Stopping the Syrian refugees is ISIS strategy.

[Gulo Blue]

With all this talk about blocking refugees, how is nobody talking about the likelihood that that is exactly what ISIS wants us to do? Last I read, all the terrorists in France were EU citizens and the Syrian passport was fake. Why would they have a fake Syrian passport? To frame Syrian refugees. Desperate populations are good places for them to recruit.

 

[Michchamp]

With all this talk about blocking refugees, how is nobody talking about the likelihood that that is exactly what ISIS wants us to do? Last I read, all the terrorists in France were EU citizens and the Syrian passport was fake. Why would they have a fake Syrian passport? To frame Syrian refugees. Desperate populations are good places for them to recruit.

I was going to post about that.

yes, the Republitard gubernatorial racist-pandering is not going to keep anyone safer. The really awful thing about it is there are questions as to whether these governors can even claim to follow through on their threats under US law. It is LITERALLY just racist pandering, without any actual policy implications. Snyder continues to look like a doofus in thrall to the most extreme elements of his party in Michigan (and Rauner in Illinois, and our dumbass governor here in Texas), among others.

those people are FLEEING radical Islam, not proselytizing it. Refusing to shelter them instead forces them to remain in a violent, sectarian land, where they may be forced to radicalize out of necessity. I don't get the sense ISIS lets anyone stay on the fence.

And I was reading some of the reports out of France too; I agree with you. From what I read the perpetrators of the attacks last Friday were all French citizens, not Syrian refugees.

 

[mhughes0021]

I guess I don't understand how this country has such a problem with Mexicans coming over that work our fields and put food on all of our tables....but were fine with bringing over people from areas filled with ISIS camps.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I guess I don't understand how this country has such a problem with Mexicans coming over that work our fields and put food on all of our tables....but were fine with bringing over people from areas filled with ISIS camps.

Isn't it the same political types that have a problem with both?

 

[TheVictors]

I don't care if they're from Syria or Syracuse, Colorado is at fucking NO VACANCY!!

 

[Monster]

I posted this on my Facebook...


Okay guys, I have something very important that I want to talk about. ISIS, and more specifically, Syrian refugees. I keep hearing people on TV and in news articles declaring that we shouldn't let any refugees into the country. Or at the very least, put those plans on hold. That's wrong and I'm going to tell you why.

ISIS wins when we lose our humanity. Turning away thousands of refugees - victims of ISIS, because we are scared that a few terrorists will sneak into the country? Are we really that cowardly? We would thumb our noses at the people who need our help the most? What is wrong with this country? Gun toting, flag waving, bible thumping Conservatives who have seemingly lost their balls, are scared? What's next? Internment camps for all muslims who live in the United States? Actually, one congressperson already suggested that! And Donald Trump said he would seriously consider closing Mosques! Are you kidding me? I guess the 1st amendment is only important when YOUR beliefs are protected.

I'm not saying that we should open all of our borders and just let everybody in, but we need to help these people escape the horrors that they left behind. How? Vet them. Fully. It's not particularly difficult to do and we can weed out people who may have ties to terror or can not prove who they are and where they come from.

We can not let ISIS win by scaring us into not doing what is right. We must remain vigilant while still keeping kindness in our hearts. Fear can not beat us. We can not allow that to happen.

 

[zyxt9]

I have no issue providing help to women, children, and elderly. But the able bodied men ages 18-30 should be signing up and helping reclaim their land. I'm not saying deny them entry, but if there are men coming in able to fight for their land, that is what they should be doing. Granted not every male is capable of fighting, and chances are good those with bloodlust are actually fighting for IS...but to just run away? I don't get that...but that's me. Whatever.

Still there is little/no reason to turn away the women, children, elderly, disabled, etc. I know some women and children get forced into wearing bombs, but those are not the people running away from that region. They are running away so that the bombs don't get strapped to them.

 

[Gulo Blue]

If we quit accepting refugees the terrorists win.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I have no issue providing help to women, children, and elderly. But the able bodied men ages 18-30 should be signing up and helping reclaim their land. I'm not saying deny them entry, but if there are men coming in able to fight for their land, that is what they should be doing. Granted not every male is capable of fighting, and chances are good those with bloodlust are actually fighting for IS...but to just run away? I don't get that...but that's me. Whatever.

Still there is little/no reason to turn away the women, children, elderly, disabled, etc. I know some women and children get forced into wearing bombs, but those are not the people running away from that region. They are running away so that the bombs don't get strapped to them.

What if they previously left their land due to the drought? Your farm quits producing, you move to a city, it's overwhelmed with other farming families, the situation deteriorates, people rebel and Assad uses progressively heavier tactics to fight back, the rebel factions are numerous with different motives and allegiancies, and finally ISIS moves in.

So you've already lost your home and it isn't good guys vs bad guys...so you're not going to try to get your family out of there, and go with them? Who exactly are you going to fight with, Assad, al Quaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas? I don't think you can pick one of the Kurdish groups unless you're Kurdish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

 

[Monster]

If we quit accepting refugees the terrorists win.

Not necessarily. But when we have such fear that we can't help, they've accomplished their goal.

As for zxyt's comment, it depends on the person. Putting a cowardly 30 year old into battle only gives Isis the advantage. Remember the Iraqi cowards that gave up their weapons that we gave them? Cowards in war are weak links. I do think, though, that vetted refugees that want to fight should be trained somewhere out of country.

 

[mhughes0021]

If we quit accepting refugees the terrorists win.

The terrorists win when people like John McCain want to give "rebels" a bunch of guns then the rebels turn into terrorists because now they have guns. Idiot republicans.

 

[mhughes0021]

I don't care if they're from Syria or Syracuse, Colorado is at fucking NO VACANCY!!

We really should give them a state of their own. Alaska?

 

[TheVictors]

Or canada

 

[Gulo Blue]

I don't care if they're from Syria or Syracuse, Colorado is at fucking NO VACANCY!!

I'm looking at a population density map here and I think you can handle a whole lot more.

 

[mhughes0021]

I'm looking at a population density map here and I think you can handle a whole lot more.

Once peytons head leaves the state there will be plenty of room.

 

[Michchamp]

I'm looking at a population density map here and I think you can handle a whole lot more.

people can't really live on a mountain. there are avalanches and what not.

plus if people build houses all over the mountains, Vic won't have a place to snowboard. :no:

 

[TheVictors]

I'm looking at a population density map here and I think you can handle a whole lot more.

We going to airdrop refugees into the vast mountainous BLM lands ?

And I'm going snowboarding this weekend, Syrians or not. Besides, how does Islam view weed?

 

[tigermud]

I'd go with option c

Support and back Russia and France in defeating Isis then the refugees can go home and rebuild.

Any of the candidates supporting a no fly zone over thier is just flat out wrong IMO and yes completely agree republicans helped create this monster that once again can't control.

We never learn do we

 

[Spartanmack]

I'm not saying that we should open all of our borders and just let everybody in, but we need to help these people escape the horrors that they left behind. How? Vet them. Fully. It's not particularly difficult to do and we can weed out people who may have ties to terror or can not prove who they are and where they come from.

We can not let ISIS win by scaring us into not doing what is right. We must remain vigilant while still keeping kindness in our hearts. Fear can not beat us. We can not allow that to happen.

Isn't that exactly what Snyder is saying? Delay taking them in until they can be fully vetted. Champ's cries of racism are once again complete shit. Did Snyder suddenly become racist? Back in September he was working with the federal government, offering to accept Syrian refugees in Michigan. At the time he asked his critics, "Isn't that part of being a good Michigander?" Did he just say that hoping there would be a major terrorist attack so he could slam the door on the refugees without people (except Champ) knowing he was really a racist? That's absurd.

The idea that there couldn't be dangerous people among the 100s of thousands of refugees is ridiculous. As is the idea that the terror attack shouldn't make people take a second look at the refugee crisis because they were committed by mostly or all French citizens. These people may have French citizenship but they're not multi-generation French families. They're the children of immigrants who refuse to assimilate to French society and despise the fact that France is not governed by Sharia law. They're disaffected youth - maybe they've been discriminated against but they're primarily disaffected due to their own culture and refusal to adapt to norms of western society.

Let me write your response for you Champ: "Racsism! derrr!"

 

[tigermud]

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