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With a gun to my head I'd take Trump over Cruz

I think I'd agree on the premise that none of Trump's major ideas (Giant walls, 'shutting down the internet, etc) would come to fruition. Cruz's ideology is shared by some (many?) congressman and could really do some damage. Cruz seems terrifying, Trump seems..disruptive?
 
Cruz looks crazy enough to be a Button Pusher.. Trump is so bamboozling American with this run its not even funny. I bet he laughs so hard in the mirror in the morning just laughing at how dumb most of America is believing the drivel coming out of his mouth.

Cruz just looks batshit crazy to me.. He scares me a lot..
 
Cruz looks crazy enough to be a Button Pusher.. Trump is so bamboozling American with this run its not even funny. I bet he laughs so hard in the mirror in the morning just laughing at how dumb most of America is believing the drivel coming out of his mouth.

Cruz just looks batshit crazy to me.. He scares me a lot..

I'm still not totally convinced that Trump isn't just pulling a huge gag on the American public with his campaign.
 
I think once in office, Trump would be a disaster... he is an ego-centric motormouth, and a brand, not a governor or even a politician.

Ted Cruz says a lot of dumb stuff, and will probably say a lot of awful stuff, but I think his presidency would be a more sober, less militaristic version of the Bush years.
 
I think once in office, Trump would be a disaster... he is an ego-centric motormouth, and a brand, not a governor or even a politician.

Ted Cruz says a lot of dumb stuff, and will probably say a lot of awful stuff, but I think his presidency would be a more sober, less militaristic version of the Bush years.

???

les militaristic? the guy who brags about making the desert glow? blow up the Iran nuclear deal?

I could see him vetoing every bill unless it strips planned parenthood of it's funding and shuts down the EPA and NASA
 
I think Trump is just playing it up and doesn't fully believe half the shit he spouts whereas I think Cruz is 100% honest in his views. That alone is why I'd side with Trump. There's the hope that Trump might tone it down...Cruz is a guaranteed one-way trip to the land of crazy.
 
Can you imagine people reading history books about President Trump in 100 years?
 
I think Trump is just playing it up and doesn't fully believe half the shit he spouts whereas I think Cruz is 100% honest in his views. That alone is why I'd side with Trump. There's the hope that Trump might tone it down...Cruz is a guaranteed one-way trip to the land of crazy.

Oh I agree Trump is just playing it up. I think Ned Cruz is as well.

but I think the difference is what happens once they get to office; Cruz is at least a politician, a senator no less, and you can expect him to put a team in place that at least maintains some standards. shitty standards for sure, but still.

Trump? His White House will be run by some real nutjobs, and special interests will eat them alive. Trump is incapable of actually running anything. he's succeeded so far by directly appealing to the disgruntled segment of the population that seeks it's answers in xenophobia and racism. he has no substance whatsoever to back it up. and even in running businesses and developing real estate he was largely a failure, and he operates mostly by licensing his name and likeness to projects. there are apparently a lot of people who want to wear trump-branded clothing and live in Trump Towers. I don't personally understand it.

but anyways, where would this lead were he to be elected? He has no real contacts in Washington, mo one to tap to run offices except his bunch of bizarre staffers, many of whom were rejects from more professional campaigns.
 
Oh I agree Trump is just playing it up. I think Ned Cruz is as well.

but I think the difference is what happens once they get to office; Cruz is at least a politician, a senator no less, and you can expect him to put a team in place that at least maintains some standards. shitty standards for sure, but still.

Trump? His White House will be run by some real nutjobs, and special interests will eat them alive. Trump is incapable of actually running anything. he's succeeded so far by directly appealing to the disgruntled segment of the population that seeks it's answers in xenophobia and racism. he has no substance whatsoever to back it up. and even in running businesses and developing real estate he was largely a failure, and he operates mostly by licensing his name and likeness to projects. there are apparently a lot of people who want to wear trump-branded clothing and live in Trump Towers. I don't personally understand it.

but anyways, where would this lead were he to be elected? He has no real contacts in Washington, mo one to tap to run offices except his bunch of bizarre staffers, many of whom were rejects from more professional campaigns.

The fact that Cruz is a politician and has those connections worries me.

I guess I just see Trump as being ineffective as President, which I find preferable to someone who has the connections to actually push a personal agenda in Washington like Cruz might.

Honestly, I don't care all that much about the two, I just don't want to see the next president drag us into some expensive and unnecessary conflict or war.
 
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Trump? His White House will be run by some real nutjobs, and special interests will eat them alive.

I am actually curious - why do you think special interests will eat them alive?

Actually, I'm not sure why you libtards aren't all over wanting his nomination. He is more liberal on a bunch of issues than most Republicans. Plus he won't cow tow to Big Oil or Wall Street - he, so far, isn't getting any money from either of them.

He is in favor of national health care (maybe not Obamacare, but certainly national health care - single payer), and actually supported the Clinton's at one time. I doubt he is going to win anything, but building a wall, and deporting 11 Million people seems like small potatoe issues compared to the other crap he might do. Him winning the nomination will likely hand the presidency to whatever libtard actually wins the democratic nomination. Seems like a win-win for you guys.
 
I am actually curious - why do you think special interests will eat them alive?
They seem a lot less sophisticated than the usual, sleazy, cutthroat types that make up serious political campaigns in this country, but that's just my general opinion. the real operators signed on to back JEB!, Rubio, Cruz, or to a lesser extent some of the other passengers in the Clown Car. Trump's campaign has been seen as a joke, and accordingly, reputation conscious operators and staffers of DC have largely avoided it. note: I am aware I am making a lot of assumptions here.

once in office, these people will be outwitted by DC stalwarts and bullied into all sorts of things, if not completely ignorant of them.

this is all inline with Trump's work ethic, or lack thereof. he seems uninterested in doing much more than talking (mostly about himself). he's displayed a lack of understanding and grasp of events and topics that makes Bush '00 seem well informed by comparison. I don't expect that will change much if he gets elected.

Actually, I'm not sure why you libtards aren't all over wanting his nomination. He is more liberal on a bunch of issues than most Republicans. Plus he won't cow tow to Big Oil or Wall Street - he, so far, isn't getting any money from either of them.

He is in favor of national health care (maybe not Obamacare, but certainly national health care - single payer), and actually supported the Clinton's at one time. I doubt he is going to win anything, but building a wall, and deporting 11 Million people seems like small potatoe issues compared to the other crap he might do. Him winning the nomination will likely hand the presidency to whatever libtard actually wins the democratic nomination. Seems like a win-win for you guys.

no, no, no, it's Republitard, not libtard. it's clear - or should be to any non-retarded person - on which side of the line the retards have congregated on.

Trump has played the polls well; his complete lack of concern for GOP/Republitard orthodoxy has allowed him to stray from the party line on topics the public prefers to an extent that Cruz, Rubio, JEB!, etc are not willing or able to. so he can claim to support universal healthcare, knowing most voters support it.

but as i said, he's just playing to the polls on all this stuff, and his actual solutions aren't very liberal in the end; we'll apparently get universal healthcare and better jobs if we kick out all the Mexicans and Muslims, and beat the shit out of BLM protestors? And even if you really believe he sincerely plans to deliver on some of his more populist appeals, he's so incompetent and politically experienced, I think there's really a zero percent chance he could deliver once in office.

as far as a Trump nomination delivering the White House to the Democrats... whatever. I think we're looking at a convincing Democratic win in 2016 regardless of who it comes down to from either side.
 
as far as a Trump nomination delivering the White House to the Democrats... whatever. I think we're looking at a convincing Democratic win in 2016 regardless of who it comes down to from either side.

and that is just as scary as having Trump or Cruz in office!

We are fucked either way!
 
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Honestly with Trump I'd be most worried about foreign policy. Less than 6 months in to his first term even our allies will be pointing their ballistic missiles at us. I can see it now, at some state dinner he'll make some comment like he always does, aloof of how far his words will actually go or be scrutinized, something like how he thinks Angela Merkel's a big rug-muncher or something. Then we asked about it he'll smirk and say "You know what I meant", and wave the question off.


Also, thank you for the huge LOL moment. Literally was laughing so hard almost at tears over "cow tow".
 
If Trump was elected, it would be a continual race between the Dems and Reps as to who could initiate a filibuster. They would probably drown him in a sea of stupid bills that they know he will veto, but the sheer volume would prevent him from getting anything accomplished. They would be about one sentence long, written by a computer program designed to just print up something stupid that Trump would be forced to veto. The House and Senate would just be on auto Yea! for supporting them and flood Trump with about 1,000 new bills per second. The White House would be completely white on the inside as well as the outside from the countless reams of paper stacked floor to ceiling, literally burying Trump in paperwork.

Well, that's how I'd deal with him anyway. LOL.

With Cruz, I think they all take turns giving him swirlies. Heck, even the Secret Service will help them out! "POTUS is flushed" would be the most common radio call. That dude is such a wimp he would put the POS in POTUS. To prevent him from initiating Armageddon, they would give him a soccer ball briefcase and tell him "no, it was made in Europe so it is called a football briefcase"

Still...the Dems are putting up the equivalent of a naked midget jello wrestling porno team.

Fuck man, these candidates are so pathetic they make me wish Goodell was running. At least if he got voted in, he could stop screwing up the NFL, and it is pretty hard to screw up the US worse than any of the other candidates, so it would be a win overall.
 
Is there anyone in the US who would actually be a good candidate these days?

I still lean toward writing in Joe Lieberman or someone other than the ones being forced upon The People. I know, I know...the Dems view him like he's Darth Vader...but just like Darth, they should still see the good in him as he still has many Dem leanings and is about as Moderate as a candidate could possibly be.
 
Is there anyone in the US who would actually be a good candidate these days?

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Only this man:

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champ...not for nothing...and even considering the numerous fights we have had on the political boards through the years...and at times I've REALLY disliked you...

but I would seriously write you in as POTUS over any of the clowns we have before us today. I know you would push your socialist agenda and that would irk me no end...but I'd write in Spartanmack as your VP so that in the back of your mind you would know if you went too far with the socialist stuff, some Tea Bagger might put Spartanmack into the presidency...so you'd tone things down just to spite him and make sure he didn't become president.

Champ/Spartanmack 2016...now THAT's a ticket I can get behind.
 
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