Is this real life? (Post is about Trump.)

[Gulo Blue]

Left leaning people have probably given up on trying to understand the right by now, but I feel like the majority of right leaning or centrist people have to be asking "what the hell is going on with Trumps popularity?". Am I off base here? I cannot understand how he is being taken so seriously.

I understand that he's strung together a few reasonable sounding sentences, interspersed between the crazy BS, but how is that enough? How can anyone look at who he is, what his career has been, and take him seriously as a President?

 

[TheVictors]

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[tinselwolverine]

It's still four months before a single ballot will be cast in Dixville Notch.

 

[Thumb]

The scary thing is he really has no idea what the job of President is all about.

A week or so ago he was complaining that nobody says "Merry Christmas" anymore, but "Happy Holidays" and he said something like; "When I'm president Americans are going back to saying Merry Christmas".

So, so far his plan for "Making America Great Again" involves building a long as giant wall on the US/Mexican boarder, while tricking Mexico in to paying for it, insulting everyone possible then saying he was misunderstood, and using his executive powers to make sure the Wal-Mart cashier says "Merry Christmas" and not "Happy Holidays".

Jesus the thought of that buffoon in charge of both our military forces and nuclear arsenal honestly terrifies me.

 

[tigermud]

I can completely get why he's so popular people are feed up and mad as hell, he says things the silent majority agree with. He doesn't scare me anymore than Shillary bushes or O's already do. But I digress, the question was is this real life? hmmm well, what is real? Science says this is a hologram, and as such, can you or anyone else for that matter truly define real?

 

[jwlcosu]

My opinion: Conservatives flat no longer expect to win the Presidency. Demographics, today's cultural environment and reliance on government are such that the democrat nominee is a shoe-in, no matter who or what. If you know you have no chance, better to go down swinging and that is why the political outsiders, Trump, Carson and Fiorina, command 50% combined.

 

[Thumb]

My opinion: Conservatives flat no longer expect to win the Presidency. Demographics, today's cultural environment and reliance on government are such that the democrat nominee is a shoe-in, no matter who or what. If you know you have no chance, better to go down swinging and that is why the political outsiders, Trump, Carson and Fiorina, command 50% combined.

Did you make Grand Wizard yet?

Seriously, GTFO with that bullshit. The GOP has a solid majority in both the House and Senate. You guys lost in '08 because Bush had things so fucked up, and in '12 because you ran a dipshit who was actually caught saying he only cares about rich people. But go ahead and blame it on minorities who only elect guys who will give them welfare if you're that damn stupid.

The fact is if the GOP ran a centrist you guys would win easily, but the problem is the money in your party comes either from big business, the NRA and gun nuts, or the religious right. So now you're stuck with a clown show of candidates and blaming anyone but yourselves for you having them is a complete joke.

 

[tinselwolverine]

The fact is if the GOP ran a centrist you guys would win easily...

The Republicans just "fired" the nation's highest ranking elected Republican for being too much of a centrist...

 

[jwlcosu]

D blaming anyone but yourselves

Not blaming anyone and I'm not angry, although I admit I once was. I've reached a stage where it no longer bothers me.

 

[jwlcosu]

Name a GOP centrist, by the way. That's another way of saying career politician and why would anyone expect that person to make a difference? Henry Ford said it: "If you always do what you’ve always done, you’ll always get what you’ve always got."

Meanwhile, take a look at the careerists on the democrat side. Hillary, Bernie, Joe, each one older than the next. Really, it's funny. Sad, but funny. One of those careerists is a shoe-in. What a difference that's going to make.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Name a GOP centrist, by the way.

I'll go with Ronald Reagan.

Yeah, he's dead, and more importantly he's term limited out...

But he was the Chief Executive when the opposition party had a substantial legislative majority, yet crap got done nevertheless.

He and Tip O'Neill used to like to have drinks on Friday afternoons and ended up spending shitloads of money they didn't have.

 

[Thumb]

The Republicans just "fired" the nation's highest ranking elected Republican for being too much of a centrist...

I'm saying a centrist would be electable, not that he would have the support of his own party.

 

[Thumb]

Name a GOP centrist, by the way. That's another way of saying career politician and why would anyone expect that person to make a difference? Henry Ford said it: "If you always do what you?ve always done, you?ll always get what you?ve always got."

Meanwhile, take a look at the careerists on the democrat side. Hillary, Bernie, Joe, each one older than the next. Really, it's funny. Sad, but funny. One of those careerists is a shoe-in. What a difference that's going to make.

Nothing in this post makes any sense.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I'm saying a centrist would be electable, not that he would have the support of his own party.

McCain would have probably been electable, with tepid support within his own party...but like you said...Bush had just messed crap up so much for the Republicans that Abraham Lincoln couldn't have been elected in 2008.

 

[Thumb]

McCain would have probably been electable, with tepid support within his own party...but like you said...Bush had just messed crap up so much for the Republicans that Abraham Lincoln couldn't have been elected in 2008.

Exactly.

And I think McCain probably could have beaten Obama in 2012 if he had not run in 2008, and the name Palin was never mentioned outside Alaska.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Name a GOP centrist

What about the guy from Ohio?

 

[jwlcosu]

What about the guy from Ohio?

There are centrists, obviously, and Kasich is one. But again, a career politician. He'll say he's going to Washington to shake things up but come on, he's already been there and had his shot. What reason is there to think he's going to make a difference this time around? He should stay in Columbus and manage the state which, actually, he can do.

 

[Gulo Blue]

There are centrists, obviously, and Kasich is one. But again, a career politician. He'll say he's going to Washington to shake things up but come on, he's already been there and had his shot. What reason is there to think he's going to make a difference this time around? He should stay in Columbus and manage the state which, actually, he can do.

I guess I don't follow what ties 'name a GOP centrist' to the career politician thing. I don't see what's specific to the GOP. Name any centrist.

...or the point about career politicians shaking things up and making a difference. What Presidents have made the biggest changes? FDR? Career politician. Lincoln was a lawyer, but he was also serving in the Illinois House in his 20's and US House in his late 30's.

 

[Thumb]

I guess I don't follow what ties 'name a GOP centrist' to the career politician thing. I don't see what's specific to the GOP. Name any centrist.

...or the point about career politicians shaking things up and making a difference. What Presidents have made the biggest changes? FDR? Career politician. Lincoln was a lawyer, but he was also serving in the Illinois House in his 20's and US House in his late 30's.

He mentions Hillary as a career politician, but she never ran for anything until 2000 when she was 53 years old.

 

[jwlcosu]

I guess I don't follow what ties 'name a GOP centrist' to the career politician thing. I don't see what's specific to the GOP. Name any centrist.

...or the point about career politicians shaking things up and making a difference. What Presidents have made the biggest changes? FDR? Career politician. Lincoln was a lawyer, but he was also serving in the Illinois House in his 20's and US House in his late 30's.

I mentioned the GOP because of the point of the thread. Both parties have centrists, I suppose. But seriously, what do these people ever accomplish? Most houses have oatmeal in the pantry, if not something equally mushy. And with respect to FDR and Lincoln, that's a pretty deep dive into history, no? The world is radically different since even just Reagan.

Here's what's going to happen. Bank on it:

1. Biden will enter. He can't help himself. He's been in the game since he was 29 and lives to be re-elected. The only thing left when you've been there near 45 years is to be President. He willl take full advantage of the public sympathy that exists for the personal tragedies he's endured.

2. Dems who pay any attention at all are looking for a reason to run screaming from Hillary. They'll hang with her, however, and rationalize anything until a viable alternative appears. Bernie is not viable, Joe is.

3. Joe will be elected and assume office at the ripe age of 74. A mere 45 years after entering government. That guy has been eating at the public trough for longer than many here have been alive!

4. Gamechanger or continuing the arc of history?