Timmy Kirkjan (sp)

[mjsb2]

Is it that ridiculous to believe that some people are mentally and emotionally better equipped to handle stressful situations? I understand it may not be possible to mathematically prove it based on the standards you're looking for, and I understand taking out as many outside variables as possible when comparing players, but doing those things and acknowledging that some human beings handle stress differently aren't mutually exclusive.

But anyway, you keep wanting to spread this out over a career to find true talent. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about who was the most valuable player during a one year snapshot in time. Whether something was a fluke, not repeatable, whatever...doesn't matter. Who added more value? And as you agreed, performing well under high pressure games adds value. Sure, it would take a heck of a lot of work to 100% fairly judge that, but I feel very confident in saying that nearly every August and September game for both Cabrera and Trout had more pressure than their early season games, regardless of the opponent, location, etc. And the wide margin by which Cabrera out performed Trout in those games gives him a feather in his cap.

If you want to place greater emphasis on the situation, that's fine, I don't.

Cabrera did perform at Ruthian levels during high leverage situations this year, which obviously adds more value than low level situations, if you want to give him bonus points for that, that's at least reasonable.

I just can't buy placing greater emphasis on one month of games over another, while ignoring everything about those games other than the dates on which they were played.

For the record, if you judge Cabrera by looking at situational hitting, he actually looks worse, and adds less value, than if you ignore situational hitting, due to the large number of DPs he hit into.

 

[deathroh]

For the record, if you judge Cabrera by looking at situational hitting, he actually looks worse, and adds less value, than if you ignore situational hitting, due to the large number of DPs he hit into.

Well then clearly in this MVP discussion situational hitting shouldn't be considered.

 

[mjsb2]

Well then clearly in this MVP discussion situational hitting shouldn't be considered.

lol

I don't think Cabrera has anything to worry about really.

I'd be surprised if he doesn't win it.

 

[manchild98]

lol

I don't think Cabrera has anything to worry about really.

I'd be surprised if he doesn't win it.

I think if he wins it will be a squeaker. But I think he's actually going to get screwed. I don't know who all votes, but I think it is going to come down to the sabermetrics crowd vs. the old school crowd...and the sabermetrics crowd has something to prove. It's just going to depend on which side has the majority.