Religion and homosexuality

[tinselwolverine]

I had you pegged as being more visionary than that, Tinsel. Everything is possible in the brave new world.

This is the thing - in the unlikely event that this would happen, as we have all seen, judges - both conservative leaning judges and liberal leaning judges - have a pretty good handle on making shit up out of whole cloth as they go along.

I think it would be just this simple, this is how I would rule:

"The court rules that the plaintiffs are not being denied the benefits and protections that marriage provides, because as immediate family members, they already enjoy those benefits and protections inherently. Court rules in favor of the state."

Then I would go and fuck my hot law clerk.

And I doubt any appellate court would hear a review.

 

[tomdalton22]

I think it would be just this simple, this is how I would rule:

"The court rules that the plaintiffs are not being denied the benefits and protections that marriage provides, because as immediate family members, they already enjoy those benefits and protections inherently. Court rules in favor of the state."

Then I would go and fuck my hot law clerk.

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and the great thing...your hot law clerk could be a male or female!

 

[jwlcosu]

This is the thing - in the unlikely event that this would happen, as we have all seen, judges - both conservative leaning judges and liberal leaning judges - have a pretty good handle on making shit up out of whole cloth as they go along.

I think it would be just this simple, this is how I would rule:

"The court rules that the plaintiffs are not being denied the benefits and protections that marriage provides, because as immediate family members, they already enjoy those benefits and protections inherently. Court rules in favor of the state."

Then I would go and fuck my hot law clerk.

And I doubt any appellate court would hear a review.

Speaking of all things possible, how do you rule on this hot mess?

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/caitlyn_jenner.jpg?w=640&h=961

 

[tinselwolverine]

Speaking of all things possible, how do you rule on this hot mess?

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/caitlyn_jenner.jpg?w=640&h=961

I don't care.

EDIT: I suppose there are a few good jokes that can be/have been made about it. Other than that, I don't care.

 

[tinselwolverine]

and the great thing...your hot law clerk could be a male or female!

I had meant to indicate female but overlooked it; but instead of editing it in, I just left it the way it is.

If someone wants to think that I might get with a hot male law clerk, it doesn't bother me if someone thinks that.

 

[Thumb]

I'm just waiting for a straight answer. A yes or no.

The answer is no, their are laws in every state against incest up to and in some cases including first cousins.

And stop being stupid and making the incest mother/daughter marriage thing an issue about this decision, because prior to this, when the laws that were struck down said marriage was a 1 man and 1 woman, a father and daughter could not marry either.

So stop being dumb and using the extreme slippery slope argument, because it really has nothing to do with this except for bigoted people to have something to bitch about.

 

[jwlcosu]

I don't care.

EDIT: I suppose there are a few good jokes that can be/have been made about it. Other than that, I don't care.

I don't care either. But I'd say there's about a 30% chance he kills himself before all is said and done. So damaged.

 

[jwlcosu]

I think it would be just this simple, this is how I would rule:

"The court rules that the plaintiffs are not being denied the benefits and protections that marriage provides, because as immediate family members, they already enjoy those benefits and protections inherently. Court rules in favor of the state."

If you know how you'd rule before hearing the arguments, you'd have to recuse yourself. Oh wait, no you wouldn't. Never mind.

 

[Thumb]

If you know how you'd rule before hearing the arguments, you'd have to recuse yourself. Oh wait, no you wouldn't. Never mind.

Like Scalia hadn't made up his mind long before this was a SCOTUS case? Roberts? Gimme a break.

 

[turok]

I find male bisexual and homosexuality to be disgustingly revolting and gross. But then I have never drilled for Santorum with a female, so I dunno or understand what the physical pleasure, enjoyment and attraction is.

I don't feel the same way about female bisexual and lesbian sex, likely b/c I always picture two or more beautiful, lithe, young, stacked, and supple females going @ it, from viewing it online, or just thinking about it, which is of course, most often NOT the case IRL. Most are plain, husky, skinny and average looking, if not outright homely. ugly, and/or overweight/obese as all hell.

So I cannot be a hypocrite and condemn or disagree with couples of the same sex being legally wed under law.

 

[jwlcosu]

I find male bisexual and homosexuality to be disgustingly revolting and gross. But then I have never drilled for Santorum with a female, so I dunno or understand what the physical pleasure, enjoyment and attraction is.

I don't feel the same way about female bisexual and lesbian sex, likely b/c I always picture two or more beautiful, lithe, young, stacked, and supple females going @ it, from viewing it online, or just thinking about it, which is of course, most often NOT the case IRL. Most are plain, husky, skinny and average looking, if not outright homely. ugly, and/or overweight/obese as all hell.

So I cannot be a hypocrite and condemn or disagree with couples of the same sex being legally wed under law.

You sound like just another white guy.

 

[Monster]

I find male bisexual and homosexuality to be disgustingly revolting and gross. But then I have never drilled for Santorum with a female, so I dunno or understand what the physical pleasure, enjoyment and attraction is.

I don't feel the same way about female bisexual and lesbian sex, likely b/c I always picture two or more beautiful, lithe, young, stacked, and supple females going @ it, from viewing it online, or just thinking about it, which is of course, most often NOT the case IRL. Most are plain, husky, skinny and average looking, if not outright homely. ugly, and/or overweight/obese as all hell.

So I cannot be a hypocrite and condemn or disagree with couples of the same sex being legally wed under law.

That wouldn't make you a hypocrite. It makes you straight. It's gross to me, too, but that's because I'm a straight male. Supporting their right to have sex and marry each other is common sense when you take religion out of the picture. I don't really care what they do as long as they aren't asking me to watch it. To me, it's like watching old people fuck. It's disgusting but at the same time, I'm not going to tell them to stop doing it or not be married.

 

[Monster]

The answer is no, their are laws in every state against incest up to and in some cases including first cousins.

And stop being stupid and making the incest mother/daughter marriage thing an issue about this decision, because prior to this, when the laws that were struck down said marriage was a 1 man and 1 woman, a father and daughter could not marry either.

So stop being dumb and using the extreme slippery slope argument, because it really has nothing to do with this except for bigoted people to have something to bitch about.

My main problem with incest (whether gay or straight and aside from health issues) is grooming. Imagine a sicko father grooming his newborn baby daughter to love him like a husband. He'd have years to brainwash his children into believing they were "in love". This is much like the Warren Jeffs Mormon group.

Incest is wrong. Cousins...still wrong and the genes are too close, but further out than that...ehhhhh, I guess?

 

[turok]

You sound like just another white guy.

How exactly does my race enter into it?

Did some Bubbas or Bambinos back you into a corner of the shower-room in your local county lockup or something?

I haven't taken a survey of how Blacks, Latinos and Orientals feel about homosexuality and teh ghey marriage, but I would guess that Orientals would be the least opposed with Blacks next, and Latinos "bringing up the rear">

 

[tomdalton22]

The answer is no, their are laws in every state against incest up to and in some cases including first cousins.

And stop being stupid and making the incest mother/daughter marriage thing an issue about this decision, because prior to this, when the laws that were struck down said marriage was a 1 man and 1 woman, a father and daughter could not marry either.

So stop being dumb and using the extreme slippery slope argument, because it really has nothing to do with this except for bigoted people to have something to bitch about.

There are 12 states where sodomy is illegal. There are 4 states where oral sex is illegal. There used to be laws where it was illegal for blacks to marry whites. My only point was that if any group, small or large is discriminated against it is still discrimination.

 

[Thumb]

There are 12 states where sodomy is illegal. There are 4 states where oral sex is illegal. There used to be laws where it was illegal for blacks to marry whites. My only point was that if any group, small or large is discriminated against it is still discrimination.

So axe murderers are discriminated against because murder is against the law?

Tom, you aren't even making sense to yourself I bet.

Bottom line: It's not and never has been against the law to be gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender. It is however illegal to engage in incest. You keep bringing up things that are in no way related to each other. You're building a 10 story tall strawman.

 

[tomdalton22]

So axe murderers are discriminated against because murder is against the law?

Tom, you aren't even making sense to yourself I bet.

Bottom line: It's not and never has been against the law to be gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender. It is however illegal to engage in incest. You keep bringing up things that are in no way related to each other. You're building a 10 story tall strawman.

Ax murderers have all of the same rights as every other group of people when it comes to being married (tax benefits, etc.)

So no, they are not being discriminated against.

As far as against the law to be gay...i guess it is against the law in those states where sodomy is against the law...if they are having that kind of sex.

 

[turok]

Ax murderers have all of the same rights as every other group of people when it comes to being married (tax benefits, etc.)

So no, they are not being discriminated against.

As far as against the law to be gay...i guess it is against the law in those states where sodomy is against the law...if they are having that kind of sex.

There are likely hundreds of antiquated and foolish state laws that are very rarely or never enforced. No member of law enforcement is gonna hide in someone's bedroom closet to keep watch for the off-chance that a couple might have butt-sex.

 

[tomdalton22]

There are likely hundreds of antiquated and foolish state laws that are very rarely or never enforced. No member of law enforcement is gonna hide in someone's bedroom closet to keep watch for the off-chance that a couple might have butt-sex.

true.

 

[Spartan23MSU]

Im 80% conservative and I could care less if there is marraige between gays. If it doesnt affect me financially I have no reason to care. I dont see why it would bother anyone.