VMart signs a new 4 year deal

[firehim]

1983 Wade Boggs Age 25 27 errors .948 Fielding percentage, 4 Gold Gloves
1974 Mike Schmidt Age 24 26 errors .954 fielding percentage 16 gold gloves
2014 Nick Castellanos Age 22 15 errors .950 Fielding percentage

I Don't think that 15 errors is a bad job for a rookie 3rd basemen that has been changing positions his whole minor league career.

 

[swami45]

Pretty sure rated as the worst defensive player in baseball regardless of position. Fielding pct and errors doesnt mean much when you dont get to anything.

I Don't think that 15 errors is a bad job for a rookie 3rd basemen that has been changing positions his whole minor league career.

 

[firehim]

Third base isn't Short Stop or second base. You don't have to Get to the ball, it gets to you.

 

[Thumb]

You aren't seriously using fielding percentage and errors as your gauge are you?

Try to understand that sometimes errors occur when a player gets to a ball but can't make the play, while the same ball might go right past another 3B.

Nick has terrible hands, and stone feet. And I don't think you can keep using the "positional transition" excuse considering he's still played more in 3B than anywhere else.

 

[Thumb]

Third base isn't Short Stop or second base. You don't have to Get to the ball, it gets to you.

No.

Just no.

 

[firehim]

You aren't seriously using fielding percentage and errors as your gauge are you?

Try to understand that sometimes errors occur when a player gets to a ball but can't make the play, while the same ball might go right past another 3B.

Nick has terrible hands, and stone feet. And I don't think you can keep using the "positional transition" excuse considering he's still played more in 3B than anywhere else.

Go and get your stat of choice for the three that I listed. Don't just spout off with out providing any substance to the conversation. If you like a stat better than Errors and FP post it. I made my point using comparative statistics, you bitched about it.

 

[Mitchrapp]

The ones who rank players use more than fielding % and he came out last.

How about range as a factor? Every ball player has a range factor and his is stupidly low..

Go here, he's 24 of 24 of qualified 3B..

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.as...4&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

 

[swami45]

Advanced metrics weren't kept in Boggs and Scmidts era. All I will tell you is -30 defensive runs saved. Worst in baseball, next lowest at 3rd was chisenhall at -14.

 

[Mitchrapp]

UZR/150 -19.1. That's really really really bad.

 

[kingofdetroit57]

http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/sto...-gold-glove-hunter-altuve-castellanos/slide/4

UZR/150: minus-19.1

Measured by DRS (he finished at minus-30), Castellanos was not only the worst defensive third baseman, too, but he was the worst everyday defender at any position. Only Rays shortstop Yunel Escobar (minus-24) and Astros center fielder Dexter Fowler (minus-20) were even relatively close to Detroit’s rookie third baseman in DRS.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Advanced metrics weren't kept in Boggs and Scmidts era. All I will tell you is -30 defensive runs saved. Worst in baseball, next lowest at 3rd was chisenhall at -14.

Just awful. Double the next nearest guy..

 

[kingofdetroit57]

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/53268/ranking-each-teams-worst-position-in-2014

1. Detroit Tigers 3B: 3.7 wins below average

This might surprise you since Nick Castellanos had a solid rookie season at the plate, hitting .259 with 46 extra-base hits. But solid isn't the same as good, as the Tigers ranked 18th in the majors in wOBA at third base. But the biggest liability here was Castellanos' defense: His -30 defensive runs saved ranked worst in the majors -- at any position.

Fix for 2015: It's still Castellanos' job. The Tigers have to hope for improvement in all areas.

 

[stonecold2136]

Gotta love V-Mart! He is a leader in the clubhouse. Mr I loves him. Glad we got him back

 

[stonecold2136]

I wish they woulda left Nick in the outfield.

 

[swami45]

I wish they woulda left Nick in the outfield.

He probably wouldn't have lasted long there either. Based on his footwork he had 1B/DH written all over him

 

[Thumb]

He probably wouldn't have lasted long there either. Based on his footwork he had 1B/DH written all over him

.700 OPS and 11 HR is not going to cut it for 1B/DH though.

If he can develop a little more power, a solid .750 - .780 OPS and 15-20 HR will work as a RF though. You can hide bad defense a little better in the COF than on 3B.

 

[motownwebguy]

Nick is only 22 years old. Once he realizes that pulling the ball more to LF will make him a complete and better hitter, he will be annually at 20 homers.

He's not a 1B. He can't scoop the ball well at all. He's a bit clumsy / awkward at 3B with his footings and that would transfer over to the other corner of the infield.

LF or DH is his 'safe-zone' future. :nod:

 

[Mitchrapp]

Nick is only 22 years old. Once he realizes that pulling the ball more to LF will make him a complete and better hitter, he will be annually at 20 homers.

He's not a 1B. He can't scoop the ball well at all. He's a bit clumsy / awkward at 3B with his footings and that would transfer over to the other corner of the infield.

LF or DH is his 'safe-zone' future. :nod:

That might be the first time I've heard "pulling the ball more to LF.." and "complete and better hitter.." in the same sentence.

 

[Thumb]

Nick is only 22 years old. Once he realizes that pulling the ball more to LF will make him a complete and better hitter, he will be annually at 20 homers.

He's not a 1B. He can't scoop the ball well at all. He's a bit clumsy / awkward at 3B with his footings and that would transfer over to the other corner of the infield.

LF or DH is his 'safe-zone' future. :nod:

Personally, I would put him in RF, the majority of hitters are right-handed so more balls go to left and left center. When we play a lefty heavy lineup, I'd sit him.

 

[kalinecountry]

I've thought long and hard about Nick C. and despite his age, no matter what position he plays, imo, he will be a liabilty.

he is best used in a trade. sorry. I know, we would need a 3rd baseman.