Next year's starting five

[bdtay71]

Anyone wanna take a stab at who they think will be the starting five next year? I'm gonna go with:

PG - Burke
SG - Hardaway
SG - G-Rob III
PF - Smotrycz
PF - McGary

So Burke, Hardaway and McGary are no brainers. I think Smotz will play with Mcgary because he can shoot and handle the rock exceptionally well for a big man. I really see Morgan as the guy you want as McGary's sub for defense and rebounding more than trying to mesh the two. I wouldn't be surprised to see Vogrich playing the other guard due to experience and his outside shooting abilities. With a true inside presence he should really get a chance to hit the open 3's next season and have a huge year whether it's off the bench or in a starting role. Brundridge is obviously going to be in the mix for that spot as well as Staskas. I have a feeling Staskas is going to turn out to be our main ball handler when Burke rests so I see him coming off the bench next season but still getting some significant playing time. I really hope that everyone has their ego in check with the talent coming in next year because I haven't even mentioned Horford or Bielfeldt. JB is going to have his work cut out for him keeping everyone happy next year.

 

[Monster]

It'll be nice to have so much more size next year. I think that was our main downfall this year. If Horford had been healthy i think we would have easily won the B1G and still been playing.

 

[Monster]

size and ATHLETICISM...I should say.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I was gonna wait until December...but...

Smotrycz starting ahead of Morgan?

I don't think so....

 

[bdtay71]

TinselWolverine[/color]]I was gonna wait until December...but...

Smotrycz starting ahead of Morgan?

I don't think so....

I could be wrong but I really think that once you insert McGary in the line-up, Morgan brings very little to the table. Dude can't make a shot from more than 5 feet away and will just be in the way down low....IMHO.

 

[allshouldbleedblue]

G-Burke/Brundridge
G-Hardaway/Vogrich
G-GR3/Stauskas
F-Smotz/Horford
F-Mcgrary/Morgan

That is a really good starting lineup with backups that we can actually count on and that doesnt even include bielfeldt. this team will be really deep next year. if the frosh can come in and produce this team could go deep just on the fact that we will prove in size and athleticism and wont be sucking air at the end of the season because of us actually being able to use a bench.

 

[wheels002]

I think it will really depend on who we are playing. Say we alre playing Sparty who have Payne and Nix then I would start Morgan. However if we are playing a team that is guard oriented then you could go with Smotz. JB will have more depth and also be able to mix and match better. And we have Horford as well.

 

[biggunsbob]

MORE DEPTH YES!!!!!!!!

 

[tinselwolverine]

TinselWolverine[/color]]I was gonna wait until December...but...

Smotrycz starting ahead of Morgan?

I don't think so....

I could be wrong but I really think that once you insert McGary in the line-up, Morgan brings very little to the table. Dude can't make a shot from more than 5 feet away and will just be in the way down low....IMHO.

Right.

The only big man in a four guard starting lineup that won a share of the B1G Championship.

Every Michigan player came up short against Ohio, not just Morgan.

It was team loss.

Much of Michigan's success and rejuvenaton over the last two years can be attributed to Morgan.

Morgan has started every game for Michigan each of the last two years; which happens to be the last time Michigan has made the big dance twice in a row since...whenever the fuck it was.

What Michigan has needed all season is another big; not a big and Smotrycz, because Michigan already had a big and Smotrycz this season; that big being Morgan.

Morgan is going to be a starter next year.

I'm about the dumbest follower of Michigan basketball on this board, and even I know that.

 

[hailhail]

Yeah give me Morgan and McGary in the frontcourt. I'm happy that finding minutes down low for Horford and Smotz is finally a problem we re going to have, though they'll both definitely get theirs.

 

[dubbsco]

Morgan and McGary need to start together. That will be a damn good frontline in terms of sheer rebounding ability, something that Michigan has lacked for a long time.

 

[deathroh]

If McGary's numbers at Oak Hill...er, whatever D1 factory he's playing at are indicative of his offensive ability then I don't think we'll see Beilein playing them together all that much. But, I don't think they necessarily are, and I hope we do.

IMO Hardaway has some work to do this summer to guarantee his 30 minutes a game.

 

[Michchamp]

Monster [/color]]size and ATHLETICISM...I should say.

and depth.

as the bitterness of the loss from Friday goes away, I'm thinking the inability to really play with the lineup hurts. just not enough depth.

but yeah, size and athleticism is another thing. if you can get points in the paint easily, you don't have to worry about hitting jump shots. no more living and dying by the three.

I think the image from last Friday that will stick in my memory was late in the game, we missed a layup, and the only Michigan player under the basket trying to tip in the rebound was Novak... WAY undersized and outnumbered by the ohio guys crashing the boards. Of course, he missed the tip in.

 

[bdtay71]

I think it will really depend on who we are playing. Say we alre playing Sparty who have Payne and Nix then I would start Morgan. However if we are playing a team that is guard oriented then you could go with Smotz. JB will have more depth and also be able to mix and match better. And we have Horford as well.

Good point.

 

[bdtay71]

TinselWolverine[/color]]

I could be wrong but I really think that once you insert McGary in the line-up, Morgan brings very little to the table. Dude can't make a shot from more than 5 feet away and will just be in the way down low....IMHO.

Right.

The only big man in a four guard starting lineup that won a share of the B1G Championship.

Every Michigan player came up short against Ohio, not just Morgan.

It was team loss.

Much of Michigan's success and rejuvenaton over the last two years can be attributed to Morgan.

Morgan has started every game for Michigan each of the last two years; which happens to be the last time Michigan has made the big dance twice in a row since...whenever the fuck it was.

What Michigan has needed all season is another big; not a big and Smotrycz, because Michigan already had a big and Smotrycz this season; that big being Morgan.

Morgan is going to be a starter next year.

I'm about the dumbest follower of Michigan basketball on this board, and even I know that.

Is that you Jordan? I mean really, the point of the post was not to rip on Morgan. I agree that he has been a key player on the team. However, so were Novak and Douglass and nobody is going to argue that they lacked talent. Morgan was a key contributor because of his defense and rebounding. IMO, he will be replaced by a big that can play defense, rebound and create offense down low. Morgan's offense was only existent if Burke could turn the corner on the high pick and roll. You didn't see Morgan posting up and anyone feeding him the rock down low when the pick and roll was taken away, did you? This is not to say that the two can't start together but given that Beilien likes to spread things out it only makes sense to me that Smotz starts with McGary and Morgan subs in to keep the big man presence when McGary is out. Plus, if McGary is even 3/4 as talented as the experts say then teams are going to try and clog the middle on him and a guy like Smotz is going to make them pay. Morgan would just be left alone at no cost. In the end it's for JB to figure out and a nice problem to have.

 

[biggunsbob]

My starting five right now are... Now this can all change due to a numbers of things but there will be plenty of minutes because Morgan and ES can't stay out of foul trouble on most nights and i think all the players will see a lot of minutes. Burke played way to much this year and his minutes need to come down a tad... I really think more and different defenses will be able to be played with more depth..

Pg - Burke
Sg- Hardaway
c- Mcgary
Pf Morgan
Sf Evan S.

First off the bench
Vogrich
Horford
GR3
Nik S.
Max
Carlton B.

 

[mjsb2]

biggunsbob[/color]]My starting five right now are... Now this can all change due to a numbers of things but there will be plenty of minutes because Morgan and ES can't stay out of foul trouble on most nights and i think all the players will see a lot of minutes. Burke played way to much this year and his minutes need to come down a tad... I really think more and different defenses will be able to be played with more depth..

Pg - Burke
Sg- Hardaway
c- Mcgary
Pf Morgan
Sf Evan S.

First off the bench
Vogrich
Horford
GR3
Nik S.
Max
Carlton B.

I'll be real disappointed if GR3 isn't starting.

 

[allshouldbleedblue]

as will i

 

[biggunsbob]

Not all freshman can start right out of the gate and asking two to start over kids that have put in the work is asking for trouble chemistry wise... Let them all ease into roles and let things develop..I have no doubt GR3 is a better player then both Evan and Morgan but we have to see his whole package and that includes defense.. Now way GR3 starts over Morgan because he is not going to be up to speed defensively yet. I can see him over Evan but again we will have to wait and see.. Whats to be disappointing over... Be happy if everyone stays at the added depth we will have... Maybe it won't be a problem and Evan and Morgan can come off the bench but I doubt is starts that way..

 

[deathroh]

Your main problem Bob is that you have Smotrycz at the 3, a position he hasn't played yet at Michigan, and IMO won't. His value is at the 4 where he can draw out opposing PF's. Plus, we've all seen the trouble he gets into when trying to guard quicker players on the perimeter. He'd have two fouls on him before the first tv timeout.

The path is actually very clear for Robinson to start. Hardaway could play some 3 if they go small, but I really don't see him starting there. The only other guy close to a "true" 3 that Michigan has is Vogrich, and that's a stretch. I do think that Vogrich is going to have an increased role next year, but the majority of that may have to do with leadership rather than playing time. He's the last person I'd be worried about rocking the boat if he doesn't start, and I don't think he will start, for quite a few reasons.