Maddon Cubs, Hurdle Pirates, Ausmus angels, Callaway mets, Kapler Phillies fired

[kalinecountry]

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27722498/cubs-maddon-parting-ways-5-big-seasons
Cubs, Maddon parting ways after 5 big seasons.
espn

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/09/joe-maddon-out-as-cubs-manager.html
Joe Maddon Out As Cubs Manager.
MLBTR

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...ager-clint-hurdle-gm-neal-huntington-stay-put
Pittsburgh Pirates fire manager Clint Hurdle.
espn

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/09/pirates-fire-clint-hurdle.html
Pirates Fire Clint Hurdle.
MLBTR

 

[byco42]

Ausmus better be dusting up his resume. If any MLB team will hire him. I am not optimistic.

 

[jas5lf]

Angels just fired Brad Ausmus. Hahaha!!

 

[byco42]

Fait Accompli that Bad Ausmess would be canned and Maddon named the successor.

 

[tomdalton22]

Fait Accompli that Bad Ausmess would be canned and Maddon named the successor.

Maddon can probably pick his job. I don't know why he would pick the Angels. Outside of Trout, they don't have much talent...especially in the pitching department.

 

[byco42]

Maddon can probably pick his job. I don't know why he would pick the Angels. Outside of Trout, they don't have much talent...especially in the pitching department.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is why. And the time to improve the team.

EDIT: Also, Maddon has a long history with the Angels.

 

[turok]

Angels just fired Brad Ausmus. Hahaha!!

I loled harder when the Angels hired him...and on a 3 year contract, to boot...WTF were they thinking?:shrug:

 

[byco42]

I loled harder when the Angels hired him...and on a 3 year contract, to boot...WTF were they thinking?:shrug:

:hmm: No idea. Were the Angels not paying attention to the train wreck Ausmus engineered in Detroit?

 

[Mitchrapp]

The Angels were already a train wreck. 2014, they win 98 games, followed by 85 and then 74 the next two seasons. And then 2 sub .500 teams. They need a new GM not a new coach. His last year in Detroit they fell apart after everyone was traded, well most everyone. Aug. 5 to seasons end we were 13-41. Certainly not all his fault.

 

[Rebbiv]

Talent certainly is what it takes to win games. I am in the camp that believes a manager cannot add more to a team's wins total, but he certainly can add to the loses. Enter Brad Ausmus. He is terrible at handling starting pitching/bull pen. In addition, his teams were known to lack fundamentals when playing the game, again a hit on his managerial skills (or lack thereof).

 

[byco42]

The Angels were already a train wreck. 2014, they win 98 games, followed by 85 and then 74 the next two seasons. And then 2 sub .500 teams. They need a new GM not a new coach. His last year in Detroit they fell apart after everyone was traded, well most everyone. Aug. 5 to seasons end we were 13-41. Certainly not all his fault.

No idea. Were the Angels not paying attention to the train wreck Ausmus engineered in Detroit?

 

[Mitchrapp]

No idea. Were the Angels not paying attention to the train wreck Ausmus engineered in Detroit?

What train wreck? You mean when they traded their best players and went from 51-57 to 64-98? I'm not praising Ausmus to be some great manager but most of that was not his fault.

 

[byco42]

What train wreck? You mean when they traded their best players and went from 51-57 to 64-98? I'm not praising Ausmus to be some great manager but most of that was not his fault.

The 2014 ALCS was 50% his fault, IMO.

 

[tomdalton22]

The 2014 ALCS was 50% his fault, IMO.

iirc JV and Max both had bad games and the hitters sucked pretty much the entire series.

 

[byco42]

iirc JV and Max both had bad games and the hitters sucked pretty much the entire series.

Game 2 was 95% on Ausmus, thanks to bottom of the 8th. He stuck a stick of dynamite in the anus of a sure win and lit the fuse. Going back to DET 1-1 after losing G1 was in the bag, until Lizard-Brain interfered.

 

[tomdalton22]

Game 2 was 95% on Ausmus, thanks to bottom of the 8th. He stuck a stick of dynamite in the anus of a sure win and lit the fuse. Going back to DET 1-1 after losing G1 was in the bag, until Lizard-Brain interfered.

I still blame the actual players...Joba and Soria. You have a 3 run lead, as a manager you have to trust the guys you have.

 

[byco42]

I still blame the actual players...Joba and Soria. You have a 3 run lead, as a manager you have to trust the guys you have.

Sanchez pitched a seamless 1-2-3 sixth and seventh on 30 pitches. But, no -- gotta put in the "8th-inning guy." BA was watching Sanchez's "pitch count". It was a decision led by fear and uncertainty, as was his entire managerial stay with the Tigers.

 

[tomdalton22]

I prefer to blame the actual player that didn't do his job vs. the manager who put him in the game.

 

[byco42]

I prefer to blame the actual player that didn't do his job vs. the manager who put him in the game.

I blame the manager for perpetual lack of imagination and creativity, of which this was one of the more glaring examples. Sanchez was dominating. There was no reason to pull him from the game after the 7th inning. The Ausmus "30 pitches was a stretch" claim ? the guy was cruising. And Joba didn't retire any of the batters had he faced the day before.

But, hey, were talking about a guy pitches to Jose Altuve with the winning run on third base and two outs, to avoid pitching to Preston Tucker, a .160 hitter sitting on the bench. So, it's business as usual. EDIT

 

[Mitchrapp]

The 2014 ALCS was 50% his fault, IMO.

That's a bit high don't you think? Players>Coaches.