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Trump dodged taxes while inheriting the equivalent of $413 M in today's dollars

I've been say for year the Democrats need to stoop as low as the republicans to win and keep power. They just never seem to learn.

yeah, but when the Republicans go low, the Democrats go high - dirty partisan politics are beneath the party of Spartacus!
 
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well, you're right, but I was talking about income.

And, now, I don't know about you, but when I report dividend income, capital gains, etc. it tells me to attach schedues that detail the sources of this income or substantiate the transactions.

So... unless Trump has assets not generating any income, in theory, they'd be part of his returns.

and if not... he should have been audited, heavily.

That's not correct for interest and dividends - you get a 1099-int or a 1099-div (most likely a consolidated 1099 if it's all held at a single institution) for those types of income. It only shows your income, not the source, let alone the value.

Capital gains are different, I've never had a taxable gain on real estate, but for investments like equity, bonds, etc, you report the source, sales price and cost and it's very difficult to fudge those numbers, esp since your broker has all those records - they may even report them and if not, they're easily accessible.

That's not really the case with real estate capital gains - there's no third party to report or check prices against. There's no public market to easily compare valuations to. I think, but am not certain, you report the cost net of depreciation you've deducted, any excess would be the reported gain. Here the IRS has to rely on the taxable entity's books and records and accounting practices - there's plenty of room to fudge and obviously plenty of incentive to fudge the cost numbers as high as you can.

Rich people shouldn't get a pass just because you think taxes are bad because you want OTHER people to pay for the roads you drive on, hospitals you can visit in emergencies, police protection, fire protections, airports, courts, etc. etc.

the rest of this post is just more of your moronic tactics of twisting people's words so you can attempt to falsely claim the moral high ground and discredit other peoples' opinions without any facts. I've never said anything like this and you know it. But you resort to this time and again because you're a moron and an asshole.
 
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It?s so true .. Fox and (The Lying Sack of Shit) Trump fucking this country one conservative at a time lol.. Holy brainwashed you guys are. Trump could blow a horse in time square and Righty?s would still call him Orange Jesus. His presidency will go down in history as the most corrupt of all time when it is over. Democrats will have to fix his mess just like the last time probably. History repeats itself. Large tax breaks for the top that never trickle down. Same old shit just a different year.

Bob let me know when we have another option that puts American and American jobs first that isn't an orange asshole and I'll support that person. Until then Trump 2020! cuz I ain't seen one yet.
 
Bob let me know when we have another option that puts American and American jobs first that isn't an orange asshole and I'll support that person. Until then Trump 2020! cuz I ain't seen one yet.

Oh you mean like Obama did with all th obstruction from the GOP. This leval of job growth was reached 4 times under Obama so just stick it with the narrative this tax cuts will work. They sure do work for some in this country and it?s not me. My health insurance is going way up to unaffordable levals, and don?t get me started on prescription cost in America. Obama say a 4.6 increase and a 5.2 once and his overall 3.9 is only what off of the current 4.1 Trump claims is amazing. You know it is amazing what Obama do in fact do with all the obstruction he received from the Republicans. A larger part of the job growth streak came under Obama.
Then narrative that the economy was bad under Obama?s second term is just false. I can?t wait until the bill comes due with deficit with these tax breaks. The GOP are such hypocrites taunting these tax breaks for corporations and the the top 1% , and the Claiming th Deficits do not mean anything now that they are in power. Shameful politics.


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-checking-donald-trumps-points-about-economy/
 
yeah, but when the Republicans go low, the Democrats go high - dirty partisan politics are beneath the party of Spartacus!

Yeah we all know who plays this game the best and sadly it is not the party that tries to help ordinary folks. Because we sure know the ultra far right Gop could care less about people .
 
Yeah we all know who plays this game the best and sadly it is not the party that tries to help ordinary folks. Because we sure know the ultra far right Gop could care less about people .

LOL, you think the Dems try to help ordinary folks? That's a good one! Thanks for the laugh bob.
 
yeah, but when the Republicans go low, the Democrats go high - dirty partisan politics are beneath the party of Spartacus!

I'd like to make it clear, even if you weren't responding to me, when I say that the GOP is better at politics that doesn't mean I think they're dirty and the Dems are playing it clean. Far from it. I just think the GOP makes their shots count where as when the Dems 'play dirty' it usually comes off as petty and inconsequential to the GOP.
 
this is definitely not true. if he's spending more money on travel/lodging than past president's, I have an issue with that. if he's charging the gov't more than other patrons, I have an issue with that, too (and I mean for like services - of course there are extra costs for security and staff that normal people don't travel with). I'll pay closer attention to it when somebody shows me how much more it costs than prior presidents, but in the scheme of things, how our gov't wastes money, it's a rounding error.

If you don't care where the money goes, I suppose it would make sense that you don't care where he stays. It's subjective to what bothers you really. I honestly have no idea what/if the cost difference between staying at Maralago and Camp David is.

But you're right, I don't recall the people who bitch weekly about Trump using his own properties for travel complaining once, let alone weekly about the Obama's exhorbitant vacation costs (Michelle's European vacations with friends, the annual 3 week Hawaii Christmas vacations, etc, etc).

You don't recall them bitching because they didn't.
 
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There was this CNN report that Trump was on pace to exceed Obama's spending on travel and what not over eight (8) years total in year one (1) of his presidency.

The report is from 2017, but given Trump's reputation for grandiose spending and gaudy displays of wealth, I can't imagine he slowed the trips to Mar-a-Lago and Trump Tower down.

Also, as someone who came of age politically in the 90's and grew up with conservative parents during that time, the idea that complaints about Trump's excessive spending, vacations and travel are hypocritical seems to fly in the face of "who started it."

From 1993-2000, government spending and debt was "out of control" even though astonishingly debt actually declined for a year or two in there. then from 2001-2008, the same people who complained about debt under Bill Clinton, like Bill Kristol, Krauthammer, Grover Norquist, etc. and every Republitard in congress were pretty much okay with the massive increase in spending & tax cuts under Bush.

Then from 2009-2016 debt and spending were bad again...

Now, debt and spending are once again okay, and even going further into debt by cutting taxes and increasing our defense budget EVEN MORE is good, because we had too much money and not enough debt before. I guess?
 
There was this CNN report that Trump was on pace to exceed Obama's spending on travel and what not over eight (8) years total in year one (1) of his presidency.


There may have been people in the White House encouraging him to take as many breaks as possible.
 
I'd like to make it clear, even if you weren't responding to me, when I say that the GOP is better at politics that doesn't mean I think they're dirty and the Dems are playing it clean. Far from it. I just think the GOP makes their shots count where as when the Dems 'play dirty' it usually comes off as petty and inconsequential to the GOP.

No need - I wasn't referring to your post. I only quoted bob's post because I was responding directly to him. I have no issue with what you said - I don't agree completely but there's nothing objectionable or hypocritical in it.
 
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There was this CNN report that Trump was on pace to exceed Obama's spending on travel and what not over eight (8) years total in year one (1) of his presidency.

The report is from 2017, but given Trump's reputation for grandiose spending and gaudy displays of wealth, I can't imagine he slowed the trips to Mar-a-Lago and Trump Tower down.

Also, as someone who came of age politically in the 90's and grew up with conservative parents during that time, the idea that complaints about Trump's excessive spending, vacations and travel are hypocritical seems to fly in the face of "who started it."

From 1993-2000, government spending and debt was "out of control" even though astonishingly debt actually declined for a year or two in there. then from 2001-2008, the same people who complained about debt under Bill Clinton, like Bill Kristol, Krauthammer, Grover Norquist, etc. and every Republitard in congress were pretty much okay with the massive increase in spending & tax cuts under Bush.

Then from 2009-2016 debt and spending were bad again...

Now, debt and spending are once again okay, and even going further into debt by cutting taxes and increasing our defense budget EVEN MORE is good, because we had too much money and not enough debt before. I guess?

calling bullshit on the CNN report that says Obama's travel cost $95mm over 8 years. The number I read yesterday pegged just the Obama Christmas in Hawaii for 8 years at $35mm+. It doesn't even get mentioned in the CNN report that talks about Aspen and annual Martha's Vineyard trips. No way something that was over 1/3 of their spending doesn't get mentioned. I'm guessing that $95mm number is low or at a minimum, not comparable to the numbers they're using for Trump's travel because they don't include different types of expenses in Obama's number that are in Trump's or something like that.
 
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calling bullshit on the CNN report that says Obama's travel cost $95mm over 8 years. The number I read yesterday pegged just the Obama Christmas in Hawaii for 8 years at $35mm+. It doesn't even get mentioned in the CNN report that talks about Aspen and annual Martha's Vineyard trips. No way something that was over 1/3 of their spending doesn't get mentioned. I'm guessing that $95mm number is low or at a minimum, not comparable to the numbers they're using for Trump's travel because they don't include different types of expenses in Obama's number that are in Trump's or something like that.

well, write their ombudsman a letter and tell them to retract it, retard.
 
I'll forever be mixed on Obamacare. I couldn't get health insurance before it and I could barely afford it once I could.


My plan for next year has been completely eliminated with no replacement available. I need to find new doctors or a new plan, and there's no new plan available for my system. They say there will be a plan with my health system by November from some company I've never heard of. No idea what it's going to cost. That's on top of price hikes and other nonsense over the last couple years. insurance commissioner for the state actually had to get involved to fix things at one point.
 
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