The Trump/Russia allegations

[Gulo Blue]

I don't think I even need to post a link. You all know what I'm referring to. Seems like BS to me. I'm not buying the idea that 5 or 8 years ago, anybody in Russia foresaw that Trump could have a shot at the Presidency.

 

[Michchamp]

Yeah, commenting on this stuff is premature, especially with so many other actually concerning things going on, along with his cabinet hearings.

 

[Monster]

Buzzfeed and CNN should be ashamed of themselves. Running with a story like this without credible evidence is insane. I don't know if it's true or not, but they look really bad right now. Well, I take that back. Buzzfeed has looked bad for a long time and CNN has been falling down a bottomless pit for years. They just look worse.

I do find it ironic that Trump is complaining about this. He was one of the original birthers. His supporters were the ones who spread stories about Obama being gay, Michelle being a tranny, and Hillary employing secret Muslim Brotherhood operatives. I guess you get what you give?

 

[Michchamp]

Buzzfeed and CNN should be ashamed of themselves. Running with a story like this without credible evidence is insane. I don't know if it's true or not, but they look really bad right now. Well, I take that back. Buzzfeed has looked bad for a long time and CNN has been falling down a bottomless pit for years. They just look worse.

I do find it ironic that Trump is complaining about this. He was one of the original birthers. His supporters were the ones who spread stories about Obama being gay, Michelle being a tranny, and Hillary employing secret Muslim Brotherhood operatives. I guess you get what you give?

Trump loves this kinda thing, though. He's good at it. He can play games like this better than anyone. on the other hand he doesn't do so well with well-thought-out or researched, factual, discussions that don't allow a lot of name calling, or don't have an audience present.

I agree with you about buzzfeed and CNN. awful.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I remember respecting CNN, with the James Earl Jones "This is CNN".

 

[Spartanmack]

Buzzfeed and CNN should be ashamed of themselves. Running with a story like this without credible evidence is insane. I don't know if it's true or not, but they look really bad right now. Well, I take that back. Buzzfeed has looked bad for a long time and CNN has been falling down a bottomless pit for years. They just look worse.

I do find it ironic that Trump is complaining about this. He was one of the original birthers. His supporters were the ones who spread stories about Obama being gay, Michelle being a tranny, and Hillary employing secret Muslim Brotherhood operatives. I guess you get what you give?

wait, are you saying Michelle's not a tranny?

 

[tinselwolverine]

wait, are you saying Michelle's not a tranny?

I never heard anything like that; nor about Obama being gay or Hillary being involved with a Muslim brotherhood.

I guess I don't hang out with enough Trump supporters.

 

[Monster]

I never heard anything like that; nor about Obama being gay or Hillary being involved with a Muslim brotherhood.

I guess I don't hang out with enough Trump supporters.

Seriously?

http://www.infowars.com/is-michelle-obama-transgender-2/

Alex Jones thinks Obama had Joan Rivers killed because she joked about Michelle being a tranny. Infowars wasn't the only "news" org that made the claim about Michelle, either. Also, a thing went around throughout right wing news orgs about Obamas college friend who claimed that he and "Barry" were lovers. It had no credibility, but they reported it anyway. As for Hillary, even fox news has reported that her staff are members of the Muslim Brotherhood, including Anthony Weiner's wife, huma Abiden...however her name is spelled. I'm sure I butchered it.

 

[tinselwolverine]

Seriously?

http://www.infowars.com/is-michelle-obama-transgender-2/

Alex Jones thinks Obama had Joan Rivers killed because she joked about Michelle being a tranny. Infowars wasn't the only "news" org that made the claim about Michelle, either. Also, a thing went around throughout right wing news orgs about Obamas college friend who claimed that he and "Barry" were lovers. It had no credibility, but they reported it anyway. As for Hillary, even fox news has reported that her staff are members of the Muslim Brotherhood, including Anthony Weiner's wife, huma Abiden...however her name is spelled. I'm sure I butchered it.

I figured Huma Abadin was probably Muslim...aside from that it's all news to me.

Never heard that Obama was gay, never heard that Michelle Obama was a tranny.

 

[Michchamp]

I figured Huma Abadin was probably Muslim...aside from that it's all news to me.

Never heard that Obama was gay, never heard that Michelle Obama was a tranny.

sounds like you need to get out more! Open your mind. Quit getting all your news from the lib media. hurr.

 

[Gulo Blue]

I feel like this guy would fit in just fine with our media and political landscape these day. He was just ahead of his time.

 

[Gulo Blue]

They have a name to attribute the report to:

http://thehill.com/policy/national-...ex-spy-behind-trump-dossier-identified-report

Steele is now a director at a private security and investigations firm in London, according to the Journal.

Steele, 52, is one of two directors at Orbis Business Intelligence Ltd. The dossier's creator has been repeatedly described in reports as having a good reputation in intelligence circles.
Orbis was formed in 2009 by former British intelligence professionals, according to the firm’s website. The company mounts “intelligence-gathering operations” and conducts “complex, often cross-border investigations."

 

[Gulo Blue]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-mi6-spook-who-compiled-9606509

Former British spy Christopher Steele is understood to have left for an unknown location over fears of a backlash from Moscow.

Sources reportedly say the 52-year-old is “terrified for his safety”.

Last night senior British security sources revealed emergency measures were being taken to make the MI6 veteran safe.

Any chance the reports are false, but Russia played this British guy as part of a scheme to have the ability to discredit Trump if he was elected?

 

[Monster]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-mi6-spook-who-compiled-9606509



Any chance the reports are false, but Russia played this British guy as part of a scheme to have the ability to discredit Trump if he was elected?

To be honest, this was my first thought. Russia hacks DNC, kills Clinton's hopes, casts doubt on our free election process, and then puts out fake reports to make the elected president look like he may be a crook and an immoral human being. As much as I don't like the guy, if any of these allegations are true, he'll have a hard time avoiding prison. Russia thrives on doubt and instability.

 

[Michchamp]

ugh... not ready for 4 years of this crap.

they should just impeach him already and get it over with.

he's still refusing to comply with the conflict of interest rules, right? I haven't seen him announce he's selling all his assets and putting them in a blind trust. he keeps annoucing half-ass measures that dont meet the letter of the law.

 

[sggatecl]

I feel like this guy would fit in just fine with our media and political landscape these day. He was just ahead of his time.

Oh man. That takes me back.

 

[Spartanmack]

i think there's a big difference between interfering in a campaign and tampering with an election. There's no evidence to suggest the Russians actually tampered with any votes. And to suggest that it's the source and not the actual facts revealed that we should be more concerned about is nonsense. I'm not saying the Russians hacking the DNC isn't a problem, it clearly is. But to suggest this revelation of the truth invalidates the results of a free and fair election is ridiculous.

 

[lostleader]

I never heard anything like that; nor about Obama being gay or Hillary being involved with a Muslim brotherhood.

I guess I don't hang out with enough Trump supporters.

Don't feel bad Tinsel, 90% of the people I talk to are Trump supporters, and I never heard this. However, I don't have a large circle.

 

[Spartanmack]

Seriously?

http://www.infowars.com/is-michelle-obama-transgender-2/

Alex Jones thinks Obama had Joan Rivers killed because she joked about Michelle being a tranny. Infowars wasn't the only "news" org that made the claim about Michelle, either. Also, a thing went around throughout right wing news orgs about Obamas college friend who claimed that he and "Barry" were lovers. It had no credibility, but they reported it anyway. As for Hillary, even fox news has reported that her staff are members of the Muslim Brotherhood, including Anthony Weiner's wife, huma Abiden...however her name is spelled. I'm sure I butchered it.

The bit about Huma isn't a total stretch. I don't recall ever hearing anyone say she was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, but I do recall people pointing out her ties to people in the MB. Her mother is editor in chief of a London based Sharia law journal and Huma is listed as an associate editor - she wrote for the journal while working as an intern in the Clinton White House in the 90s. Her mom is also on the board of the International Islamic Council for Da'wa and Relief - an organization whose chairman is the the leader of the MB. But Media Matters says there is no evidence that she has ties to the MB, so she must not. I don't see why this is such a huge surprise or all that controversial - didn't the Obama Administration back the MB in Egypt after the Arab Spring? The times seems to think so

I never heard the rumor that Barack was gay or that he dabbled a bit in college, but I have heard a rumor that Hillary plays for the other team. I don't care if it's true, I just thought I'd add a little fuel to the fire.

 

[Spartanmack]

I never heard anything like that; nor about Obama being gay or Hillary being involved with a Muslim brotherhood.

I guess I don't hang out with enough Trump supporters.

I never heard it either - i was just having fun with it.