Romney finances

[redandguilty]

http://gawker.com/5936394/

 

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[TheVictors]

The off-shore stuff and "tax loopholes" are SOP for the uber-wealthy. Investments in Casinos (and the LVS owner being such a large GOP contributor), tobacco, Europe, China, media (because we all know the "media" is not to be trusted) all reek of hypocrisy.

But it's hardly a secret the dude is loaded. How he got loaded may be questionable but that's the case for most incredibly wealthy people. Bain is a Gordon Gecko in real life...

As has been stated before, the differences between the candidates is largely artificial -- no taxes or explanation of wealth vs. no birth certificate ....nobody is going to change his/her vote based on either "issue."

 

[tinselwolverine]

So anyway, the link seems to corroborate what is generally known, and what he's acknowledged - he has lots of holdings in the Caymans and Europe, and generally his income has consisted of capital gains, and he's usually paid about 13% in taxes.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Who gives a fuck, he's rich. What POTS wasn't rich? Why would anyone really care and I agree what Victors said "doesn't mean shit to voters" -- I ad lib there.

 

[Slick]

Mitt say's he is going to bank mostly in the USA if elected......so there's a feather in his cap.

 

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Who gives a fuck, he's rich. What POTS wasn't rich? Why would anyone really care and I agree what Victors said "doesn't mean shit to voters" -- I ad lib there.

It's not about him being rich, it's about how he got that way.

And who gives a fuck? Maybe every poor S.O.B. that ever worked a hard 40 hours only to have roughly 24% of his earnings taken away in the name of taxes, while a rich guy like Romney who makes money mostly sitting on his ass uses dodges and loopholes (some possibly not even legal) and pays 13%.

And Victors didn't say it does not mean shit to the voters, he said it won't make one side change it's vote from one to the other.

Which is to say, if it was Obama with the finance questions you would be plenty pissed, if Romney had bitch certificate issues, you would care less, you're just not going to change your mind over it. Which is an explanation of the sad state of politics, it's not about the candidate; it about the party.

 

[TheVictors]

I work in finance and it's true ...the middle class gets screwed by comparison. Whether by having more options, more sophisticated 'advice' or having the ability 'generate losses,' the effective tax rate for the most wealthy is FAR lower than someone making $50,000.

 

[TheVictors]

It's not about him being rich, it's about how he got that way.

And who gives a fuck?

Which is to say, if it was Obama with the finance questions you would be plenty pissed, if Romney had bitch certificate issues, you would care less, you're just not going to change your mind over it. Which is an explanation of the sad state of politics, it's not about the candidate; it about the party.

exactly my point ^^

It's all a bunch of bullshit ...like both candidates having to call Lance Armstrong an "American Hero" yesterday after his doping allegations and ban were finalized or both candidates decrying the Aurora Movie Theater mass murderer.

It should go without saying any person running for President would be horrified at such violence and who gives a fuck about Lance Armstrong when we're fighting multiple wars, battling recession and have had the hottest summer ever in the history of the world.

 

[redandguilty]

It would be nice if the extra attention on tax loopholes could drive an effort to actually close some of them, but that's just wishful thinking.

 

[TheVictors]

The entire US tax code is convoluted crap

And I don't mean "who cares about Lance Armstrong" in his role as ambassador for cancer survivors or even as the best cheater in a dirty sport ...it's more that had Obama not said anything Fox would go off about how unAmerican he is and Romney not making a remark gets MSNBC going on about how heartless he is towards cancer patients/survivors.

With a father who survived his battle with Leukemia and having donated $1000s myself to City of Hope and Armstrong's foundation, to me, cancer transcends political ideology and is irrelevant to this election and the two dipshits running.

 

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It would be nice if the extra attention on tax loopholes could drive an effort to actually close some of them, but that's just wishful thinking.

The people who use those loopholes are the ones who work the puppet strings of the only people who could close them, the lawmakers.

 

[Slick]

The entire US tax code is convoluted crap

And I don't mean "who cares about Lance Armstrong" in his role as ambassador for cancer survivors or even as the best cheater in a dirty sport ...it's more that had Obama not said anything Fox would go off about how unAmerican he is and Romney not making a remark gets MSNBC going on about how heartless he is towards cancer patients/survivors.

With a father who survived his battle with Leukemia and having donated $1000s myself to City of Hope and Armstrong's foundation, to me, cancer transcends political ideology and is irrelevant to this election and the two dipshits running.

Obama called Neil Armstong an American Hero

 

[TheVictors]

Armstrong, right.

Lessens the absurdity to a point but same premise ..Romney and Obama both have to say the same thing about the topic or face the media spin of not doing it, and besides, the Moon landing never really happened!

Lance is here in Cyclist Capitol CO now and there has been wall to wall talk of him all week. Neil got folded into the headlines and appears right below the Bike Race with headlines reading:

Romney on Armstrong: an American Hero
Obama calls Armstrong an American Hero

my bad

 

[Slick]

Armstrong, right.

so he should have not given a fuck about Neil Armstrong , becuase of the 2 wars , the summer heat and aslowly recovering economy ?

or does he have your blessing on the quote ?



In a statement, President Obama called Armstrong "among the greatest of American heroes - not just of his time, but of all time."

 

[TheVictors]

Lessens the absurdity to a point but same premise ..Romney and Obama both have to say the same thing about the topic or face the media spin of not doing it....

obviously you've missed the point from the beginning

Feel free to smite me every hour on the hour

 

[Slick]

Lessens the absurdity to a point but same premise ..Romney and Obama both have to say the same thing about the topic or face the media spin of not doing it....

obviously you've missed the point from the beginning

Feel free to smite me every hour on the hour

missed the point :lmao: you went on a tangent about him calling Lance Armstrong an American Hero in which you were 100% wrong on who he was talking about.

big difference Lance and Neil.....Obama and Romney , yes said the same thing but there isn't much else to say...the guy was what they quoted him to be.

come back when he calls Barry Bonds an American Hero....

 

[byco42]

Actually, neither Romney or Obama thought of the phrase "American Hero." That was fed to them by their "people."

 

[Slick]

Actually, neither Romney or Obama thought of the phrase "American Hero." That was fed to them by their "people."

ofcourse it was...both are high school drop out morons. :tup:

 

[redandguilty]

The people who use those loopholes are the ones who work the puppet strings of the only people who could close them, the lawmakers.

Bingo. I'm not anti-rich people doing capitalist things to get rich. I'm anti-powerful people re-writing the rules to their own benefit. That's not capitalism.