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Stupor Tuesday results

Michchamp

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Bernie did well enough to stay in the race, picking up CO, MN, OK and VT (as expected). excluding superdelegates, Billary leads him 544-349. Sanders did pick up some superdelegates, but not nearly as many as Billary did.

In the Clown Car race, it looks like Cruz is going to be a solid #2. I guess the question is whether the GOP brass can convince the Rubio-bot to shut itself down and cast its support behind Cruz. I guess it depends on how badly they want to keep Trump out. the endorsements he started collecting show some Republitards may be coming around to him. Despite a lot of claims to the contrary, Rubio is not moving the needle.
 
I don't quite understand the "super delegate" thing. So the people go to their districts and make the vote for their candidate. Why is that not the simple, defining determination of who the nominee is? The super delegate seems to be incredibly opaque and shrouded in mystery. Before the thing even started, Hillary had like 300 super delegates.
 
I don't quite understand the "super delegate" thing. So the people go to their districts and make the vote for their candidate. Why is that not the simple, defining determination of who the nominee is? The super delegate seems to be incredibly opaque and shrouded in mystery. Before the thing even started, Hillary had like 300 super delegates.

Just another system of control. Nothing to see here. Move along!
 
Just another system of control. Nothing to see here. Move along!

yep.

I think it stems from the '72 election, when young liberals and activists got McGovern nominated over the Party's favored candidates (Ed Muskie or Humbert Humphrey I think). It's the party's way of putting their finger on the scale to ensure the candidate special interests want wins.

There was a story about how one of the superdelegates in NH that stayed firm for Billary despite Sanders' win there was an anti-Affordable Care Act lobbyist with strong ties to the healthcare industry.

kinda makes the inevitable Republitard complaints about Billary being a dangerous leftist a little ridiculous. But I guess what else can they say?
 
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So in that count, do the super delegates also work towards the total? I see some sites show as 575-386, but others show that she has 1000+.
 
So in that count, do the super delegates also work towards the total? I see some sites show as 575-386, but others show that she has 1000+.

From what I can gather

576-386 represents the total number of pledged delegates that have been awarded in the primaries so far

Unpledged delegates (superdelegates) currently support Hillary over Bernie 457-22

Adding those up gives a total of 1033-408

It's really just an estimate right now since the superdelegates aren't locked in yet.

Superdelegates account for about 1/6 of the total delegates
 
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yep.

I think it stems from the '72 election, when young liberals and activists got McGovern nominated over the Party's favored candidates (Ed Muskie or Humbert Humphrey I think). It's the party's way of putting their finger on the scale to ensure the candidate special interests want wins.

There was a story about how one of the superdelegates in NH that stayed firm for Billary despite Sanders' win there was an anti-Affordable Care Act lobbyist with strong ties to the healthcare industry.

kinda makes the inevitable Republitard complaints about Billary being a dangerous leftist a little ridiculous. But I guess what else can they say?

That's actually exactly where it comes from. When people talk about 'establishment' candidates, it's not some tin foil hat joke.
 
Meanwhile, Super Tuesday comes and goes and Trump comes out not looking quite like the juggernaut he was looking like he might.

The majority of delegates selected so far are not going to Donald Trump.

Tom Delay was just on CNN very critical of Donald Trump, and while some are calling for Kasich to get out, Delay is saying that in order to stop Trump, Kasich actually has to stay in.

He said that if Kasich wins Ohio, it isn't mathematically possible for Trump to win a first ballot nomination.

I would expect someone like Tom Delay would know what he's talking about when it comes to this.

Carson has gotten out of the race.

I don't see any of Cruz, Rubio or Kasich being able to win a first ballot nomination.

So I guess at this point they're all hoping to stop a first ballot nomination of Trump and hope for the best in an open convention.
 
I think I'd rather punch myself in the balls than vote for Hillary Clinton. Why can't you Republifucks just get your shit together on social issues? It'd make things so much easier.
 
Stuck watching FoxNews here in Scottsdale while in a client's office for a while and can't believe how much the network is attacking Trump. I realize he's not their "conservative" but it's an active campaign to discredit him. One "progressive" pundit/talking face commented on how weak the GOP is ...such that someone like Clinton might actually get elected.
 
I think I'd rather punch myself in the balls than vote for Hillary Clinton. Why can't you Republifucks just get your shit together on social issues? It'd make things so much easier.


I'd rather give myself a root-canal with a shotgun than imagine a world where Trump has the nuclear launch codes.

So if it comes down to it, I'll happily punch myself in the balls if it's between him and the hag.
 
I'd rather give myself a root-canal with a shotgun than imagine a world where Trump has the nuclear launch codes.

So if it comes down to it, I'll happily punch myself in the balls if it's between him and the hag.

Yeah. It's looking like a cock punch sundae for sure.
 
ugh, she is awful, but yes, I'd still vote for her over Trump, Rubio, Cruz, or Kasich. but it would be important to keep pushing her left even after she's elected, because her natural instincts seem to be far to the right, collecting $100,000s to give speeches to Goldman Sachs, et al, deregulating, pushing "free" trade agreements, etc.
 
I think I'd rather punch myself in the balls than vote for Hillary Clinton. Why can't you Republifucks just get your shit together on social issues? It'd make things so much easier.

I was wondering the same about you liberal types, particularly those who lean a bit more center/right on fiscal issues...
 
I'm leaning towards Gary Johnson now that I know he's running. Probably a wasted vote, but I live in Michigan (which is probably going blue again) so it really doesn't matter who I vote for.

I generally think votes for president are irrelevant outside of swing states in the current electoral system. I believe local/state elections matter much more and should be the main reason why people get out to vote, but unfortunately they don't see as much coverage.
 
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