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Lions vs Bears predictions

detroit1811 said:
[color=#006400 said:
Mitch[/color]]

Struggling on the road? Lol. Its hard to win on the road. Slow starts or not they played well to get those W's.

They played well in the 2nd half and this past game had Tony Romo not bailed us out we wouldn't have won. I'm not knocking them or looking for something to pick at, its just the way its been. It took us making NFL history to win this past game, agaisnt a good team on the road we don't win that game.

I'm as happy as can be they beat Dallas, to be honest that was probably the best win we've had in many years, at least for me. To come back down that much on the road against Dallas was awesome. Regardless of all that we are still playing sloppy football on the road, even in that Tampa Bay game.

Thats why I think its imperative that we keep this hot streak going and win as many games as possible because if we don't take this division from the Packers (which is gonna be hard as hell to do) we are gonna have a hard time winning more then one playoff game (assuming we make it).

But they're road wins. They're not suppose to be easy and might look ugly at times but road wins are hard to get in he NFL. You think Frisco is "oh man but we were 20 points down, we need to get our shit together" - there are no bad wins on the road.
 
This game is a hard one to gauge. There are many variables. I do believe that the lions are a bit overrated at present. They are good, but not elite. The bears have lost to two elite teams and are a bit underrated in my estimation.

If Fairley is 100% and plays: 31-21 Lions

If Fairley is still out: 27-21 Bears
 
I didn't think Fairley would make such an impact, lol.

31-27 Lions.
 
sunnydlitex123 said:
This game is a hard one to gauge. There are many variables. I do believe that the lions are a bit overrated at present. They are good, but not elite. The bears have lost to two elite teams and are a bit underrated in my estimation.

If Fairley is 100% and plays: 31-21 Lions

If Fairley is still out: 27-21 Bears

If Fairley is worth 16 points a game, he is one heck of a player, and one heck of a steal at #13 overall
 
24-17 Bears because the Lions can't be 5-0 or the world will end.
 
sunnydlitex123 said:
This game is a hard one to gauge. There are many variables. I do believe that the lions are a bit overrated at present. They are good, but not elite. The bears have lost to two elite teams and are a bit underrated in my estimation.

If Fairley is 100% and plays: 31-21 Lions

If Fairley is still out: 27-21 Bears

+1

2 sacks and 1 stop can swing the game that much

Free up the whole line
 
To the poster who said we had road struggles:

Aside from the Lions, the road record for the rest of the league is 20-41.


A lot more teams are having struggles on the road than we are.
 
I think the Bears are going to try and run Forte and play a possession game... Keep away from Detroit... I hope it does not work....

Lions 31
Bears 13
 
sunnydlitex123 said:
This game is a hard one to gauge. There are many variables. I do believe that the lions are a bit overrated at present. They are good, but not elite. The bears have lost to two elite teams and are a bit underrated in my estimation.

If Fairley is 100% and plays: 31-21 Lions

If Fairley is still out: 27-21 Bears

Not sure Fairley is going to have that much of an impact even if he does play. I like him and all but his snaps will probably be limited the first week that he plays anyway. With or without Fairley I have picked the Lions 30-17. We have to play 4 quarters to get there though. Detroit should put up a couple of TDs and get Chicago throwing the ball...Then it is pass rush with our front 4 and let Jay Cutler make mistakes. Sounds like a good gameplan to me anyway!
 
I'm expecting us to come out fast and really control the game from start to finish. I'm going 31-17. Lions
 
My NFL Predictor was:

Red Zone eff
Takeaways/game
3rd down conv
TOP
OPP total yds

Placed high importance on red zone eff and takeaways.

Lions win 58.5% of the time with a score prediction of 23-20. Fun to use
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http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/football/nfl/predictor
 
LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- Detroit Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh said Thursday a quarterback repeatedly getting hit affects his demeanor and affects his team, and that's why Suh's plan for the Chicago Bears' Jay Cutler on Monday night is simple.

"I think the biggest thing for us is to make sure we're in his face and hitting him as much as we can."

"He's a guy that's gone through a lot," Suh said. "He's definitely kept his composure. But when you have a quarterback back there and he's repeatedly getting hit -- every single play or every other play -- it's definitely gonna have some effect on him. And it's gonna affect their team, his demeanor, and how they carry their offense.

"So I think the biggest thing for us is to make sure we're in his face and hitting him as much as we can."

Cutler has been sacked 15 times this season and was dropped 57 times -- including the playoffs -- last season. He admitted recently that being hit so often can tinker with the clock in his head and make him rush a throw, even if the pressure is more perceived than imminent.

But there was nothing perceived last December, when Suh generated a $15,000 fine from the NFL for what referee Ed Hoculi called "an unnecessary non-football act; a blow to the back of the runner's helmet in the process of him going down."

Does Suh cross the line with his physical play?

"That's up to the officials," Cutler said Thursday. "They'll do their best to watch us.

"I don't think you're gonna change his game. He's said it publicly. Just ask him; he'll tell you all about himself."

That's precisely what Suh did Thursday in speaking of his physical style that has drawn criticism from around the league. Suh said that people are "entitled to their opinion" on the matter, but nothing will change.

"Honestly, I really don't have a concern of why people think I may have crossed [the line] or not. I've said it many, many times before, and I'll say it again that I don't teeter-totter around that line," Suh said. "I feel that I play very hard and aggressive. That's how I got to where I am today; playing blue-collar football and really being physical, and doing the things I'm supposed to do and doing them with a hard nose.

"I'm gonna continue to play that way. I think it's one of the reasons I'm able to be successful."

Lions coach Jim Schwartz bristled when asked about the perception that Suh is a dirty player.

"He doesn't get very many flags," Schwartz told reporters during a conference call Thursday afternoon. "Go back and look at how many flags he's gotten over the year-plus that he's played. It's hard to have reaction for something like that. It makes for talk amongst people like [media] or fans or something like that. But there's a perception, reality there, I think. ... He hasn't been flagged very much and the reason is he's a good, hard football player. He's out there playing as hard as he can."

Schwartz reiterated just how high the Lions organization is on the young defensive force.

"One of the things we liked about him when he came out in the draft was [that you] really couldn't compare him to anybody else," Schwartz said. "He has some unique characteristics. He's extremely strong. He's alive on every single play. He's very difficult to knock off his feet. He's good against the run, he's good against the pass. He's a hard worker. He's very, very serious about his craft. He's consistent from week to week.

"You said have you ever had a player like that? The answer is no. It's not that there haven't been players that are as good or better or anything else, it's just that his qualities are unique. When it's all said and done, you're not going to compare Ndamukong Suh to anybody else. He's going to stand on his own. On his own talents, on his own production, on his own merits."

The 2010 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year, Suh drew a $20,000 fine from the league for throwing Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton to the ground during a preseason game. Suh received two fines last season for hits on Cutler and former Cleveland quarterback Jake Delhomme in a preseason game.

Asked whether Suh's game was built on intimidation, Cutler said, "I don't have to block him. You can talk to [offensive lineman] Lance [Louis] and those guys. I don't go against the guy every play."

Suh, meanwhile, insisted it's not his intention to knock quarterbacks out of the game, but laughed at his own remarks just seconds later.

"I like rattling a quarterback and having him frustrated," Suh said. "If he unfortunately takes a tough hit that he has to leave the game, so be it. That's not necessarily my concern."

When questioned about whether Suh tried to intimidate him the last time the players met, Cutler said, "I don't talk to the dude."

Suh's hit on Cutler in the fourth quarter of Chicago's 24-20 victory last December resulted in an automatic first down at the Detroit 7, which allowed the Bears -- behind 20-17 at the time -- to rally for the win.

Bears offensive lineman Lance Louis said the team won't worry about Suh's reputation when the teams meet on Monday night, adding that it's important to avoid getting "caught up in the moment" in dealing with the defensive tackle.

"At the end of the day, if he's going to do things after the whistle, they've got people who can deal with that," Louis said.

Bears cornerback Zack Bowman played college ball with Suh at Nebraska, and indicated his former teammate has a more pleasant demeanor than his reputation suggests. Bowman said that during Suh's freshman year at Nebraska, the defensive tackle "literally pick[ed] up a car from the front and lift[ed] the whole thing up. I was like, 'Get out of here.'"

Bowman said he and Suh meet for dinner in the offseason and that "he's a nice guy," but when the defensive tackle takes the field, "he just turns into the Hulk."

"I think he has intent to harm anybody he's in front of. That's just his attitude, his mentality," Bowman said. "I had the opportunity this offseason to work out with him, and that's just his focus; to get out there -- I wouldn't say to kill you -- but to hurt you. I think he's on the line [between being aggressive and dirty] on both, but that's just him. That's the type of player he wants to be in this league."
 
[color=#006400 said:
Mitch[/color]]
detroit1811 said:
They played well in the 2nd half and this past game had Tony Romo not bailed us out we wouldn't have won. I'm not knocking them or looking for something to pick at, its just the way its been. It took us making NFL history to win this past game, agaisnt a good team on the road we don't win that game.

I'm as happy as can be they beat Dallas, to be honest that was probably the best win we've had in many years, at least for me. To come back down that much on the road against Dallas was awesome. Regardless of all that we are still playing sloppy football on the road, even in that Tampa Bay game.

Thats why I think its imperative that we keep this hot streak going and win as many games as possible because if we don't take this division from the Packers (which is gonna be hard as hell to do) we are gonna have a hard time winning more then one playoff game (assuming we make it).

But they're road wins. They're not suppose to be easy and might look ugly at times but road wins are hard to get in he NFL. You think Frisco is "oh man but we were 20 points down, we need to get our shit together" - there are no bad wins on the road.

Yes any road win is a good win, but I don't see how anyone can deny they were ugly wins. If you could ask Schwartz that question he will tell you the same thing. We had to make NFL history to win that Dallas game. TO do what we wanna do this season we will have to play a whole hell of a lot better on the road.

Also I really don't see why people are worrying about this game. To me, outside of the Chiefs game, this is the easiest game we've played so far.

People keep talking about Forte and how they are gonna play ball control, but thats an idiotic statement. They have MIKE MARTZ as their offensive coordinator. Thats just not how he plays. Forte averaged less then 12 carries per game and less then 40 rushing yards per game in the three games prior. Then they played Carolina who has really awful interior line play and who just lost two their starting LB'ers to injury. This is not a dominate rushing attack and even when they play well Martz very rarely sticks with the run. If you wanna worry about Forte, worry about him catching passes out of the backfield because that is what will kill us.

On top of that their O-Line is awful and they are missing their best player (Gabe Carimi). There passing attack is also pretty terrible so just play 8 man fronts and key on Forte coming out of the backfield.

We are at home, playing our first Monday Night game in what 10 years, and we are 4-0. That crowd is gonna been ridiculous and there is no way we come out flat, especially after what happened in this stadium against the Bears last year. You think this team doesn't remember that and doesn't wanna embarrass them. You think Calvin isn't ready to dominate after what happened last time. Looking at this game I just see no way we lose it, and I'm not even completely sold on this Lions team yet. I think we are pretty damn good, but we aren't there yet. I think we will have a hell of a time keeping up with the Saints and Packers.

I guess we will see come Monday, but my question isn't whether we are gonna win or not, its by how much. Like I said in a previous post I'm thinking 38-17 with Cutler getting picked off 3 times and taking 6 sacks. This is gonna be a bad game for the Bears.
 
detroit1811 said:
[color=#006400 said:
Mitch[/color]]

But they're road wins. They're not suppose to be easy and might look ugly at times but road wins are hard to get in he NFL. You think Frisco is "oh man but we were 20 points down, we need to get our shit together" - there are no bad wins on the road.

Yes any road win is a good win, but I don't see how anyone can deny they were ugly wins. If you could ask Schwartz that question he will tell you the same thing.

And he'd also tell you road wins are hard to get and thus good wins. The mans not stupid.
 
After thinking about it, the Bears best chance to keep the score close or to have even a remote chance to hold a lead for most of the game and win, is to at the very least, limit the Lions to a FG before they score to tie or go ahead, or to score first by kicking a FG or obviously much better still, a TD, otherwise the 12th Lions player on the field will be the almost continually deafening crowd noise during the entire game. If the Lions can score 10 to 16 points before the Bears can score, then they most likely will get blown out, IMO.

So...should the Lions kick a FG first, and the Bears follow with a TD, Lions 28 Bears 24...or

The Bears score a TD first, Lions follow with kicking a FG, Bears 30 Lions 20...or

The Bears kick a FG first, Lions follow with a TD, Lions 24 Bears 17...or

The Lions score twice first by kicking a FG and a TD or vice-versa, Lions 38 Bears 17...or

The Lions score twice by two TDs first, Lions 45 Bears 10

Don't think that the Bears will be able to score at least twice before the Lions get on the scoreboard, ala the last two games on the road, or as a matter of fact, its b/c I really don't want to...haha!!

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Won't be any good for my BP or my ticker, IF the Lions must yet again have to yank a second half victory, from the jaws of a double-digit first half deficit via turnovers and several acrobatic Stafford-Megatron hookups, w/ two being in the Bears endzone.
 
There was a stat on ESPN that when Cutler passes over 32 times the Bears are something like 2-24 but completely different when the run the ball more.
 
[color=#551A8B said:
Rich what? Richmond![/color]]There was a stat on ESPN that when Cutler passes over 32 times the Bears are something like 2-24 but completely different when the run the ball more.

Would you rather see Cutler with the ball or Forte. Pretty simple really.
 
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