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Roeker vs. Mayor DeBlasio

tinselwolverine

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I would imagine everybody has heard about this; I find the whole thing generally pretty amusing more than anything.

Although thankfully it seems nothing bad happened to any NYC school kid on account of the weather; that would not have been amusing at all had anything like that happened.

I don't know if this more of a media/TV thread or a political thread; so I was just about to put it in news and announcements.
 
they reported it like six times while I had the local news on in the background this morning.

I feel that no one who is on Good Morning America or any similar show has any business criticising anyone for anything. They have willingly chosen a high salary to be brainless, smiling, morning-greeting-automatons, and their opinions are accordingly invalid.

yesterday I was watching the news and they featured another morning TV show host dancing with one of our Olympians (!). I said to myself "This is not news." THEN they showed a video that host's son uploaded to Youtube of him dancing...

I shook my head saying "This IS REALLY NOT NEWS." and just turned it off. I hate the media so much.

they should be FOCUSING ON BENGHAZI

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As someone who actually lives in brooklyn and had to drive my wife to her school that morning, the mayor and his team deserve every bit of criticism for not closing, or at least delaying, school. That fucker put people in danger for zero reason. There was a state of emergency for crying out loud. "stay off the roads due to toad conditions, but be sure to take your kid to school". Brilliant. Numerous accidents, which if I haf been involved, I would have sued the city for the damages.

And less than 50% of students actually attended.

Pure jackass stunt.
 
And to too it off the city has snow days built into the calendar year, but refuse to use them due to having to pay certain unions overtime to work if they cancel, such as police and fire/rescue and others. That started during Koch reign. They don't cancel school unless there is over a foot blizzard and roads are completely clogged to where even plows are stuck. It is unconscionable how they jeopardize peoples lives. .
 
As someone who actually lives in brooklyn and had to drive my wife to her school that morning, the mayor and his team deserve every bit of criticism for not closing, or at least delaying, school. That fucker put people in danger for zero reason. There was a state of emergency for crying out loud. "stay off the roads due to toad conditions, but be sure to take your kid to school". Brilliant. Numerous accidents, which if I haf been involved, I would have sued the city for the damages.

And less than 50% of students actually attended.

Pure jackass stunt.

your wife is still in grade school?
 
your wife is still in grade school?

Ha...good one.

She teaches 2nd grade currently, has also taught 5th graders. She is also the union rep, not by choice but basically elected against her preference by the other teachers because she had been a lawyer. Aced the bar on her first try after her ex convinced her to take it and join his family firm. She still renews her license but prefers the more adult brains of the retarded 2nd graders.
 
And yes, they actually mentally challenged with paras (people who help the mentally challenged students)
 
Sorry, typing on phone is not always the best. The class my wife teaches has mentally challenged students who require Paras (Para-Professional Teachers). These individuals are assigned individual students and sit with them throughout the day and assist as needed with everything from schoolwork comprehension to - literally - wiping their butts. She has multiple students in her class like this, along with others who do not require such assistance. It is all about helping these students feel included in the mainstream education instead of attending a designated school specifically for helping them. Their parents do not want their child to be labelled, to the point they often "forget" to provide their child with medication that helps them perform better because they do not want others to find out their kid is on meds. Teachers are not allowed to inquire about meds, instead having to make suggestive remarks like "in the afternoon s/he suddenly becomes hyperactive / unfocused / aggressive" (yes, to the point of injuring themselves or others and not being held accountable in any way because we should just allow crazed lunatics to be in public school without consequences for their actions).

Nonetheless, these students often show higher intelligence than the lawyers my wife used to work around, so she prefers their ability to actually provide some semblance of being smart relative to lawyers who only win by paying off judges. NYC judicial system makes Mexico's seem like straight shooters, especially after the arrest of King Jefe.
 
I'm surprised to hear that meds are still any kind of a stigma at all.

Isn't pretty much every school kid on meds these days, special needs or not?
 
I'm surprised to hear that meds are still any kind of a stigma at all.

Isn't pretty much every school kid on meds these days, special needs or not?

Amongst certain demographics it is an absolute travesty to admit your child is on meds.

Tinsel, you might know of some Orthodox Jews who are very quiet about any issue their child(ren) has due to trying to keep open the best marriage relationship possible. I know of several personally who have done everything possible to keep quiet a child's disability. Often it isn't even to try getting the child with the disability eventually married off when older, but even when a "normal" child has a disabled sibling the family will keep that news very quiet until after the marriage for fear the wedding won't happen due to fears that a genetic abnormality might be hidden in the genes of the normal child.

Russians are also very unwilling to put their kids on meds, pretending nothing is wrong.

I have neighbors across from me who have a daughter and she isn't on any meds despite being on "the spectrum" because her Irish father is unwilling to admit there is a problem.

Sometimes it is a cultural thing, sometimes it is the unwillingness of a parent to recognize something is wrong.

Granted society is over-medicated when it comes to things like ADD, ADHD, OCD, and other things IMO, but when a child is acting out to the point of causing harm to themselves or others, or when a child who is challenged but could actually function as normal with meds, those are times when meds are warranted. Unfortunately schools are unable to require any type of evaluation or even inquire if a child is on meds, such as several kids in my wife's class who are well behaved in the morning then after lunch it is like a switch is thrown and they are wild. The parents blame the food, the lunch environment, anything possible so as to not say "yeah, i forgot to pack his meds in his lunch or he forgot to take them". If the teachers or ANYONE in the school was made aware...the nurse, principal, counselors, maybe the Para...ANYONE!!!...then they could make sure the meds are with the kid when they arrive and that they take them at lunch. Instead after lunch it is near impossible to teach because no one is able to control the crazed kids who are off their meds.

Parents have rights, students have rights (except apparently when assaulted by a kid who is off their meds, then they somehow don't have any rights anymore because we have to over-protect the unmedicated for some reason i am yet to grasp), but unfortunately it has gone too far to the point that the only people left to finger for why kids are underperforming are the teachers. Yes, there are bad teachers. Yes there are teachers who are known to use excessive measures in attempting to control classes as well. The problem there is that it is no longer a threat to call the parent so that proper discipline can be provided because the parents don't know how to control their own kids nor are they allowed to use any type of discipline beyond grounding otherwise they get arrested for physical abuse of their child. I'm waiting for the soon approaching lawsuit against parents by their child for mental abuse due to grounding.

No discipline + no meds + standardized testing = if you have the chance to get your kid out of public school, DO IT!!! Charter, private, home schooled...any alternative to public school education is better for children these days, at least in the cities.
 
back on topic to some degree, it appears there are more and more schools who are technologically advanced enough to tell kids they will no longer have off when the snow or other extreme weather traditionally would have cancelled school as the schools are now set up with online courses and kids must log in and take the online courses when it is not possible to physically make it to school.

while that would work much better than risking childrens' lives in bad weather, i worry some brilliant administrators will decide to demand the same when a child misses due to medical reasons regardless of severity of situation causing the child to miss even the online assignment. those brainless tools are unlikely to comprehend situations where a child just cannot do an assignment for some reason.

it just seems like common sense is no longer allowed to be part of the equation for public schools.
 
No discipline + no meds + standardized testing = if you have the chance to get your kid out of public school, DO IT!!! Charter, private, home schooled...any alternative to public school education is better for children these days, at least in the cities.

In the cities.

We were just talking about this. Charter schools aren't actually better in rich neighborhoods. You're better off sticking to public schools in wealthy places.
 
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yes, and actually in the cities the charter schools are barely better than public so if you can afford private that is definitely the better option. best option though is to move to a nice suburban area with good public schools if you can afford to move.

there apparently are more and more responsible parents in bad neighborhoods who are opting for home schooling in order to keep their kids out of the dysfunctional public schools.
 
In the cities.

We were just talking about this. Charter schools aren't actually better in rich neighborhoods. You're better off sticking to public schools in wealthy places.

and a major reason they're better in poor neighborhoods is because they can expel the problem kids, dumping them on the public schools who HAVE to take them in.
 
Amongst certain demographics it is an absolute travesty to admit your child is on meds.

Tinsel, you might know of some Orthodox Jews...

There are a lot of Orthodox Jews who live in my neighborhood in Encino, but I don't know any of them.

When it comes to Jews of a more religious nature, most of my Jewish friends are pretty anti-Semitic.
 
There are a lot of Orthodox Jews who live in my neighborhood in Encino, but I don't know any of them.

When it comes to Jews of a more religious nature, most of my Jewish friends are pretty anti-Semitic.

Wow, that's very different from what I have witnessed here in NY, but there are so many fractions amongst Jewish society these days that I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. We definitely have a wide range of extreme viewpoints here.
 
and a major reason they're better in poor neighborhoods is because they can expel the problem kids, dumping them on the public schools who HAVE to take them in.

Which is why I believe that the public school system should develop a multi-tier setup which allows good kids the best possible education. Bad kids would go to a more strict environment, like a military school. Some kids will shape up and the ones who don't are at least kept away from kids just trying to get the best education available.

As for kids on the spectrum, it has been proven they can excel very well given the right environment. Being tossed into the mix is definitely NOT that environment. We think we are helping them when really they are getting lower and lower self esteem as they fail more often than not even with extra help and time to take tests because the system is set up to move them up and outike cattle. In the right settings they can achieve far higher, including college and post grad degrees. Right bow these kids are destined for below livable wage jobs because of how the system is setting them up to fail.
 
Wow, that's very different from what I have witnessed here in NY, but there are so many fractions amongst Jewish society these days that I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. We definitely have a wide range of extreme viewpoints here.

I was being primarily facecious, but there's an element of truth to it.

Aside from reading about the plagues on Passover, lighting a Menorah during Hannukkah and stepping on and crushing a light bulb at a wedding and then everyone yells Mazeltov, the Jewish people I hang out with really don't practice religion. Okay, my wife put a mizzuzza on our front door and on the door of our home office. That's pretty much it.

The Jewish people I know were born and raised in sunny Los Angeles and were raised fairly affluently with parents directly or indirectly related to show biz, and really don't identify all that much with being Jewish.

A lot of them tend to dislike and distrust Jewish immigrants in general, and Israelis in particular, and really don't interact a lot with Jewish people who regularly go to temple, let alone are conservative or Hasitic; in fact I hear secular Jewish people tell Hasitic jokes using the same stereotypes about Hasitics that goy people use telling Jewish jokes about garden variety Jewish people it's kind of amusing actually.
 
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