Lions lowball George Johnson Bucs sign him to 3 year offer sheet

[tonyballs]

Lkp in 2025:

Lkp: Stafford year 17 > stafford year 16.

Everyone else: But we havent won a playoff game in those 16 years?

Lkp: Superbowl 2025

Tony: but tell me who could you possibly get to replace him?

Everyone else: replace not winning anything in 16 years....well, just about anyone on the planet, tony.

And this is why you're a fkn retard.

 

[tonyballs]

That was depressing read. I am pretty sure we messed up with that pick. How good would Donald look now?

Hinsight is so much fun eh!!!!

 

[tonyballs]

Nothing like wasting a top 10 pick on a 3rd option. Great drafting.

This is the dumbest comment ever...lol. So CJ and Tate are our #1 and #2 options. So does that mean you don't pick another offensive weapon? Get your fkn head out of the sand, buddy.

 

[tonyballs]

Ok, usually I don't pay any attention to the Nancy's and their constant bitching.......but this comment is 100% true.

It can't even be argued. I'm sure LKP will try, though.

It's very similar to drafting a nickle back at #10. Just a really, REALLY bad pick. It's nothing against Ebron either, but unless he turns into Jimmy Graham......it's a terrible choice.

It's not even close to drafting a nickel CB. I don't get the argument. So you don't draft a WR or TE early because we have Calvin and Tate? You know how fkn retarded that sounds? Cmon bro!! CJ is on his last legs and most people want Pettigrew's head on a platter.

 

[tonyballs]

You needed to include an f'n for Tony.

HAHAHHHHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!

So good!!!

 

[boogerlovejoy]

It's not even close to drafting a nickel CB. I don't get the argument. So you don't draft a WR or TE early because we have Calvin and Tate? You know how fkn retarded that sounds? Cmon bro!! CJ is on his last legs and most people want Pettigrew's head on a platter.

LOL.....when did you fly off the sanity train??

So, drafting a guy at #10 who will be, AT BEST, a 3rd option in your offense is a good idea??

At #10?

Really??

You have more f'n brains than that, bro!!!!!

It's very similar to drafting a nickle back. He didn't open things up.....he didn't help at all in base sets. He didn't pose any sort of threat in the red zone. He was only used when the defense would put in certain packages.......just like a nickle. Would you draft a backup LB at #10. A backup DE? A backup QB? But Mayhew drafted a backup TE. Look, I hope Ebron pans out......but at #10.....he needs to be more Jimmy Graham or Gronk than Dion Sims (Dolphins TE.....4th round pick.....almost exact stats that Ebron had). Does Ebron have more talent, yes......but the production between those 2 last year was very similar.....which is NOT ok for a #10.

CJ on his last legs???? In the 11 healthy games he played, the guy averaged 6.2 REC/Game 96.1 YDS/Game and .72 TD/Game

EVERY ONE of those stats are above his career averages. But yeah, last legs.

 

[tonyballs]

LOL.....when did you fly off the sanity train??

So, drafting a guy at #10 who will be, AT BEST, a 3rd option in your offense is a good idea??

At #10?

Really??

You have more f'n brains than that, bro!!!!!

It's very similar to drafting a nickle back. He didn't open things up.....he didn't help at all in base sets. He didn't pose any sort of threat in the red zone. He was only used when the defense would put in certain packages.......just like a nickle. Would you draft a backup LB at #10. A backup DE? A backup QB? But Mayhew drafted a backup TE. Look, I hope Ebron pans out......but at #10.....he needs to be more Jimmy Graham or Gronk than Dion Sims (Dolphins TE.....4th round pick.....almost exact stats that Ebron had). Does Ebron have more talent, yes......but the production between those 2 last year was very similar.....which is NOT ok for a #10.

CJ on his last legs???? In the 11 healthy games he played, the guy averaged 6.2 REC/Game 96.1 YDS/Game and .72 TD/Game

EVERY ONE of those stats are above his career averages. But yeah, last legs.

If you think a TE is a starter, then YES you take him! How hard is that to figure out? So by your logic, anyone they took at 10 on the offensive side who catches the ball was a waste? Because we have Calvin and Tate? Jesus Christ that's moronic and you know it, man! Lol. For one, nobody is better than Calvin anyways and I think it's fair to say that Tate blew away any expectations of what he was supposed to do. Fair? Maybe they took Ebron thinking he could possibly be the #2 option. I highly doubt it, but it's possible. Now he's a #3 on a potential potent offense. That's a bad thing? I guess ODB would have made you angry then? We'll just stay away from offensive playmakers? Not the way it works bro...cmon

And you're smarter than that by making an outrageous claim like Ebron needs to be more Gronk like or Graham like in year 1 when it's a known fact that TE's struggle as rookies. And he struggled mightily. Now he needs to step up. And I don't think they went into the draft thinking Ebron was a backup. The kid struggled with the playbook and had some mishaps. It happens! Every team that drafts someone in the 1st rd is expecting that kid to shine.

And CJ is on his last legs IMO. The guy is constantly banged up and is missing more and more time on a consistent basis. I love CJ, but they seriously need to start looking for his replacement soon. You'll never fill that void, but you need to scout WRs harder than ever in the next couple of years.

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

It cracks me up when people complain about the third or fourth option. The most potent offenses in the league have very capable players through the roster. I said it last year that New Orleans and Green Bay would be taking recievers despite deep recieving corps. And they both did. If you want to be a good passing team recievers should always be looked at unless you have a once in a generation QB like Tom Brady.

 

[Mitchrapp]

We need 3rd and 4th options but drafting a TE at 10 to catch 25 balls for 250 is not good, even for a rookie. He definitely needs to get more done in '15.

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

We need 3rd and 4th options but drafting a TE at 10 to catch 25 balls for 250 is not good, even for a rookie. He definitely needs to get more done in '15.

Right, but for a rookie te it is actually pretty typical. Regardless of draft position. If year 2 is the same. Then I agree.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Right, but for a rookie te it is actually pretty typical. Regardless of draft position. If year 2 is the same. Then I agree.

A rookie TE..drafted at 10 is shit. He wasn't a 4th-5th round selection. It was a shit season.

 

[dubbsco]

Tony, you really need to make up your mind with Ebron. First you hated it, then you understood it, hated it, now you are defending it.

Here's the deal. When you have a great #1 and #2 in terms of WRs, and SUPPOSEDLY a QB that is one of the best in the league, spending a TOP 10 pick on a LUXURY (which a WR/TE pass-catching phenom) is an absolute waste. There have only been four TEs taken in the top 10 in the past 25 years. It makes this pick worse when you just signed your other TE to a four year contract.

There was plenty of other routes they could have gone. Basically everyone in the first round had a really good rookie year. Trade the pick, take Donald, anyone else. Lions went back to their Millen-style of drafting and thought they were the smartest cats in the room.

 

[mhughes0021]

It cracks me up when people complain about the third or fourth option. The most potent offenses in the league have very capable players through the roster. I said it last year that New Orleans and Green Bay would be taking recievers despite deep recieving corps. And they both did. If you want to be a good passing team recievers should always be looked at unless you have a once in a generation QB like Tom Brady.

They took their 3rd and 4th options in rds 2-4. Their 3rd and 4th options produced more than our top 10 pick. Thats called good value for them....and shitty value for us. Mayhew is king of shitty value.

 

[mhughes0021]

Tony, you really need to make up your mind with Ebron. First you hated it, then you understood it, hated it, now you are defending it.

Here's the deal. When you have a great #1 and #2 in terms of WRs, and SUPPOSEDLY a QB that is one of the best in the league, spending a TOP 10 pick on a LUXURY (which a WR/TE pass-catching phenom) is an absolute waste. There have only been four TEs taken in the top 10 in the past 25 years. It makes this pick worse when you just signed your other TE to a four year contract.

There was plenty of other routes they could have gone. Basically everyone in the first round had a really good rookie year. Trade the pick, take Donald, anyone else. Lions went back to their Millen-style of drafting and thought they were the smartest cats in the room.

The "he's the 3rd option" argument is bullshit anyways. When calvin went down did ebron become the 2nd option? No, he was invisible like always. Had trouble picking up tge offense, ran 1 route all year, dropped 3 touchdown passes, and was the opposite of a match up nightmare. Guy was awful....

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

The "he's the 3rd option" argument is bullshit anyways. When calvin went down did ebron become the 2nd option? No, he was invisible like always. Had trouble picking up tge offense, ran 1 route all year, dropped 3 touchdown passes, and was the opposite of a match up nightmare. Guy was awful....

He wasn't good. Just like slay looked lost his rookie year. What's your point? How often are top 10 picks pro bowl level players in year 1?

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

They took their 3rd and 4th options in rds 2-4. Their 3rd and 4th options produced more than our top 10 pick. Thats called good value for them....and shitty value for us. Mayhew is king of shitty value.

Okay so it's okay other teams take WR's but not us. Name me Mayhews first round wr picks? Sure his round 2 have been not very good. I'll give us that. But it's still a position with no depth and our number 1 is 30 and oft injured.

 

[dubbsco]

Lions, I can point to tons of rookies this past year that had a huge impact with their team.

No one said he needs to be a pro bowl year 1. But he didn't show us ANYTHING to validate the draft. Not to mention, he was drafted to be an immediate impact. You don't take a TE #10 and groom him along to be a guy that is important year 3,4.

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

Lions, I can point to tons of rookies this past year that had a huge impact with their team.

No one said he needs to be a pro bowl year 1. But he didn't show us ANYTHING to validate the draft. Not to mention, he was drafted to be an immediate impact. You don't take a TE #10 and groom him along to be a guy that is important year 3,4.

And I can point to lots more rookies who sucked year 1 and became good or great players.

Like I said, give him at least year 2. Not every player is awesome out the gates. Also for people comparing him to wr's its apples and oranges.

 

[Mitchrapp]

He wasn't good. Just like slay looked lost his rookie year. What's your point? How often are top 10 picks pro bowl level players in year 1?

Slay wasn't a 10 pick. Can't compare..

And pro bowl? Who's talking pro bowl, just adequate would work.

 

[dubbsco]

No it's not at all apples to oranges. He was basically touted by everyone including the people that drafted him as a pass-catching TE. In other words, a tall WR who happens to play tight end.