Rush?s Health in Limbo - The End Has Come

[Gulo Blue]

I've seen all but Ragtime and read most (except The Natural, One Flew and LA Confidential - 4 out of 7, that's barely 'most'). They're all great movies even if they aren't good representations of the books.

They are the exception in my experience - at least I can't think of any others, but I haven't read the Matrix if those books exist. If they are books, it's not possible that they're not better than those movies.

Y'all are movie snobs. JP was a different movie than it was as a book, but it was still good. The 1st Matrix was also good. We live in an age where people go nuts for shows that just do something interesting and then never really resolve how/why and they get away with it (Lost, Leftovers, GoT). The Matrix had a mysterious guy on the phone appear omniscient and bad guys seemingly magically glue a guy's mouth shut and then they made it all make sense in the context of the show.

 

[sggatecl]

Y'all are movie snobs. JP was a different movie than it was as a book, but it was still good. The 1st Matrix was also good. We live in an age where people go nuts for shows that just do something interesting and then never really resolve how/why and they get away with it (Lost, Leftovers, GoT). The Matrix had a mysterious guy on the phone appear omniscient and bad guys seemingly magically glue a guy's mouth shut and then they made it all make sense in the context of the show.

I'm actually the opposite of a movie snob. I would be the worst movie critic because I end up enjoying most movies. If I had not read Lost World, I'm sure I'd have had few issues with the movie.

 

[tinselwolverine]

If you have seen these movies ...

The Natural
The Shining
The Godfather
One Flew Over the Cookoo’s Next
Ragtime
The Great Gadsby

... there is no way you can claim you have read the novels of the same name. The Godfather and LA Confidential omit what I think are crucial and interesting storylines (GFII does address some of them, as it fabricates another). The others simply destroy the novel’s premise.

I read “The Natural,” “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest,” and “The Great Gatsby.”
The Natural seemed very different from the movie.

I read Cuckoo’s Nest as I was preparing to perform McMurphy on stage in a summer run at The Performance Network in Ann Arbor, 1984.

I that summer was pretty magical for me. Four nights a week I played McMurphy in front of full (small) houses, and the Tigers started out 35-5.

After Cuckoo’s Nest, I was asked to play the Montgomery Clift character in “Suddenly Last Summer,” and then Harry Roat in “Wait Until Dark” at the Black Sheep Repertory Theatre; I think it was out in Manchester. Then I performed in song and dance octet at Wiards Orchards - and I even got paid.

Game 5 of the WS, the national anthem was performed at Tiger Stadium by the M Glee Club. One of the four guys in the octet was a Club alum like me, and his brother was the president of the club that year. The brother had asked me to loan my GC jacket to the club so a new guy whose jacket was on order could perform - everybody performed in the jackets. The anthem occurred between sets, so we all gathered around a little black and white TV and watched.

Later that day, I watched Larry Herndon I think) make the final putout in the 1984 WS.

It was a pretty good summer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sQJR5C8ZOoQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uThjULHBrjo

 

[Michchamp]

I'm actually the opposite of a movie snob. I would be the worst movie critic because I end up enjoying most movies. If I had not read Lost World, I'm sure I'd have had few issues with the movie.

you probably thought "Love, Actually" was great.

 

[tinselwolverine]

you probably thought "Love, Actually" was great.

Not great, but it was okay.

Julia Roberts was good in it - she?s good in everything.

 

[sggatecl]

you probably thought "Love, Actually" was great.

That chick Hugh Grant hooked up with was sleeper hot.

In fact that movie had tons of eye candy. I can think of far worse chick flick/rom coms.

 

[tinselwolverine]

That chick Hugh Grant hooked up with was sleeper hot.

In fact that movie had tons of eye candy. I can think of far worse chick flick/rom coms.

I know, right?

 

[Gulo Blue]

I'm actually the opposite of a movie snob. I would be the worst movie critic because I end up enjoying most movies. If I had not read Lost World, I'm sure I'd have had few issues with the movie.

Yeah...and if I'm being fair, I'm probably a bit of a movie snob sometimes anyway. Criticism of JP and the Matrix just gets my hackles up.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Yeah...and if I'm being fair, I'm probably a bit of a movie snob sometimes anyway. Criticism of JP and the Matrix just gets my hackles up.

One of these things is not like the others...

It?s the Matrix.

Going back to the biopic ?Cobb,? and then onto the list byco introduced, we?ve been talking about films based on novels (except ?Cobb?) and how the films compared to the works upon which they?re based.

?The Matrix? is an original screenplay (the screenwriters did publish a graphic novel based on the movie after the film was released). Love it or hate it, it stands alone as a a work of cinematic art and exclusively a work of cinematic art.

 

[Michchamp]

That chick Hugh Grant hooked up with was sleeper hot.

In fact that movie had tons of eye candy. I can think of far worse chick flick/rom coms.

 

[tinselwolverine]

That chick Hugh Grant hooked up with was sleeper hot.

In fact that movie had tons of eye candy. I can think of far worse chick flick/rom coms.

That Hugh Grant plays a lot of English guys who live in England in a lot of movies.

 

[Michchamp]

Hahahah, what a stupid asshole ROFLMAO ......Gov. DeSantis to order flags lowered after Rush Limbaugh’s death

 

[sggatecl]

?The Matrix? is an original screenplay (the screenwriters did publish a graphic novel based on the movie after the film was released). Love it or hate it, it stands alone as a a work of cinematic art and exclusively a work of cinematic art.

I remember there were a couple big lawsuits suggesting they ripped off another writer's work but both courts shut them down I believe. Which might be an extremely common thing in Hollywood but I don't usually hear much about them so I thought maybe it had merit.

It did not.

 

[Spartanmack]

Y'all are movie snobs. JP was a different movie than it was as a book, but it was still good. The 1st Matrix was also good. We live in an age where people go nuts for shows that just do something interesting and then never really resolve how/why and they get away with it (Lost, Leftovers, GoT). The Matrix had a mysterious guy on the phone appear omniscient and bad guys seemingly magically glue a guy's mouth shut and then they made it all make sense in the context of the show.

I'm not a movie snob - I can watch Bad Grandpa, Super Bad or Grandma's Boy almost any time, just like Apocalypse Now, Godfather, Diner, etc. I don't think JP was a bad movie. It was a good movie, it's just not a great movie like those on the earlier list. It doesn't come close to telling the same story the book told. It's the only one I've seen in the franchise though so I'm not opining on any other than the original.

As for the Matrix - definitely not a great movie. My position on it here has been that's it's overrated - movies can be good and still be overrated. I just don't get why people think it's great - especially when most of the people telling me it's great were the kind of people who were telling me how awesome The Crow was. The first time I watched it I thought it was an over the top special effects sci-fi movie with a bunch of cheesie gratuitous violence and a poorly developed cheesie love story. After hearing people rave about it I gave it another try and my opinion didn't really change much. I didn't hate it either time although, after watching a decent chunk of the sequel, I wondered if I should rewatch the first again to make sure it wasn't worse than I remembered it.

 

[Spartanmack]

you probably thought "Love, Actually" was great.

it was no "The Notebook", that's for sure.

Edit: I haven't actually seen "Love, Actually" - I thought that was the title of the movie with Steve Carrell and Julianne Moore but that was actually called "Crazy, Stupid, Love" which I have seen.

 

[byco42]

I have a buddy who has this rule about a movie: If someone isn’t killed in the first five minutes, he walks out. (Or, these days, shuts it off).

 

[Spartanmack]

One of these things is not like the others...

It’s the Matrix.

Going back to the biopic “Cobb,” and then onto the list byco introduced, we’ve been talking about films based on novels (except “Cobb”) and how the films compared to the works upon which they’re based.

“The Matrix” is an original screenplay (the screenwriters did publish a graphic novel based on the movie after the film was released). Love it or hate it, it stands alone as a a work of cinematic art and exclusively a work of cinematic art.

I don't really care what other people think of movies I like or don't like. This term though, gets my hackles up. Maybe it's because I never got into comic books, but it just sounds like a term made up by adults who want to legitimize the hobby they never grew out of - I'd probably be a lot less judgmental if they just kept calling them what they are - comic books.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I don't really care what other people think of movies I like or don't like. This term though, gets my hackles up. Maybe it's because I never got into comic books, but it just sounds like a term made up by adults who want to legitimize the hobby they never grew out of - I'd probably be a lot less judgmental if they just kept calling them what they are - comic books.

It pretty much is.

But it?s in the lexicon.

It doesn?t get my hackles up.

 

[Spartanmack]

I have a buddy who has this rule about a movie: If someone isn?t killed in the first five minutes, he walks out. (Or, these days, shuts it off).

So he hasn't seen all of Braveheart? I remember renting that and "Seven" with my brother, being about 40 minutes in and saying if someone doesn't die soon I'm putting in Seven.

 

[Michchamp]

I also always hated comic books, but I think a graphic novel is (or can be) different.

I have one - this one - because I liked the art, and I followed the artist on twitter before I ever knew he made books. The story is creepy as hell too.

I can see how graphic novels have become a thing to be made into movies. lazy hollywood studios don't need to develop much to get it from the page to the screen... pictures are already there.