the Trans Pacific Partnership

[Monster]

This is what I mean. Fear mongering, stretching the truth, and making wild assumptions based on those lies. Here's the end of the article....

We are clearly seeing an undeniable buildup to a so far unknown event.

Many believe it may be to initiate martial law this summer but most likely the training and military movements are ramping up across the country because the powers that be know a collapse is imminent and are rushing to be ready to control the population when it finally happens.

http://www.infowars.com/massive-dir...undeniable-buildup-to-a-so-far-unknown-event/

Another bullshit article hidden with other legit articles. It's called baiting. They appear normal and trustworthy and then throw us BS like this article and jade helm. Sheep accept the BS and share it with the rest of the flock. This is what tears the country apart.

 

[Monster]

This is from 4 years ago. He had solid evidence and yet...no FEMA camps. Hmm...

https://youtu.be/K4aQJqzIe8o

 

[Michchamp]

they've been predicting martial law and government re-education camps every year since like 1995, except from 2001 - 2009 when government was pretty much ok for some reason.

 

[zyxt9]

If this thing passes then all who approved it should be impeached. R or D, the people should not tolerate this type of behavior from politicians. I get that big business would love it, and they undoubtedly are bribing/funding politicians to get it passed. It is things like this that make me wish it was still possibke to Draw and Quarter, for their secretive actions that will jeopardize the health and welfare of the individual American is akin to treason.

Yeah, I'm being extreme with my comments, but I'm serious about removing these jerks from office if they pass this, then electing people who will reverse it and remove the US from thus treaty. Everyone shoukd be pissed about this potential treaty.

 

[tigermud]

This is from 4 years ago. He had solid evidence and yet...no FEMA camps. Hmm...

https://youtu.be/K4aQJqzIe8o

Hey yea ya know not everything he has to say people have to agree with and he can be over the top at times but it's understandable to me why and like I said last year or so the seem to have grown up a little bit..I'd rather hear what he has to say then watching main stream guys toe the party lines and bicker over trivial shit

Meh to each his own. Who you like for 2016 Hillary, jeb or rand? Which one would be most likely to try and over turn tpp? Hint it wouldn't be a shillarybush

 

[Monster]

Hey yea ya know not everything he has to say people have to agree with and he can be over the top at times but it's understandable to me why and like I said last year or so the seem to have grown up a little bit..I'd rather hear what he has to say then watching main stream guys toe the party lines and bicker over trivial shit

Meh to each his own. Who you like for 2016 Hillary, jeb or rand? Which one would be most likely to try and over turn tpp? Hint it wouldn't be a shillarybush

Rand is too much of a sell out. Jeb is a Bush. If hillary wins the nom, I'll vote for her, but I will vote for bernie sanders in the primaries. Not that it matters. I'm tired of dishonest politics and he is the most honest one in the race

 

[Monster]

If this thing passes then all who approved it should be impeached. R or D, the people should not tolerate this type of behavior from politicians. I get that big business would love it, and they undoubtedly are bribing/funding politicians to get it passed. It is things like this that make me wish it was still possibke to Draw and Quarter, for their secretive actions that will jeopardize the health and welfare of the individual American is akin to treason.

Yeah, I'm being extreme with my comments, but I'm serious about removing these jerks from office if they pass this, then electing people who will reverse it and remove the US from thus treaty. Everyone shoukd be pissed about this potential treaty.

I completely agree.

 

[Monster]

Written by Bernie Sanders on the TPP.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7352166

 

[Michchamp]

there was an article detailing how much each of the Dems who "switched" to allow the fast track to proceed got from lobbyists. it wasn't even a big story! they were just like "oh yeah, here's how much it costs to bribe a US Senator."

I don't know if it's a good thing, but at least it's more costly to bribe a Democrat than a Republican. That's something, right?

 

[tigermud]

Rand is too much of a sell out. Jeb is a Bush. If hillary wins the nom, I'll vote for her, but I will vote for bernie sanders in the primaries. Not that it matters. I'm tired of dishonest politics and he is the most honest one in the race

meh well you certainly won't see anything change for the better with Hillary it will just be more of the same race to the bottom and lies. smh She should be indicted IMO, not running for president.

 

[turok]

meh well you certainly won't see anything change for the better with Hillary it will just be more of the same race to the bottom and lies. smh She should be indicted IMO, not running for president.

Uhh...yanno that those candidates elected to Congress are JUST as important as whom the POTUS is?


Until US citizens can register to and vote online, there will be too many slackers and struggling working stiffs who can't or won't do it the "old-fashioned way" in person and/or by snail-mail. There is an entire generation who will soon be or are of voting age who are ripe for the plucking if the Democratic candidates & Sanders can grow a larger and larger following using the ether and social media.

TV campaigning is mostly for aging luddite rightwingers who won't change their vote anyway, since they mainly watch Tox Spews, who will tell them which candidate to vote for in the RNC primaries.

 

[Monster]

Change won't happen until money is out of politics and even a poor man/woman can become president. Until then, I'll vote for candidates that more closely relate to my ideals. Hillary isn't perfect, but republicans make it hard for me to support them. Rand paul sold out and turned into a republican. He was much better as a libertarian.

 

[turok]

N Gregory Mankiw, who was the Shrub administration's top economic advisor, was such a ball-less dick, that I never forgot about him, besides VP Cheney and the other top fuckwads like Condomsleasa Vice, Rumspewed, Rover, and Wolfoshits.

When the US lost millions of manufacturing jobs during his first term, Mankiw recommended reclassifying fast food and food-service jobs as being in the higher-paid manufacturing sector.

He also wrote:

"When a good or service is produced at lower cost in another country, it makes sense to import it rather than to produce it domestically. This allows the United States to devote its resources to more productive purposes"

Mmmhmm....like blowing it on unwinnable wars...ya douchecanoe!!

Mankiw also told angry white-collar professionals who were in the tech, medical, and legal fields, who were losing their jobs to outsourcing that they would need to become "idea and conceptual consultants"..WTF?!?

Anyway, I decided to see what he was up to nowadays, and learned that he teaches Econ @ Harvard, and has a blog. Sure enough, he posted about the TPP and how wonderful it would be for...the top '01%

"The starting point of TPP is the contrast between U.S. tariffs and those of our partner countries. Our trade-weighted average applied tariff rate is 1.4 percent and 70 percent of imports already enter our economy duty free"

Any wonder why the US has had loong had a HUGE trade imbalance?

Free Markets...aahaha..what a fucking joke.

...on US.


"They find that by 2025, TPP would raise U.S. incomes by 0.4 percent per year, the equivalent of $77 billion in 2007 dollars, although the actual estimate could vary somewhat depending on the details of the agreement and alternative modelling assumptions"

Wow...a WHOLE 0.4%...and only a decade from now!!

I can hardly wait for that windfall!!

 

[zyxt9]

there was an article detailing how much each of the Dems who "switched" to allow the fast track to proceed got from lobbyists. it wasn't even a big story! they were just like "oh yeah, here's how much it costs to bribe a US Senator."

I don't know if it's a good thing, but at least it's more costly to bribe a Democrat than a Republican. That's something, right?

Absolutely...but now that Reps know how much they could have gotten, their votes will now be costing more. Lord knows thise greedy fucks won't stand idle making less than they should, right?

 

[tigermud]

Change won't happen until money is out of politics and even a poor man/woman can become president. Until then, I'll vote for candidates that more closely relate to my ideals. Hillary isn't perfect, but republicans make it hard for me to support them. Rand paul sold out and turned into a republican. He was much better as a libertarian.

Paul doesn't stand a chance on a libertarian ticket, I think he just isn't as dumb as he looks. I still don't really consider him a full fledged republican i'd say the same, he's not perfect but IMO still better than any of those corp multinational TPP supporting sell outs.

 

[tigermud]

Republican sellouts

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...lassified-and-made-public-once-its-agreed-to/

 

[zyxt9]

they're all sell outs. fast tracking a controversial and secretive trade agreement should not be considered acceptable by any American. all of these secret deals are a problem. we put these people in office to vote for us and be our voice. how can we have a voice when we know very little about it? and based on everything mentioned to date, pretty much every American is shouting to vote NO! while the politicians are voting YES!

 

[tigermud]

they're all sell outs. fast tracking a controversial and secretive trade agreement should not be considered acceptable by any American. all of these secret deals are a problem. we put these people in office to vote for us and be our voice. how can we have a voice when we know very little about it? and based on everything mentioned to date, pretty much every American is shouting to vote NO! while the politicians are voting YES!

I heard it expressed on a show I will try not to mention here anymore cuz it wigs out the admin all the time that the reason this occurs, "they vote yes" even if the public is screaming no is because most of them have dirt they don't want exposed and the globalist are able to intimidate them into doing what they want. It might be the only thing that makes sense. Prolly just crazy conspiracy stuff though ;-) Either that or just greedy sell outs getting kickbacks in exchange for gutting america.

I guess what we need then are people that don't have much dirt on them in congress, perhaps.. .idk peoples, I fear it's pretty much all but over... The sun is setting.

 

[tigermud]

And yes correct the democrats might be even worse. At the least the Republicans tell you up front they are going to screw you. Dems well, they act like they care, but they really don't. They are on board as long as they agree to provide assistance to displayed workers.

With previous trade bills those programs didn't apply to white collar jobs only blue collar, I don't know if this one will or not but yippy lifetime government assistance the new american dream!. Sold up and down the river, packed up and shipped out! Yippy ki eh MF'ers so saith the congress.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/11/house-clears-first-trade-bill-setting-stage-friday/

 

[zyxt9]

Things like this are how revolutionaries garner support and topple governments.