create the bias by not paying teachers enough. If you want teachers to be people that do the most lucrative thing they can do, you have to pay for it.
 
Goofus: "No fair. All the educated people support YOUR side! WAAAAAAH"

Gallant: "Did you ever think about why that might be?"

Goofus: "Brainwashing. That's gotta be it. A widespread process of brainwashing that doesn't leave any evidence, and occurs between the hours of 2 AM and 4 AM when all the conservatives are asleep and unable to document it. PROVE ME WRONG."
 
Goofus: "No fair. All the educated people support YOUR side! WAAAAAAH"

Gallant: "Did you ever think about why that might be?"

Goofus: "Brainwashing. That's gotta be it. A widespread process of brainwashing that doesn't leave any evidence, and occurs between the hours of 2 AM and 4 AM when all the conservatives are asleep and unable to document it. PROVE ME WRONG."


Meh..all they havta do is watch that mid-80s movie "The Big Chill" to discover what happens to most of the formerly "radical" college students, when the post-grads are soon faced with the stark realities of starting families, paying taxes/utility-clothing-grocery bills/car-vehicle notes/mortgages and needing to join the "rat race" to become members of the "establishment" that they had once so vehemently protested against...:tup:
 
http://www.chacha.com/question/what-percent-of-teachers-are-liberal

The stats from this link appear legit, but stats are usually skewed so feel free to post something different.

Why are more teachers Democrats? Because of the Teachers Union. Teachers are, or were, very well protected by the Democrats, hence the very high percentage of TU political funds being given to Democrats. The traditional belief had been that it is in the teachers' interest to have Democrats in office. Things have minimally shifted when Democrats were unable to protect unions during recent attempts to break unions.

Now why is it that Liberals drift toward the profession initially? My guess is Liberals tend to be more inclined to want to help people perceived to be in need, which is the biggest thing I like about Liberals. They tend to believe every individual deserves an equal chance and feel compelled to extend that chance through whatever means they can, whether through teaching, going abroad to help 3rd world underdeveloped citizens, that type of thing. I've always found those traits to be highly admirable, so this is NOT a knock or slight in any way.

Some professions just attract one political slant more than others. Accountants tend to be more Conservative would be an example of the opposite to teachers being Liberal.

Now, while the students can independently form their own opinions, the fact remains teachers will explain things from their perspective regardless of how many rules or laws demand they present material in a neutral fashion. Enough studies have been done to show people express themselves in many ways and their views become evident regardless of what is said. Whether through inflections, body language, phrasing, or follow up questions, the true feelings are presented. Now some are better at explaining both sides than others, or remaining neutral about topics, but definitely not all, and in my experience the more a person leans to an extreme the more their beliefs come through in their teaching, whether Liberal or Conservative.

Just because some of you wish to be combative about what I am saying does not make this more or less real, but take a moment and think back to who your teachers were and whether you can identify them as Liberal or Conservative. Some you won't know for certain, so those were the more moderate teachers. Others were pretty blatant and left little if any doubt. Try to tally up how many of each you experienced and whether or not you liked them as a teacher or not. You might be surprised at what is revealed about them and yourself.

But go ahead and keep bashing me as stupid or whatever, as that is far easier than taking a breath and considering what I am saying and thinking it through.
 
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