Public verses Private schools

[biggunsbob]

This issue is still in the pipeline as of last year ... here's some information on it.
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Dueling High School showcases spark public-private controversy

By (ME)

Novi Varsity hockey head coach Todd Krygier has these black-coal eyes that glow with intensity when he gets passionate over a topic.

At the forefront of his mind presently is the initiative to institute a wholesale reform in the playoff structure of all Michigan High School Athletic Association programs, from basketball to bowling.

It?s a topic that he certainly wanted to get on the table immediately.

When asked about the logistics involved in organizing the inaugural Michigan Public High School Hockey 2011 Invitational Showcase, held from Feb. 9-12 at Chelsea?s Arctic Coliseum, he quickly addressed the issues that caused its staging on the very same weekend as the Michigan Interscholastic Hockey League Showcase held in Trenton.

?We organized some core coaches into a steering committee,? said Krygier. ?They contacted more and more coaches to see if there was interest and support for the issues that we have.?

Those issues are displayed prominently on mphsh.com for anyone to review.

Krygier and his fellow coaches claim that the figurative and literal playing fields upon which High-School athletes compete in the state of Michigan is unfairly slanted to favor private school athletic programs.

?Hockey is the catalyst that has fueled the issue,? said Krygier. ?But hockey is one small part of the picture. The real issue is that there is a private school business model and a public school business model. The public schools are schools of accommodation. Private schools are entrepreneurial enterprises, and many build their programs around sports and good academics.?

Krygier and other public school hockey coaches believe that MSHAA rules and regulations put the public schools at a disadvantage.

?The reality is that there are different rules between private and public schools,? said Chelsea head coach Don Wright. ?We look at it from the standpoint that there should be different state championships for public and private schools.?

?Private schools are beating public schools on a consistent basis in the state playoffs, and it allows the private schools to say that they are better,? said Krygier. ?We?re not talking about a competitive balance here.?

There?s a case to be made in some sports, and within some divisions, but not in others. In regards to hockey, private programs have captured nine of the last 11 Division 1 titles. Novi Catholic Central has seven of those nine. In Division 3, it?s the same ratio - nine of 11, with Cranbrook owning six. In Division 2, however, 10 of the last 11 titles have been won by public programs, with Trenton capturing five.

Brother Rice has won every Division 1 lacrosse state title since 2005, and private schools have won three of six in that same time frame in Division 2.

However, in football, private programs have won 4 of the last 12 state championships in Division 1. In Division 2, it?s one of the last 12. And in Division 3, no private school has won a state championship since the 1999 restructuring that divided football into eight playoff divisions.

In basketball, the last private school to win a Class A state championship was Detroit Catholic Central in 1976. In Class B, the last four championships have been captured by private schools. In Class C, private schools have won four of the last 11. In Class D, it?s six of the last 11.

Finally, baseball. Private schools have won a total 15 of 52 championships awarded across all four divisions since 1998.

Still, in light of this mixed evidence, several hockey programs with a long history of participation in the MIHL showcase opted to participate in the Michigan Public High School Hockey 2011 Invitational Showcase - namely Novi, Brighton, Farmington, Howell and Clarkston - to protest the perceived inequity across all sports and to support the proposed reform of separating public and private schools come playoff time.

Not all public school coaches agree with the tactics used to promote the playoff reform.

?There is a process by which things can change at the High-School level,? said Trenton head coach Mike Turner, like starting with going though the Coach?s Association. ?There were 36 schools in last years MIHL Showcase, and 27 of them were public programs.?

That includes Marquette, which participated in both the Public and the MIHL Showcases.

?My opinion was to have the (Public Showcase) on a different weekend,? said Marquette head coach Joe Papin, ?and not to interfere with the (MIHL) Showcase. I understand the argument completely, and we know what its like to beat a private school for a state championship. But we know there are inequalities, and that?s what the Public Showcase is trying to state.?

Some disagree with the whole premise of inequality.

?There?s no validity to their argument,? said Novi Catholic Central head coach Todd Johnson. ?That private schools have had an unfair advantage over the public schools across all sports has been an argument across all 50 states and across all sports that the National Federation (of State High School Associations) sponsors.?

?It?s an ongoing argument,? said Turner. ?You can go back 50 years to when I was playing hockey in Detroit.?

To Johnson, and to other officials of the MIHL Showcase, targeting the same weekend to stage the Public Showcase only weakens the institution of High-School hockey in the state of Michigan.

?The one thing we?ve always supported is a ?United We Stand? approach. We all have competition for players from the Travel ranks. We were working together for a while to promote High School hockey,? said Johnson. ?Even though we?re not all pulling in the same direction now, we don?t want them to fail. We told them, ?Have your Public Showcase; we?ll support you. We?ll drive scouts to your event. Just don?t have it on the same weekend.? Obviously, they had intent to keep it on the same weekend for a reason.?

Krygier and the steering committee has no plans to change the weekend of next year?s Public Showcase until the reform they are championing transpires. The gears are turning, and not slowly.

?Jack Roberts (president of the MSHAA) has heard a presentation delivered by the athletic directors from the KLAA (Kensington Lakes Activities Association) and they informed him that they will be moving forward, with or without him.?

The proposal will also be heard at the Athletic Directors? State Convention in March, with the ultimate goal of a formal presentation to the MHSAA.

?I?m also suggesting that if the MHSAA is not going to move to separation in state playoffs, then public-school programs should no longer schedule private-school programs in the regular season,? said Krygier. ?I?m going to promote that until there is change. Things are really moving behind the scenes.?

That includes public schools separating from the MSHAA, according to Krygier, if that organization does not comply to these proposed reforms.

?There are plans in progress right now, maybe a couple years away,? said Krygier. ?We believe that we can make our programs even more attractive than the private school programs if we did separate from the MSHAA.?

As for the cadre of public school hockey coaches who were MIHL Showcase regulars and separated to build their own event, Johnson said:

?We?re not waiting for them, I can tell you that. We?re moving forward, and we?re going to get better every year."

Great article ... Thanks for posting it B.

 

[byco42]

Truly talented HS Hockey kids go and play Compuware, etc and leave HS altogether, no..?

Depends on the program in a large way. My own son played for UD Jesuit in the MIHL for three years. Had he gone to Royal Oak High School, he'd have played Midget Major. CC, Rice, Cranbrook, OLSM, De La Salle; they have most of the best players in their program. Not all, though. Cranbrook gets by with the kids that come out and most of them are retained on either the JV or Varsity. Granted, many kids go there to play hockey, but they don't get 60 kids trying out every year like other schools do.

In the Metro area and in Marquette (in a strange way) there might be a K constant of kids moving back and forth between AAA and HS. But by no means does AAA have all the best players anymore. On the west side of the state, the kids mostly play HS. Same above the 45th parallel. There aren't many AAA programs up there.

Looking at the proliferation of HS kids on college hockey rosters illustrates the dramatic spike in the quality of play there over the past 10 years or so.

 

[byco42]

Great article ... Thanks for posting it B.

Welcome. That move caused a lot of discord in the coaching ranks. Some of the public programs that "defected" have returned to the Showcase held in Trenton every February.

 

[byco42]

why don't you tell us where Traverse City stands in the public/private debate?

I doubt it's much of an issue as it applies to hockey. More of one is the tug-of-war between Travel (AA) and High School. Central and West have very good programs. St. Francis is not a powerhouse by any means. There's also a Bay Area Reps program that draws from seven schools. The main concern there is that families are struggling with the expense of the sport.

 

[TheVictors]

I can easily recall when Howe Ice Arena was built and replaced the "bubble" at Civic Center. I didn't realize West & Central had separate Hockey teams, but I guess that makes sense and I'm sure there's enough talent (aka, supply).

St. Francis never had Hockey but kids from the school played for TCHS back in my day. They did win State title in baseball and come close again in the early-90's and I believe they won the football State title recently.

The TC Football stadium Thirlby Field holds something like 10,000 fans. It was very Friday Night Lights when I was in Jr High and you'd go meet your girlfriend at the game and make out under the bleachers, rather than watch the game.

 

[biggunsbob]

Public schools go 3-1 in the head to head match-ups this year.

Ishpeming over Detroit Loyola...
Portland of Grand Rapids West Catholic.
Detroit Cass Tech over Detroit Catholic Central
BBR over Muskegon..