Your statement that Travis projects higher as a player is simply not true based on every writer and scout comment I've seen. Everything I've seen on Travis says he'll be an average player at best, and that he'll slot into the Jays system as about their fifth or sixth best prospect. He's an average runner, adequate defender, and he's small, but his bat is good, as are his baseball instincts.
Gose on the other hand already has very good to excellent defensive skills, an excellent arm, and very good speed (all being outliers which you claim don't exist). The knock on him is his bat, which I agree 100% on, but many feel that it will develop more with new hitting coaches. I'd say that he'll probably always be a below average to bad hitter, but if he can get on base a bit more (i.e., lower the K rate, make a bit more contact, take more walks, or just hit more), the rest of his skills should more than make up for his weakness at the plate.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/majors/trade-central-tigers-deal-top-prospect-travis-toronto-gose/
Pat Caputo, who used to do BA's minor league player rankings for many years, said last night on the radio that Travis definitely shouldn't have been our #1 prospect. He said he's probably at least #2 or #3 behind Moya and Hill, in his educated opinion. He also said that he wouldn't have even ranked him in the Top 100 prospects after seeing a lot of him. He was really high on Gose and on the trade. He echoed everything else I've seen by saying Gose is a borderline elite defender, excellent base runner, and very strong thrower. He felt that the 7mo age difference between Gose and Travis amounted to a swap of prospects, and we got the better end of the deal by getting the better athlete who possesses certain excellent skill sets and has MLB experience. He didn't knock Travis, but said he's pretty average all the way around and thought we sold high on him. He also thought the deal made a ton of sense based on our current needs and Travis's path being blocked here in Detroit.
I normally disagree with a lot of what Pat says on sports, but he always seems to know his baseball players and how they project or will perform. That's one area where I definitely trust his opinion.
This was probably the best article (KC Posted it) that I found because it was unbiased.
If you like big trades with flashy names, this isn?t the post for you, because this one is dedicated to the Tigers swapping second base prospect Devon Travis to the Blue Jays for center field kinda prospect Anthony Gose. Neither Travis nor Gose looks likely to turn into any kind of star, but this trade is still interesting ? to me at least ? because both look like potentially useful pieces that help fill a need for their new teams.
We?ll start with Gose, since he?s got league big league experience and big league data. He?s the classic athlete that can?t really hit, and probably didn?t belong in the big leagues in his early-20s. Over parts of three seasons, he?s posted a 75 wRC+, with a high strikeout/low power combination that makes it very difficult for him to ever project as even a decent big league hitter. Even as a 24 year old, a 74% contact rate just won?t cut it for a guy who doesn?t drive the ball with any kind of authority. You can give him some age-related improvement, but odds are Gose is never going to hit enough to be a big league regular.
But in limited time, he looks like he might do the other things well enough to be a pretty useful part-time outfielder. He?s racked up +7 runs of baserunning value in the rough equivalent of one year?s worth of playing time, and all three of UZR, DRS, and the Fan?s Scouting Report have rated him as an above average defensive center fielder. If his speed and defense can be sustained at above average levels ? and given his athleticism, this doesn?t seem like a reach ? Gose could be a solid role player, a +1 to +2 WAR outfielder under team control for several more years at deflated prices.
While he?s basically Torii Hunter?s polar opposite, there?s actually a decent chance that Gose is the better player in 2015, and it wouldn?t be too surprising to me if Gose actually outperformed Hunter going forward. Keep that in mind when someone gives the Tigers former right fielder a pretty nice paycheck in the next couple of weeks.
Of course, one could argue that a team in win-now mode shouldn?t be giving too much playing time to below average players, but teams need depth too, and the Tigers didn?t really have much in the way of outfield depth, nor do they have endless amounts of money that they can throw at every single one of their problems. There?s nothing wrong with having a speed-and-defense outfielder on the roster, and Gose might be a good enough version of that skillset to not be a total embarrassment if forced into everyday duty.
But he didn?t come free. Devon Travis isn?t exactly the sexiest prospect around, but it?s worth noting that the Steamer projections ? based on his minor league performances to date ? kind of love him. Actually, strike the kind of; Travis is one of Steamer?s favorite prospects in all of baseball. Here?s what Cistulli wrote about him in the post highlighting his strong projection:
Just a 13th-round selection in 2012 out of Florida State, Travis has produced markedly above-average batting marks at every level to which he?s been exposed, recording both excellent plate-discipline numbers and also high BABIP figures. The result: a slash line of .323/.388/.487 line in over 1,000 minor-league plate appearances. According to Steamer?s computer math, Travis ? who enters his age-24 season next April ? already profiles as a league-average hitter. That?s valuable for a player who also appears likely to handle second base.
Travis isn?t known for his physical tools, but he?s shown an intriguing combination of high contact skills with some power, which is a pretty rare trait for a middle infielder. And it?s not just the numbers: Baseball America?s Clint Longenecker penned a nice piece on him last year explaining why the results might carry over to the big league level.
If Travis actually is something like a league average hitter and can play average defense at second base, then the Blue Jays are going to be quite happy with this deal. Second base was a massive hole for them last year, and even an average player would be a significant upgrade, especially if he?s as big league ready in 2014 as Steamer thinks he might be.
Of course, Steamer could be wrong. Maybe Travis is more mediocre hitter than average one, in which case he?d look like the +1 to +2 WAR player that Gose also appears to be, making this deal more about two teams trading from depth for things they need more. But while no projection system is perfect, Steamer is a very good forecasting tool, and it is basing its optimism on the success of similar kinds of players. After all, those who don?t think much of Travis? future probably also weren?t big fans of Martin Prado either, and he?s averaged +2.8 WAR per 600 plate appearances over a pretty solid career. Omar Infante fits the mold too.
There are enough examples of guys like Travis who turn into real players that the Blue Jays could actually have made a pretty nice deal here. If the projections on Travis aren?t totally bonkers, six years of an average (or maybe even slightly above average) middle infielder is a nifty return for a speed-and-defense fourth outfielder. Of course, there?s a chance that Travis is more Marcus Semien than Martin Prado, and in a year, maybe we won?t even remember that this trade happened.
But both guys bring enough to the table that this is the kind of small move that could look like an underrated pickup for both sides. I think it probably has a better chance to work out for Toronto long term, but like Jeff noted earlier, the Tigers don?t really care about the long term. They made their 2015 team better than it was. That?s what they?re going to do this winter.